Wall mounting a TV - cable management - conduit - D-Line.......

Looking to wall mount a tv with a wall mounted 3 shelf bracket below it. All nice so far we hope.
Problem is with it being on the wall i'll be looking to keep all the cables tidy. Alas not sure if it's possible since the widest management I have found that can be mounted at right angles is the D-Line 60mm x 30mm
I want it to run 1m horizontally, a right angle turn and then 1m to 1.5m vertically up the wall; the right angle is important.
The items to be connected are a tv, wii, sky+ HD box and a desktop pc with the following cables listed at the end.
Folks must have done this so really looking for advice.
Thanks in advance

1 x ethernet cable - sky
1 x ethernet cable - tv
1 x mains - sky
1 x mains - tv
1 x mains - wii
1 x phone line - sky
1 x scart - wii to tv
1 x scart/hdmi - pc to tv
1 x hdmi - sky to tv
1 x rf cable - wall to tv
2 x sky cables - wall to sky

28 Comments

Original Poster

I've found av4all and this is the kinda cable management i'd be looking to use

i take it its brick and not plasterboard then?

Original Poster

Yes, solid brick wall.
Someone has suggested to me digging a channel and replastering but don't fancy doing that/paying for it

boydent999

Yes, solid brick wall.Someone has suggested to me digging a channel and … Yes, solid brick wall.Someone has suggested to me digging a channel and replastering but don't fancy doing that/paying for it


that is an idea but to much work in my opinion if it were me and i had that many cables i would neatly box them in with mdf or similiar use some 2x1 or 2x2 to make a frame around the cables as tight as you need then cover with mdf this way you can stop the 2x1 or 2x2 at any point or drill a hole through to get a cable out at the exact position you need and can be painted the same colour as your wall or glossed to go with your other wood work

Original Poster

nightstud

that is an idea but to much work in my opinion if it were me and i had … that is an idea but to much work in my opinion if it were me and i had that many cables i would neatly box them in with mdf or similiar use some 2x1 or 2x2 to make a frame around the cables as tight as you need then cover with mdf this way you can stop the 2x1 or 2x2 at any point or drill a hole through to get a cable out at the exact position you need and can be painted the same colour as your wall or glossed to go with your other wood work


That's not a bad idea at all
Drilling isn't an issue since the shelving will be something like this Amazon - 3 shelf system so all the openings for connections will be managed that way. Just a case of getting the cables to it.
Mind, then again I am not convinced the shelf system will cope with that many wires either

Edited by: "boydent999" 22nd May 2011

thats an expensive shelf i take it you holding the sky and wii with that not thought about floating shelves they look good the mdf can go between and the shelves can be put at any height you want?
also will the tv be flat or off the wall type ones you can move around ?

Original Poster

Well this the Wall Mount and the tv is the Sony 40EX503 from the Tesco/John Lewis thread.
So the tv is some 10cm thick and the mount has a tilt to it
Yes the shelving unit is where i am hoping to place the wii and sky box on
In my head it all works well lol but now it's come down to the practicalities it seems like a bespoke option is the only way to manage that many cables. Surely I cannot be the first to have *that* many?

boydent999

Well this the … Well this the [url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.co.uk%2FDesigner-Habitat-Wall-Tilt-Bracket%2Fdp%2FB003U46SWC%2Fref%3Dcm_cr_pr_product_top]Wall Mount[/url] and the tv is the Sony 40EX503 from the Tesco/John Lewis thread.So the tv is some 10cm thick and the mount has a tilt to itYes the shelving unit is where i am hoping to place the wii and sky box onIn my head it all works well lol but now it's come down to the practicalities it seems like a bespoke option is the only way to manage that many cables. Surely I cannot be the first to have *that* many?


i have that exact mount for my tv obviously the way you were originaly setting out to do it is is good just a needs good planning and i suppose there isnt one thick enough for all your cables is there no way of cutting them down like the tv ethernet can that not use a wireless key??
whats the rf cable for if you have sky??

Original Poster

nightstud

i have that exact mount for my tv obviously the way you were originaly … i have that exact mount for my tv obviously the way you were originaly setting out to do it is is good just a needs good planning and i suppose there isnt one thick enough for all your cables is there no way of cutting them down like the tv ethernet can that not use a wireless key??whats the rf cable for if you have sky??


That's comforting that you have that wall mount can't have both made a bad choice.
Yes i understand what you mean about the planning hence the thread, since like i said it all makes sense but now that i counted the cables was wondering, how oO
The cables; well the RF would be for the HD freeview reception and the wireless key i believe is some £60+ for the Sony one and not sure a 3rd party one works.
I might get away with not connecting the pc to the tv but would like it for the football
Edited by: "boydent999" 22nd May 2011

ok so have to have them all then lol
is there no way of having some cables come down from the ceiling ie: ethernet cables and phone line or is that to much up from the router in the floor space and back down?

Original Poster

i have tried to minimise them, honest
TBH i hadn't thought of attacking from above but property is a flat so it'll still be up over and down even if going that way.
BTW, really appreciate the help it's been helpful and i can see that i have thought it out well but there's always room for input so thank you

one thing have you got a sky package? if so why not use sky player through your pc then you can ditch the sky altogether and use it through the pc that an option?

Original Poster

nightstud

one thing have you got a sky package? if so why not use sky player … one thing have you got a sky package? if so why not use sky player through your pc then you can ditch the sky altogether and use it through the pc that an option?


I do love your patience
Oh man, don't talk to me about Sky Player!
EVERYTIME i use my pc i clear my cookies (i know, sad) and everytime i log into Sky Player it says it doesn't recognise me. I check my registered devices and it says, PC - Windows 7 but just doesn't let me use it. I gave up lol

boydent999

I do love your patience :)Oh man, don't talk to me about Sky … I do love your patience :)Oh man, don't talk to me about Sky Player!EVERYTIME i use my pc i clear my cookies (i know, sad) and everytime i log into Sky Player it says it doesn't recognise me. I check my registered devices and it says, PC - Windows 7 but just doesn't let me use it. I gave up lol


well looks like your back to square one then maybe have to use twice as many of the d-lines or if you ok with woodwork as i am i would make the whole thing myself including the shelves with a bit of planning can look better than anything you buy as its custom and can be made to suit your needs perfectly if you do decide on that a very usefull tip is to use a level and draw the lines on the wall exactly where you want every piece of wood so you can see it and alter it if needed sorry i cant suggest any more than this.

Original Poster

You touting for work
Being serious, hammer, drill, spirit level and it'll still be wrong i'm useless
I did think of double D-lines but then wondered how to feed them all into the shelves
Hey, don't be sorry you've been really helpful, great to bounce ideas off someone who has been there, done it, i am really grateful!
I'll see what the next few days brings but i'll keep you updated
Thanks

good luck if i think of anything else i will let you know

Hi, i would advise digging a channel in the wall run the wired in some sort of tubing and then plaster or paint over... That's if you want the best finish... Also you can think about cable managers but imo they look sh**!!

Original Poster

Moneyboi

Hi, i would advise digging a channel in the wall run the wired in some … Hi, i would advise digging a channel in the wall run the wired in some sort of tubing and then plaster or paint over... That's if you want the best finish... Also you can think about cable managers but imo they look sh**!!


Thanks for the advice but being honest i don't really fancy doing that/having it done
I know in some folks eyes it'd look better just don't feel it the best way.
I know they're not to everyone's taste but done well i think it'll look good
Edited by: "boydent999" 22nd May 2011

Boydent, I take it you got JL to price match the TV?#

After they confirmed the price match did you have to place the order by phone or online?

Original Poster

Starr

Boydent, I take it you got JL to price match the TV?#After they confirmed … Boydent, I take it you got JL to price match the TV?#After they confirmed the price match did you have to place the order by phone or online?


Yes it was pricematched, last Saturday. In fact I got 2 since i didn't get a reply first time quick enough lol.
Once i received the email, i rung up JL on 01236 634444 quoted the Price Match code they emailed to me and ordered.
I do not think you can order online even with the price match code, the right "box" isn't displayed to enter it

Due to outlined logistical issues i have delayed delivery til late June, alas cheeky sods have took the full £599
I have to ring up after accepting delivery for the £200 to be refunded
Edited by: "boydent999" 22nd May 2011

ah ok thanks.

What about the £100 tv trade in?

I was trying to figure out how it will be done, i dd think they would take the full amount out.

Original Poster

Starr

ah ok thanks.What about the £100 tv trade in?I was trying to figure out … ah ok thanks.What about the £100 tv trade in?I was trying to figure out how it will be done, i dd think they would take the full amount out.


JL have the TV up at £699 - Tesco £399 (but that is including the trade-in)
So JL have sold it to me at trade-in price of £599, deducted from card already
Once i receive the TV, i ring up, they refund the £200 and i end up paying £399 that's including the £100 trade-in and £200 price match
The £699 on JL is pre-trade in, so with trade in (none price match) it'd £599 direct from them. Make sense?

hmm i'm confused lol

Email received from JL

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I am aware that Tesco now … Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I am aware that Tesco now have stock of the Sony Bravia KDL40EX503U.I will be happy to match the price of £499 for the Sony Bravia KDL40EX503U seen at Tesco. The Sony trade-in discount of £100 will be applied at checkout when promotional code 'SONYTRADE100' is entered.To place this order with us please call on 08456 049 049 and quote reference number [--------]. Please note the price difference will be refunded after the order has been billed.If you wish to view more information about Never Knowingly Undersold or our pricing policy, you can do so on our website.If I can be of any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact me.



So they are price matching £499 and then asking me to enter code at checkout to get the sony tv trade offer. Then they want me to phone up and place order?

Hmmmm, will speak yo them tmrw.

Sorry for swaying off topic a bit.

Original Poster

Dear,
Thank you for your price match enquiry.
I have looked into your request and will be happy to match the price of £499 (£399 if the Sony trade-in promotional discount is applied) for the Sony Bravia KDL40EX503U television seen at Tesco.
To place this order with us please call on 08456 049 049 and quote reference number 999999. Please note the price difference will be refunded after the order has been billed and delivered.
For the Sony trade-in discount to be applied, please request disposal of your old television and use the promotion code 'SONYTRADE100' during the checkout process.
If you wish to view more information about Never Knowingly Undersold or our pricing policy, you can do so on our website.
Please do not hesitate to contact me, if you have any further queries.

Above is the email i got.
When you ring up to order, they do all the work, they enter the sony trade in code and they enter the price match code.
As long as you have a price match code, and a tv to trade in (though some in main thread have said you don't need one) then you'll be charged £599 refunded down to £399.
Sorry i can't make it any clearer
I'd not leave it too late to order, not sure how long the price match is valid for


Edited by: "boydent999" 22nd May 2011

Original Poster

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/1160/johnlewis.png
Edited by: "boydent999" 22nd May 2011

Thanks buddy, really helpful.

I wanted to reply yesterday, but was at work.

If you look at some of the pics in this AV Forums thread, you'll see some have mounted their TV on a false floating wall. If you don't want to run the cable inside the wall, I think this is the next best thing as I'm sure you'll agree, exposed cable between TV and components are damn fugly!

The guy in this AV Forums thread posts pics of his floating wall, so it's quite easy to see how he did it.

Another option would be to buy a unit with an attached panel such as this one pictured below. Even if it's not the right colour or size, it's a clever idea as it hides cables and looks stylish too.

IKEA Tobo Unit
http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/images/products/tobo-tv-panel-with-media-storage-brown__0084357_PE210980_S4.JPG

I chose to raggle my wall, insert a tube and plaster over again for a nice finish. Although it wasn't as hard as I thought it would be, it is a very messy job as dust goes everywhere. I thought it would be messy beforehand, but I did it before decorating, so it didn't bother me.

Original Poster

windhoek

I wanted to reply yesterday, but was at work.


Windhoek,

Thanks very much for that reply (which i have trimmed to save the page getting too long :), hope that's ok).
The links to the AV Forums were really good, nice to see how the other half live lol!
Really was helpful alas still not sure as to what to do.
Digging into the plaster really might not work, problem i have is that the mains is to the right by a 1m of where the tv will be mounted; i am not digging into a wall and risking hitting the main's ring and believe me, i would hit it! It's not hard to work out where it is but all the same.
Not really a fan of the unit linked to but that does not mean i am notr grateful for the idea.
Shame the guy at AV with the floating wall didn't post it finished, all the effort he/she/they put in.

I emailed a cable management company for advice, to which i received an interim response so we'll see what happens next
Thanks again

Edited by: "boydent999" 24th May 2011
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