Warner Bros. to go Blu-ray exclusive

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Found 4th Jan 2008
Hey, I just found this article:

"NEW YORK/LOS ANGELES2008-01-04 20:22:49 GMT (Reuters) (Reuters) Time Warner's Warner Bros. studio Friday said it would exclusively release high-definition DVDs in Sony Corp's Blu-ray format, dealing a big blow to Toshiba Corp's rival HD DVD technology.

Warner Bros, Hollywood's biggest seller of DVDs, representing about 18 to 20% of sales in the United States, was one of the few studios that backed both formats.

All sides of the format war had agreed it was confusing to consumers and a stumbling block for a potential multibillion-dollar industry.

Total DVD unit sales fell 4.5% in 2007, the first major year-over-year decline since the disc format debuted in 1997, according to Adams Media Research. Sales fell 4.8% to $15.7 billion.

"The window of opportunity for high-definition DVD could be missed if format confusion continues to linger. We believe that exclusively distributing in Blu-ray will further the potential for mass market success and ultimately benefit retailers, producers, and most importantly, consumers," Warner Bros Chairman and Chief Executive Barry Meyer said in a statement.

News Corp's 20th Century Fox, Walt Disney, and Lionsgate are among studios backing the Blu-ray format. Viacom's Paramount studios and General Electric's NBC Universal release movies in HD DVD format.

Warner said it would continue releasing in the HD DVD format until the end of May, although those releases would follow the standard DVD and Blu-ray releases."


Warner Bros. are quite a large film studio, e.g the Harry Potter and Matrix series, and with Blu-ray already leading worldwide this could give Blu-ray a huge advantage over HD-DVD. Both Blu-ray and HD-DVD are great but it seems as though there are now a lot more film studios that are Blu-ray exclusive and in the current 'format war' it would now appear that Blu-ray is the favourite to win.

98 Comments

Damm, you just beat me.

Great news for PS3 and Blu-Ray owners.

yeah, hopefully blu ray will win and there will be only one format to choose, it would suck for the hd-dvd owners though.......but its for the greater good

i think blu-ray has won

Glad to hear it! Unlucky for the HDDVD users. Bluray reigns supreme!

I Don't get this fan boy business
why r people glad to hear it?

Good job i didn't buy the xbox HDDVD player addon.

Price of a standalone blu-ray player is nearly the same as a ps3.

jasonrat;1417617

why r people glad to hear it?



Its abit annoying when some films are only released on HDDVD and the other on Blu-ray. Hopefully HDDVD will die out and HDDVD films will come out on bluray

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It's going to be like 2009 before bluray even starts to win, although I agree that this is a very important step, alot can happen before 2009 (when dreamworks/paramount exclusivity deal runs out) also Universal is still a major player commited to HD DVD only at the moment so we shall see!

I bought an xbox hd dvd player and still intend to buy hd dvds (hopefully cheaper now!) because a film in HD is still HD regardless of what I use to play it on.

People who buy HD discs are still a very small minority >5% so until that number goes up which it should do as time goes on I think a winner is far from declared.

Actually HD DVD is outselling Blu Ray in Europe.

Think about it if only 2 stores in a town sell HD DVD and it still outsells Blu Ray in Europe and Blu Ray sells in 10 stores in a town what does that say?

I actually spoke to sales staff at Blockbuster, Sainsburys, and WH Smith today when I was looking for HD DVD's and each one of them said they have huge demand for HD DVD its just Sony has "deals" with the shops meaning they only stock Blu Ray.

If Sony played fair Blu Ray would have been spanked/

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Well that's what im saying it's going to be a long time before we see the long term effects of this,

What you think the general public has heard this and are about to start buying blu ray on mass? not at all

as for playng fairly cant blame them, paramount/dreamworks remember?

Larger storage capacity and the potential for different codecs to be used makes Blu-Ray better I would say.

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Yes blu ray was technically better, the region free HD DVD was nice, although it may have lose the format war in the coming months I wouldn't say it was a dead format....ill look forward to picking up cheap HD DVDs in addition to blu rays.

Proximo;1417699

Yes blu ray was technically better, the region free HD DVD was nice, … Yes blu ray was technically better, the region free HD DVD was nice, although it may have lose the format war in the coming months I wouldn't say it was a dead format....ill look forward to picking up cheap HD DVDs in addition to blu rays.



Agreed. A major test is going to be when one of them breaks for the price differentiation. Looking forward to the next few months and cheap HD-DVD offers as I have gone with this technology for the time being myself.

ryouga;1417630

Actually HD DVD is outselling Blu Ray in Europe.Think about it if only 2 … Actually HD DVD is outselling Blu Ray in Europe.Think about it if only 2 stores in a town sell HD DVD and it still outsells Blu Ray in Europe and Blu Ray sells in 10 stores in a town what does that say?I actually spoke to sales staff at Blockbuster, Sainsburys, and WH Smith today when I was looking for HD DVD's and each one of them said they have huge demand for HD DVD its just Sony has "deals" with the shops meaning they only stock Blu Ray.If Sony played fair Blu Ray would have been spanked/




I don't know where the hell you got that from but as far as im aware bluray is overselling HDDVD at almost a 5:1 ratio.

news.com/Blu…tml

Data indicates 73 percent of sales were in Blu-ray disc format backed by Sony, 27 precent in HD DVD format backed by Toshiba.

Published about 5 weeks ago.

I Was in Zavvi and HMV yesterday and there were more then double the amount of people looking at Bluray.

jasonrat;1417617

I Don't get this fan boy businesswhy r people glad to hear it?


Fanboys unfortunately, always thought Warners were pretty good with their hi-def releases but not for much longer. The rather ironic aspect is that if you look at something like 300, the HD DVD version was actually superior to the blu-ray version - it had full picture in picture as well as being able to be played in a normal DVD player.

I've bought both HD DVD and blu-ray (I don't think we're going to see any sort of victor for a long time, if ever) but when buying a title I'd rather the choice of which format I wanted it on, it's a poor reflection on the market that not only is that choice being taken away but people are cheering it on.

John

All I can say is that so far, I'm using HD-DVD due to the fact that it was a cheap add-on for the Xbox and the first step into the High Def market...

Once I can afford to, I do plan on adding Blu-Ray to the equation (but not with a PS3), just to further expand the choices available.

I couldn't give a toss with regards to the tech specs etc, as long as the transfer for image/sound is a nice as it can get.

I'm sure that when it does come round to affording a Blu-Ray player, the Dual Format Player would most likely have been released, which would make it better.

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I don't mind there being competition but I only have a Blu-ray player and no HD-DVD player which means for me there's going to be some movies that I miss out on in HD. Blu-ray was already outselling HD-DVD in all territories, 5 to 1 or 3 to 1 in Europe and 2 to 1 in America, and this is why Warner took this step because Blu-ray sales are a lot higher.

So if Blu-ray does go onto win the format war because of this and all movies come out in one HD format then I think it would be a good thing because it means that there won't be a divide and everyone will just need a Blu-ray player to watch all HD releases.

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ryouga;1417630

Actually HD DVD is outselling Blu Ray in Europe.Think about it if only 2 … Actually HD DVD is outselling Blu Ray in Europe.Think about it if only 2 stores in a town sell HD DVD and it still outsells Blu Ray in Europe and Blu Ray sells in 10 stores in a town what does that say?I actually spoke to sales staff at Blockbuster, Sainsburys, and WH Smith today when I was looking for HD DVD's and each one of them said they have huge demand for HD DVD its just Sony has "deals" with the shops meaning they only stock Blu Ray.If Sony played fair Blu Ray would have been spanked/



haha absolute rubbish from start to finish.

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Browni;1418009

All I can say is that so far, I'm using HD-DVD due to the fact that it … All I can say is that so far, I'm using HD-DVD due to the fact that it was a cheap add-on for the Xbox and the first step into the High Def market...Once I can afford to, I do plan on adding Blu-Ray to the equation (but not with a PS3), just to further expand the choices available.I couldn't give a toss with regards to the tech specs etc, as long as the transfer for image/sound is a nice as it can get.I'm sure that when it does come round to affording a Blu-Ray player, the Dual Format Player would most likely have been released, which would make it better.



Who is going to waste money releasing a dual format player when only one format is being produced.... :roll:

If Sony is the main player in the BluRay manufacture who produces the HD DVD's?

Toshiba

Worse thing for me personally is Lotr trilogy will it be released by new line before may 08 as which ever format it gets will win imo

Hd-dvd is dead in the water now - i was tempted to get one but now no way --- getting me a ps3 soon so blu rays there ready and waiting for me

All blu ray need now is universal exclusive to bluray and they have it in the bag
Apollo 13 + Pianist are universal
Total recall is released on blu ray now although only in usa
Terminator 2 is on blu ray
Only one i can think thats totally exclusive is transformers but ive got that on dvd and upscaling would do me

Matrix trilogy while hd-dvd exclusive will probably be released on blu ray as its warner

Which they will most likely get. I very much doubt Universal will want to fish alone in the dark.

BACK THE UNDERDOG

Mclovin;1420126

BACK THE UNDERDOG



Aye, back to GREAT British values:thumbsup::-D

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Personally I still hope HD-DVD win this war. Ive not bought into either - but just dont like Sony and their proprietory ways!

guv;1420315

Personally I still hope HD-DVD win this war. Ive not bought into either - … Personally I still hope HD-DVD win this war. Ive not bought into either - but just dont like Sony and their proprietory ways!



Well either way im not too fussed because
a)I havent bought either yet
B)i havent got an Hdtv
C)spent ages collecting dvds and not gunna start again just for a little better quality picture unless i have a decent set to play it on

dandoc2;1420103

Worse thing for me personally is Lotr trilogy will it be released by new … Worse thing for me personally is Lotr trilogy will it be released by new line before may 08 as which ever format it gets will win imo Hd-dvd is dead in the water now - i was tempted to get one but now no way --- getting me a ps3 soon so blu rays there ready and waiting for me All blu ray need now is universal exclusive to bluray and they have it in the bagApollo 13 + Pianist are universalTotal recall is released on blu ray now although only in usaTerminator 2 is on blu ray Only one i can think thats totally exclusive is transformers but ive got that on dvd and upscaling would do me Matrix trilogy while hd-dvd exclusive will probably be released on blu ray as its warner



LOL, there is no way LOTR would have decided the format winner.

And WB have stated that they will release Matrix when BD have finalised their profile - which I belive they have, so it should be in the pipeline.

Original Poster

Just a bit more news, New Line, Warner's sister company have now also decided to go Blu-ray exclusive.

kotaku.com/341…ray

Apparantly BBC and HBO are also part of Warner and they look increasingly likely to go Blu-ray exclusive.

Can't wait for Band of Brothers in Bluray now!

Finally, this is great news for consumers and it will make the BLU-ray apation rater faster meaning more people owning HD compatible electronics.

manzi;1420764

Finally, this is great news for consumers and it will make the BLU-ray … Finally, this is great news for consumers and it will make the BLU-ray apation rater faster meaning more people owning HD compatible electronics.



Thought its mainly young adults and teenagers that will be buying into blu ray because of this news

Older people wont have a clue about hd and things to do with it

Most people think the digital switchover means their normal tv wont work and they HAVE to buy an hdtv -- which is what the common ideas are with people - allyou need is a freeview box ppl

With blu ray aqquiring warner hd dvd will barely sell this year because the only ppl buying it were younger ppl who check the net every day and seeing this they wont bother - prepare to see a lot of hd dvd players on ebay or on this forum

I do prefer he blu ray boxes though i mean come on - also it solves my biggest gripe with dvds boxes that dont match - i mean no-one stuck to a format - stupid box sizes and cardboard cases

At least these dvds have to be released like that which is fine by me :-)

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/ces2006/gallery/bluraydiscs02boxopen01.jpghttp://www.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2006/11/hddvdps3.jpg

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dandoc2;1421081

Older people wont have a clue about hd and things to do with it Most … Older people wont have a clue about hd and things to do with it Most people think the digital switchover means their normal tv wont work and they HAVE to buy an hdtv -- which is what the common ideas are with people - allyou need is a freeview box ppl



Hmmm. Was it not you that claimed Freesat HD would be pointless because they would only be showing upscaled content? Stick with your freeview box if you must - but us oldies will be happily watching HD on their HDTVs. I dont need bluray (nor HD-DVD) for that - regardless of the upcoming freesat HD.

guv;1421102

Hmmm. Was it not you that claimed Freesat HD would be pointless because … Hmmm. Was it not you that claimed Freesat HD would be pointless because they would only be showing upscaled content? Stick with your freeview box if you must - but us oldies will be happily watching HD on their HDTVs. I dont need bluray (nor HD-DVD) for that - regardless of the upcoming freesat HD.



No you missed my point

People think the digital switchover means you MUST buy an hdtv
Not many ppl realise all you need is a freeview box for £20 from argos

Dunno what your talking about

Anyways

Blu ray is no advantage atm in the gaming world - games look fantastic and are fantastic on normal dvds as the 360 has shown
Ps3 has inbuilt blu ray yet games are exactly the same as the 360 so no diff

In about 3 years i can see blu ray becoming advantageous only because the graphics will improve and the games wont fit on dvds


Blu ray and hd dvd are for films PERIOD
When the ps2 came out with inbuilt dvd none of the launch games used more than what a cd was as they couldnt fill it - look now 8gb dvd is shrinking

Gaming is moving so fast that in a few years the new consoles will be out and you will see the future formats and entertainment --Although this announcement may have killed off hd dvd i thinkit will last until next year but i cant see microsoft wanting to back it as much nor toshiba

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dandoc2;1421149

No you missed my pointPeople think the digital switchover means you MUST … No you missed my pointPeople think the digital switchover means you MUST buy an hdtv Not many ppl realise all you need is a freeview box for £20 from argos



Whilst the less technically minded maybe do think that, I don't think its age thats necessarily the issue as you suggested! (Unless you are referring to real wrinklies of course - and they wont know what the hell an HDTV is anyway!)

Dunno what your talking about



I think you do!!!!:p

Hmmmm lets look at Sony's track record

Beta-max
UMD
Mini-discs
Super Audio Cd

I wont hold my breath...yet

That digital switchover definatley isn't an age thing, unless 40 is too old to understand. I remember nearly coming to blows and argueing for hours with somebody who just wouldn't have it that all you needed was a freeview box. Reckon I shoulda just lamped him and walked away in retrospect :lol:

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dandoc2;1421149

Anyways Blu ray is no advantage atm in the gaming world - games look … Anyways Blu ray is no advantage atm in the gaming world - games look fantastic and are fantastic on normal dvds as the 360 has shownPs3 has inbuilt blu ray yet games are exactly the same as the 360 so no diffIn about 3 years i can see blu ray becoming advantageous only because the graphics will improve and the games wont fit on dvdsBlu ray and hd dvd are for films PERIODWhen the ps2 came out with inbuilt dvd none of the launch games used more than what a cd was as they couldnt fill it - look now 8gb dvd is shrinkingGaming is moving so fast that in a few years the new consoles will be out and you will see the future formats and entertainment --Although this announcement may have killed off hd dvd i thinkit will last until next year but i cant see microsoft wanting to back it as much nor toshiba



Hmmm. You edited your post since my reply! I was too quick off the mark!

Yes, games are getting bigger and better, however good coding can dramatically reduce that. The more capacity you give, the more bloated games will get. I can think back to my old BBC model B and a game called Elite written to run within 32Kb. Ok granted by todays standards its graphically inept, but there can be no doubting its a huge game written in but a few lines of code!

As you have already pointed out, 360 games on DVD havent been surpassed by PS3 Blu-ray games. Maybe they will, but I would be surprsied if its the extra capacity that does this.

guv;1421183

Yes, games are getting bigger and better, however good coding can … Yes, games are getting bigger and better, however good coding can dramatically reduce that. The more capacity you give, the more bloated games will get. I can think back to my old BBC model B and a game called Elite written to run within 32Kb. Ok granted by todays standards its graphically inept, but there can be no doubting its a huge game written in but a few lines of code!



That's so true. The more space they get, they don't improve, they just get lazy and fill it with ****** FMV stuff etc. And as for Elite.... I was ;-) Thargoids is it? I've **** 'em :lol:
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