What Are you Views on Anabolic steroids....

When I was young, I thought there was very bad and should never be used ( then again I didn't know anything about them)

At the moment they are only legal for personal use, I think they should change this law, it would make the UK sport much more exciting, more competitive a higher standard and more money would be made. I think we shouldn't be so quick to judge people who take AAS either, they are only trying to be the best at there job. (I take back what I said about DJ and his use)

Steroids are used in medicine quite a lot, for example if a babies lungs are not growing, they are given a HGH (steroid) to help them grow at a quicker rate.

more deaths are caused by alcohol and smoking each year then AAS as well...

I'm ideally looking for people who play sorts at a high level and what they think about this....

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I am on Steroids for my hayfever and get an 80mg Kenolog injection in me bum every April...helps me....



as for the use of Steroids in Sport...no its wrong....

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ODB_69;2618200

I am on Steroids for my hayfever and get an 80mg Kenolog injection in me … I am on Steroids for my hayfever and get an 80mg Kenolog injection in me bum every April...helps me....



who percribes you the Kenolog? your doctor?

And aint it "Kenalog"/Cortisone?
ODB_69;2618200

as for the use of Steroids in Sport...no its wrong....


how come no for sports, they are only wanting to to the best they can at there job, if they wish to use them I personally say let them, if used correctly there is a very very low chance of health problems later on in life.

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black gerbil1;2618212

who percribes you the Kenolog? your doctor?


yup...


I get severe seasonal allergic conjunctivitis brought on by my hayfever....if it gets to bad I have to be taken into hospital to get fluid drained....nice huh!

Kenolog 80mg is the highest dose

i traain quiet regularly, got some steds...then decided against them when found i could get the sock. last week i had to have a medical

moral of the story is, .....well actually i dnt know i was just damn lucky i didnt get on them lol

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Havince;2618287

i traain quiet regularly, got some steds...then decided against them when … i traain quiet regularly, got some steds...then decided against them when found i could get the sock. last week i had to have a medicalmoral of the story is, .....well actually i dnt know i was just damn lucky i didnt get on them lol



what sport do you train is and what do you think about AAS?

lol bolics

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jellybaby22;2618307

anabolic steriods are different to corticosteroids ....the type commonly … anabolic steriods are different to corticosteroids ....the type commonly used to treat asthma and the likes.......


corticosteroids are still dangerous, if you take more then you should, I think the same principal with Performance enhancing. the HGH steroid which I said in my OP is used to to help people get better, and this is what some people use to make them better at there jobs.

That's pretty much the same as saying we should pump policemen full of speed and pcp before they go out to police football matches....never mind if the occasional one dies eh!!

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maddogb;2618431

That's pretty much the same as saying we should pump policemen full of … That's pretty much the same as saying we should pump policemen full of speed and pcp before they go out to police football matches....never mind if the occasional one dies eh!!


speed alters the mind, which has not what AAS do.

If athletes want to be the best then train to be the best rather than enhance with drugs etc

Doesn't even have to be steroids to enhance your performance...

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umanga;2618494

If athletes want to be the best then train to be the best rather than … If athletes want to be the best then train to be the best rather than enhance with drugs etcDoesn't even have to be steroids to enhance your performance...]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7525275.stm



lol Ive tried caffeine pills and other Nos boosters , let me tell you, it aint got nothing on AAS

black gerbil1;2618472

speed alters the mind, which has not what AAS do.



So speed has no physiological effects?, and what does it matter, it will make the police better at dealing with the hooligans!

black gerbil1;2618301

what sport do you train is and what do you think about AAS?



i train as in personnel training not for particular recreation , steds are dangerous they always have been and allways will be. theres nothing to say in a few years down the line something might happen, they damage your kidneys just not worth it

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maddogb;2618550

So speed has no physiological effects?, and what does it matter, it will … So speed has no physiological effects?, and what does it matter, it will make the police better at dealing with the hooligans!


my first comment was about sport, not other jobs, if I thought it was a good idea for the police to use it I would of put it in my OP.

this is strictly sport related.

black gerbil1;2618704

my first comment was about sport, not other jobs, if I thought it was a … my first comment was about sport, not other jobs, if I thought it was a good idea for the police to use it I would of put it in my OP.this is strictly sport related.



so it's ok to encourage self abuse via chemicals in a area which has only recreational value, like sports?
but not ok to apply same principles to very important roles in society?

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maddogb;2618720

so it's ok to encourage self abuse via chemicals in a area which has only … so it's ok to encourage self abuse via chemicals in a area which has only recreational value, like sports?but not ok to apply same principles to very important roles in society?



I'm ideally looking for people who play sorts at a high level and what … I'm ideally looking for people who play sorts at a high level and what they think about this....



Do you have any knowledge on AAS, or just what you here from word of mouth? and I already said its not for recreational value although that is legal in the uk.

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Havince;2618607

i train as in personnel training not for particular recreation , steds … i train as in personnel training not for particular recreation , steds are dangerous they always have been and allways will be. theres nothing to say in a few years down the line something might happen, they damage your kidneys just not worth it


I woundnt say there any more dangerous then drinking abuse or smoking.

ODB take steroids for a health condition, he is taking a recommended dosage and I very sure nothing will happen to him in the future unless he goes above the recommend dosage for a long period of time.

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My mate started taking anabolics about 6 months ago when he started pumping iron.

massive muscles now but much more miserable and he has developed a viscious temper.

I reckon he's hooked (if possible?) as he just tries to change the subject when it's brought up about quitting.

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Is it true that they turn your testes into small marbles. Nothing would deter me more! lol

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csiman;2618884

Is it true that they turn your testes into small marbles. Nothing would … Is it true that they turn your testes into small marbles. Nothing would deter me more! lol


they decrease in size, but the effects are only temp, does your friend compete or just for normal use?

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black gerbil1;2618913

they decrease in size, but the effects are only temp, does your friend … they decrease in size, but the effects are only temp, does your friend compete or just for normal use?


normal use. Goes to the gym 4-5 times a week minimum then gets trashed on alcohol at the weekends.

So they do not make you infertile?

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massmail666;2618926

anyone know where to get safe ones online?


I don't know any sites, but you can legally import them. you do sports or anything and thinking about taking them sir?

My son has steroid tablets for his asthma sometimes. In medical cases i think its a MUST however for sports, or just to win, i wouldnt do it. Push your body as far as your body can withstand without using drugs. Everyone has a limit, steroids just mask that. They are banned in sports for a reason.
Maybe i am Naive and ignorant.......

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pcnutta;2618977

My son has steroid tablets for his asthma sometimes. In medical cases i … My son has steroid tablets for his asthma sometimes. In medical cases i think its a MUST however for sports, or just to win, i wouldnt do it. Push your body as far as your body can withstand without using drugs. Everyone has a limit, steroids just mask that. They are banned in sports for a reason.Maybe i am Naive and ignorant.......


they are mainly banned so its a even playing field, but if they allow everyone to take them it would be okay, as they are legal to take for personal use.

Naive you, maybe, ignorant, no

Personally, I don't think steroids should be allowed in any form of sport. If someone is any good at what they do, then they are obviously naturally talented and deserve to do well. If people are taking steroids, I don't think it's to be the best at what they do, as to me it implies that they haven't got enough ability by themselves and they therefore think that taking substances to make them as good as others is the only thing to do.

If I watch a sport, I want to see people using their own natural ability, not a drug enhanced version of them

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massmail666;2618994

yeah bit of rugby and weighlifting


ah I see, most rugby player are my gyms are lets say, not very nice:-D

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Charlie&Lola;2619055

Personally, I don't think steroids should be allowed in any form of … Personally, I don't think steroids should be allowed in any form of sport. If someone is any good at what they do, then they are obviously naturally talented and deserve to do well. If people are taking steroids, I don't think it's to be the best at what they do, as to me it implies that they haven't got enough ability by themselves and they therefore think that taking substances to make them as good as others is the only thing to do. If I watch a sport, I want to see people using their own natural ability, not a drug enhanced version of them


Good point.

Like I said in my OP , it would take sport to the next level and the be better to watch, make more money etc etc. If they allow the use of this in sport, then people who wish to progress to the next level of there playing career can so, and be the best at there job. Just buy taking steroids don't make you a good footballer/ faster runner, it still takes alot of hard work, there not miracle pills.

Can they change your personality? I had a BF many years ago who was a body builder, i swear he took them, he used to freak me out with personaility changes.... really acted werid sometimes.... Or maybe it was just him hahaha

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black gerbil1;2619084

Good point.Like I said in my OP , it would take sport to the next level … Good point.Like I said in my OP , it would take sport to the next level and the be better to watch, make more money etc etc. If they allow the use of this in sport, then people who wish to progress to the next level of there playing career can so, and be the best at there job. Just buy taking steroids don't make you a good footballer/ faster runner, it still takes alot of hard work, there not miracle pills.


Cannot agree that every sportsperson (how would you define this?) should be allowed to take steroids to improve their performance. After all, they are plainly not safe and sports stars are major role models.

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pcnutta;2619104

Can they change your personality? I had a BF many years ago who was a … Can they change your personality? I had a BF many years ago who was a body builder, i swear he took them, he used to freak me out with personaility changes.... really acted werid sometimes.... Or maybe it was just him hahaha


classic symptom.

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csiman;2619109

Cannot agree that every sportsperson (how would you define this?) should … Cannot agree that every sportsperson (how would you define this?) should be allowed to take steroids to improve their performance. After all, they are plainly not safe and sports stars are major role models.


then people who wish to progress to the next level of there playing … then people who wish to progress to the next level of there playing career can so


I said give them the option to take it, so if they want they can.
csiman;2619109

After all, they are plainly not safe and sports stars are major role … After all, they are plainly not safe and sports stars are major role models.


There not safe granted (if abused), but smoking and alcohol isn't either, but people find that acceptable

I knew it, shame he was lovely sometimes! LOL
Id describe it as paranoia behaviour, he would be normal for a few days then hide away acting all blooming paranoid, agitated and i always remember his eyes used to freak me out.!

black gerbil1;2619084

Good point.Like I said in my OP , it would take sport to the next level … Good point.Like I said in my OP , it would take sport to the next level and the be better to watch, make more money etc etc. If they allow the use of this in sport, then people who wish to progress to the next level of there playing career can so, and be the best at there job. Just buy taking steroids don't make you a good footballer/ faster runner, it still takes alot of hard work, there not miracle pills.



I know that they'd still have to train just as hard, but for me, I just think it would really belittle the whole sports world if that were to happen. Rather than comment on a particular person being really good, there would always be part of me wondering how much of the performance was him/her, and how much was drug enhanced. I just wouldn't find it at all appealing to watch. And although I have no experience of this first hand, I have heard that taking steroids can cause aggression/violence in people, so surely this couldn't be a good thing when you have a field full of men already hyped up and full of testosterone.

there are horrific.

mood swings, paranoya, loss of hair (YES REALLY) kidney damage liver damage, muscle damage, and yes you can get addicted

black gerbil1;2619132

I said give them the option to take it, so if they want they can.There … I said give them the option to take it, so if they want they can.There not safe granted (if abused), but smoking and alcohol isn't either, but people find that acceptable



understand that smoking and drinking is bad yes they are but you cant compare them to taking steds. steds is a lot worse as everyone knows whats in alchol and cigs with steds the variation of the content is massive

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Havince;2619150

there are horrific.mood swings, paranoya, loss of hair (YES REALLY) … there are horrific.mood swings, paranoya, loss of hair (YES REALLY) kidney damage liver damage, muscle damage, and yes you can get addicted


SIDE EFFECTS OF vitamin C, everything we take has side effects if taking incorrectly , and im sure there is alot more then this for vit C.
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Common side-effects

Relatively large doses of vitamin C may cause indigestion, particularly when taken on an empty stomach.

When taken in large doses, vitamin C causes diarrhea in healthy subjects. In one trial, doses up to 6 grams of ascorbic acid were given to 29 infants, 93 children of preschool and school age, and 20 adults for more than 1400 days. With the higher doses, toxic manifestations were observed in five adults and four infants. The signs and symptoms in adults were nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, flushing of the face, headache, fatigue and disturbed sleep. The main toxic reactions in the infants were skin rashes.[87] On the other hand, Cathcart has demonstrated that sick patients, with influenza and cancer for example, do not suffer any adverse effects whatsoever until the dosage is raised to fairly high levels such as 100 grams or higher.[88]

[edit] Possible side-effects

As vitamin C enhances iron absorption[89], iron poisoning can become an issue to people with rare iron overload disorders, such as haemochromatosis. A genetic condition that results in inadequate levels of the enzyme glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase (G6PD), can cause sufferers to develop hemolytic anemia after ingesting specific oxidizing substances, such as very large dosages of vitamin C.[90]

There is a longstanding belief among the mainstream medical community that vitamin C causes kidney stones, which is based on little science.[91] Although some individual recent studies have found a relationship[92] there is no clear relationship between excess ascorbic acid intake and kidney stone formation. [93]

In a study conducted on rats, during the first month of pregnancy, high doses of vitamin C may suppress the production of progesterone from the corpus luteum.[94] Progesterone, necessary for the maintenance of a pregnancy, is produced by the corpus luteum for the first few weeks, until the placenta is developed enough to produce its own source. By blocking this function of the corpus luteum, high doses of vitamin C (1000+ mg) are theorized to induce an early miscarriage.

In a group of spontaneously aborting women at the end of the first trimester, the mean values of vitamin C were significantly higher in the aborting group. However, the authors do state: 'This could not be interpreted as an evidence of causal association.'[95]

However, in a previous study of 79 women with threatened, previous spontaneous, or habitual abortion, Javert and Stander (1943) had 91% success with 33 patients who received vitamin C together with bioflavinoids and vitamin K (only three abortions), whereas all of the 46 patients who did not receive the vitamins aborted. [96]

[edit] Chance of overdose

As discussed previously, vitamin C exhibits remarkably low toxicity. The LD50 (the dose that will kill 50% of a population) in rats is generally accepted to be 11.9 grams per kilogram of body weight when taken orally.[36] The LD50 in humans remains unknown, owing to medical ethics that preclude experiments which would put patients at risk of harm. However, as with all substances tested in this way, the LD50 is taken as a guide to its toxicity in humans and no data to contradict this has been found.

Linus Pauling claims that there is no lethal dose of vitamin C.[citation needed]

My opinion is that steriods for medical reasons, to save a life or improve a condition is a good use of drugs.
To take steriods for personal gain/recreational use is not right for a number of reasons, the main one being that it will give you an unfair advantage over people who are against the use of drugs (well within their rights there) in the same field and means you are not having a fair race/match.
Part of me thinks it is a lie, you have not achieved what you have through hard graft alone - you have an enhancer within your body which gives you an unfair advantage.
Yes, it is your choice. Yes, you will have worked hard to get where you are, but do you believe that you will be a fair and even competitor against someone drug-free? In my opinion, no.

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Charlie&Lola;2619141

I know that they'd still have to train just as hard, but for me, I just … I know that they'd still have to train just as hard, but for me, I just think it would really belittle the whole sports world if that were to happen. Rather than comment on a particular person being really good, there would always be part of me wondering how much of the performance was him/her, and how much was drug enhanced. I just wouldn't find it at all appealing to watch. And although I have no experience of this first hand, I have heard that taking steroids can cause aggression/violence in people, so surely this couldn't be a good thing when you have a field full of men already hyped up and full of testosterone.



I can see that your a spectator of sport (just judging by your post) so I see why you have these views. I think if you was play a competitive sport at a medium/high level you would see why it would be a good idea IMO.

took them 2 years ago to build up as had lost a lot of weight after a family bereavement - put on 3 stone quicky, ate right and was at the gym alot. Felt fantastic physically, however terrible mood swings, one minute happy and ok next just really angry for no reason. Stopped and the symptoms over time have died down - but I wouldnt say completely gone.

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hdixon85;2619172

To take steriods for personal gain/recreational use is not right for a … To take steriods for personal gain/recreational use is not right for a number of reasons, the main one being that it will give you an unfair advantage over people who are against the use of drugs (well within their rights there) in the same field and means you are not having a fair race/match. Part of me thinks it is a lie, you have not achieved what you have through hard graft alone - you have an enhancer within your body which gives you an unfair advantage.Yes, it is your choice. Yes, you will have worked hard to get where you are, but do you believe that you will be a fair and even competitor against someone drug-free? In my opinion, no.


if you allow it to be used in sports, only the best of the best will succeed , making sport more much competitive, and better imo.

Sport in the UK is going downhill at the moment, drastic actions need to be taken.
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