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    What are you paying for with XBOX live?

    I went to a friends to play Call of Duty but on his Xbox 360. My understanding for some reason is that because you are paying £30 a year or whatever it is, the whole point of a better experience in my view was that Microsoft hosts all the games on their servers.

    Maybe im being unrealistic but from what I experience the quality of service was on par with the PS3 (as in game drops when host quits, well thats it really but it is a big issue). I used to think damn I wouldn't mind paying £30-£40 for a PS3 live and have Sony host the games, but Microsoft don't do this either so what exactly are you paying for?

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    It pays for all the live services.

    paying or an all round better servive....xbox live is far better than psn

    I own both by the way...no fan boy but thats how this thread will go(_;)

    Banned

    30 quid every 14 months isnt really worth worrying about

    Original Poster

    No but what are you paying for, I don't see what is different you say "service" what is a better "service" I thought it was games hosted on own servers but if thats not the case then I don't see what you can pay for.

    Niz

    No but what are you paying for, I don't see what is different you say … No but what are you paying for, I don't see what is different you say "service" what is a better "service" I thought it was games hosted on own servers but if thats not the case then I don't see what you can pay for.

    You are paying for the live service...
    Basically everything that the 360 needs a net connection to do is what you pay for.

    Banned

    Live service

    demos

    facebook

    zune

    live fm

    etc etc

    Niz

    No but what are you paying for, I don't see what is different you say … No but what are you paying for, I don't see what is different you say "service" what is a better "service" I thought it was games hosted on own servers but if thats not the case then I don't see what you can pay for.



    you can't see any difference between xbox live and psn?? there are loads..see above post for a few

    dcx_badass

    My PC is free to play online, with this I get free online play, unlimited … My PC is free to play online, with this I get free online play, unlimited access to demos, I can also go online and post on HUKD, access to dedicated servers (if the game supports it), free DLC content (VIP packs for BFBC2 for exaple), I can play films, access all the catch up services, view and edit photos, run software, do work and much much more.



    I think you love your pc too much brah, you might want to get out once in a while

    we're paying cos we have to pay (if we wanna play on line). simple!

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    pyromania

    Live servicedemosfacebookzunelive fm etc etc


    okay I looked up these things
    demos are free on PS3 anyway,
    Facebook gamertag link, yep and the gamertag thing in general so yep
    zune, looks like streaming movies and music for free, seems like a better deal than getting lovefilm? £30 a year seems like a bargain
    live fm couldn't find anything but last.fm I know about, fair enough.

    okay seem like a good deal with free streaming of movies.

    call of duty on the ps3 for example seems to drop you out of pretty much every game, one day i played and got dropped out of all but 2 games over 2 hours, xbox has never done that to me..

    Also xbox dashboard etc is so much better than psn, with the ability for cross game chat which you cant do on the psn..

    To be honest if you don't like the idea of paying either don't play online or buy a ps3
    Edited by: "winifer" 5th Jan 2011

    pyromania

    Live servicedemosfacebookzunelive fm etc etc


    What bugs me more than anything with the xbox is that we'll never see iplayer etc on it due to Microsofts insistence on charging for everything

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    winifer

    call of duty on the ps3 for example seems to drop you out of pretty much … call of duty on the ps3 for example seems to drop you out of pretty much every game, one day i played and got dropped out of all but 2 games over 2 hours, xbox has never done that to me..Also xbox dashboard etc is so much better than psn, with the ability for cross game chat which you cant do on the psn.. To be honest if you don't like the idea of paying either don't play online or buy a ps3

    sorry but did you read my post? I just said I played Call of Duty - (Black Ops to be exact) and the same problems exist and by the nature of hosting games being the same it cannot be different, unless by sheer luck XBOX users are not such sore loosers. Ah yes croos game voice chat, fair enough.

    Doesn't matter im content in what people are paying for now, ZUNEs free HD streaming movies alone seems a good deal, im not sure why people did not just say that off the bat.

    Niz

    sorry but did you read my post? I just said I played Call of Duty - … sorry but did you read my post? I just said I played Call of Duty - (Black Ops to be exact) and the same problems exist and by the nature of hosting games being the same it cannot be different, unless by sheer luck XBOX users are not such sore loosers. Ah yes croos game voice chat, fair enough.Doesn't matter im content in what people are paying for now, ZUNEs free HD streaming movies alone seems a good deal, im not sure why people did not just say that off the bat.


    Free movies on zune, you sure?

    Banned

    Zune isn't free oO
    One thing you pay for is Call Of Duty map packs and Fallout DLC available to buy before the PS3/PC versions.
    MS have to pay the publishers for that privilege, it comes out of the subs.
    You are also paying for the maintenance and upkeep for the Xbox live infrastructure, all the stuff that goes on in the background.

    Oh and if COD doesn't have host migration then that is Activisions fault.It is possible on P2P games.

    Well it depends really I tend to find it varies in games, in FPS games for example, for your £30 a year you'll get a lot of 12 year olds hurling abuse at you. Then if you play fighters, then you're paying for your opponent to disconnect at the end of the third round and probably a nice message from "xxgH05tK1ll3rxx" kindly giving you a reality check, just in case you were getting delusions of grandeur.

    Though that's public gaming in general really.

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    Paddy_o_furniture

    Free movies on zune, you sure?

    well thats what pyromania gave on the list of things you get with XBOX live above so I assume so.
    greatest666

    Zune isn't free oOOne thing you pay for is Call Of Duty map packs and … Zune isn't free oOOne thing you pay for is Call Of Duty map packs and Fallout DLC available to buy before the PS3/PC versions.MS have to pay the publishers for that privilege, it comes out of the subs.You are also paying for the maintenance and upkeep for the Xbox live infrastructure, all the stuff that goes on in the background.Oh and if COD doesn't have host migration then that is Activisions fault.It is possible on P2P games.

    ah okay so the map updates are free, that's pretty good. Well its this Xbox live infrastructure part that im not understanding what is there is to structure. The gamertag thing seems rather important to many XBOX live players so if thats it then fair enough I guess.

    PS3 does have its equivalent though but I don't really care about that. My question was really just to know what Microsoft is charging for is all after I found out they don't host games.

    COD does have host migration but sometimes they do fail on both 360 and PS3

    So now ive got:

    Cross game voice chat
    Free Download Content (thats paid for on other platforms)

    and zune is not included in the subscription so that's out don't know why pyromania said that then.
    Edited by: "Niz" 5th Jan 2011

    Niz

    well thats what pyromania gave on the list of things you get with XBOX … well thats what pyromania gave on the list of things you get with XBOX live above so I assume so. ah okay so the map updates are free, that's pretty good. Well its this Xbox live infrastructure part that im not understanding what is there is to structure. The gamertag thing seems rather important to many XBOX live players so if thats it then fair enough I guess. PS3 does have its equivalent though but I don't really care about that. My question was really just to know what Microsoft is charging for is all after I found out they don't host games.COD does have host migration but sometimes they do fail on both 360 and PS3So now ive got:Cross game voice chatFree Download Content (thats paid for on other platforms)and zune is not included in the subscription so that's out don't know why pyromania said that then.


    Map packs aren't free. Infact the most recent COD ones where ridicously over priced (by the publish not MS).

    The fact that alot of games now require codes from the manual to allow online play devalues the service even further. If you bought FIFA 11 2nd hand you'd pay for the online code then you'd pay MS for live. (again not totally microsofts fault)

    Like I said before, you pay for the whole of the live service. It doesnt matter if its offered for free or not, or if sony has their free alternative, gold members are still paying for it.

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    deathtrap3000

    Like I said before, you pay for the whole of the live service. It doesnt … Like I said before, you pay for the whole of the live service. It doesnt matter if its offered for free or not, or if sony has their free alternative, gold members are still paying for it.

    I see what you are trying to say but I wanted to know as to what Microsoft is offering that is an additional cost to them to charge people to use online services. Unfortunately it looks like they just want to make money I am shocked Microsoft went with this but it does seem to be working for them.

    Niz

    I see what you are trying to say but I wanted to know as to what … I see what you are trying to say but I wanted to know as to what Microsoft is offering that is an additional cost to them to charge people to use online services. Unfortunately it looks like they just want to make money I am shocked Microsoft went with this but it does seem to be working for them.

    The huge data centers and bandwidth are what costs the most. In sony's case they charge the publishers based on what people download to cover some of the costs. Microsoft passed most of the charges onto the customer, which gets them more money and enables them to invest more in the service. But at the end of the day if you are looking for something to separate what you get if you pay for the service instead of opting for the free one, then all you get is online play, access to some of the third party stuff, and some exclusive content that is usually timed.
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