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    What do I go for Canon 450d or 40d or 50d !!! advice please

    Hi

    looking to buy myself a new camera, I had sort of made my mind up on the 450d as it had good reviews not a bad price etc

    went into the shop today for a touchy feely which was a big mistake as although I do still like the 450d I prefered the wieght etc of the 40/50d

    I know they are much more expensive (£400 for the 450, £700 for the 40 and £1000 for the 50) but are they worth the extra

    I am not a pro by any means but not someone who just points and presses !

    any help and advice would be great

    Cheers

    John

    Ps what are the best prices around for the above at the mo.

    19 Comments

    Buy a used 20D - best value for money out there.

    Original Poster

    hi

    thanks for that, can you please give me some details and why you think as i am open to something else

    cheers

    john

    You say you prefer the weight of the more expensive models. Are they heavier/lighter than the 450D?

    Original Poster

    hi

    sorry did not make that very clear, they are heavier without looking it up on the net i ould say approx half the weight again

    just felt me comftible and solid in my hands

    You could always get the battery grip for the 450D (BG-E5), which would increase weight and make it feel more stable (while increasing battery life of course!)

    Don't forget lenses as well, a good telephoto lens is going to add a considerable amount of weight.

    Original Poster

    hi

    never thought of that and that does seem a good idea

    i am glad you have brought up lenses as jesops is offering a Tamron 70-300mm f4/5.6 DI LD Macro with one of their packages

    dont know much about these are they any good

    I don't know much about lens I'm afraid.
    The only advice I can provide is that to remember that the 450D doesn't have image stabilisation (IS) within the body of the camera. The standard lens kit that comes with the 450D has IS in the lens.
    So if you want to purchase a telephoto lens, you'll want to get one with IS which will mean more money but should be worth it.
    I'd probably say you could get away with getting a close up macro lens without IS though. It's more useful on longer lenses/large zooms.

    I have had the 20D for three years.

    results are superb.

    outside of the lcd screen size and a couple of mb resolutuion difference (which makes b*****R all difference) the 20D knocks the 450D into a cocked hat.

    weight, fee and specifications are spot on.

    read dpreview's reports on the cameras.

    I cannot rate the 20D more highly.

    with the money you save by the SIgma 18-200 with image stabilisation and you will be
    set up for all of your needs - big time.

    the Tamrom lens is fine but the Sigma 18-200mm means you needn't buy any other lenses and with the crop factor it gives you 200 x 1.6 don't forget

    Hi there. I havent read the other replies. but here is mine.

    I bought a 40d from currys a few months back. Sold my 400d. I was very impressed with the quality coming from the 40d. The 6fps was what swung me though.

    40d, has the live view, lovely large screen at the back, and a larger body than the 400d, making it easier to hold onto when you have big hands!!!

    The build quality is lovely I must admit.

    Anyhoo, I was offered a brand new 450d for £250, so I took it, and after using both cameras I changed to the 450d. It has all the same gubbins inside like the 40d, it has a slightly larger sensor offering slightly bigger images!! - Live view and the digic 3 processor. The only thing the 450d doesnt have is 6fps. It has 3.5fps.

    I find that the image quality on the 450d is slightly better, colour reproduction and metering seem to be better if you dont want to fuss too much with the settings.

    Although the 450d is smaller, when you have a nice large lens on it, you dont notice the difference. I would say now from experience, spend the extra money on the lenses than the cameras. You will be so surprised what a good lens can do.

    My suggestions

    17-85 - lovely lens, barrel distortion is a bit of a pig
    Tamron 17-50 Amazing sharp lens with lovely colours
    24-105L IS - very expensive,but amazing.

    Original Poster

    Magic_monkey;3935232

    I don't know much about lens I'm afraid.The only advice I can provide is … I don't know much about lens I'm afraid.The only advice I can provide is that to remember that the 450D doesn't have image stabilisation (IS) within the body of the camera. The standard lens kit that comes with the 450D has IS in the lens.So if you want to purchase a telephoto lens, you'll want to get one with IS which will mean more money but should be worth it.I'd probably say you could get away with getting a close up macro lens without IS though. It's more useful on longer lenses/large zooms.



    Hi

    do the 40/50d come with IS within the body?

    Original Poster

    aircanman;3935464

    Anyhoo, I was offered a brand new 450d for £250, so I took it, .




    hi

    any more at this price !!!!

    and thanks for your answers its nice to hear from someone who has used them in tandom

    john77;3935540

    hiany more at this price !!!!and thanks for your answers its nice to hear … hiany more at this price !!!!and thanks for your answers its nice to hear from someone who has used them in tandom



    Right, no sadly. It was a one off!!

    No canon DSLR has IS built into the body. All lens based im afraid!

    Dont mess around with the cheap lenses.

    Buy the 450d kit and sell the kit lens on ebay, get around (£60) for it.

    Go out and buy the 17-85 for the wide angle shots, and the 75-300 USM lens for the zoom shots. 17-85 is around £275 and the 75-300 is £200 i think. These are dam good lenses and you cover all needed with this zoom range.

    Another vote for a second hand 20d, like you i was going to go for a 400/450d but when i felt it i thought i was going to break it due to my oversized hands, my friend had a 30d and i much prefered that, the size, the top display, the wheel, feels more durable etc. so i went for the 20d, i got it off e-bay for £180 body only and it's immaculate, i think people tend to look after them!!

    Definitely go for the 20/30d over the 400/450/1000d any day. The same friend has just upgraded to a 40d, perhaps his 30d might be coming my way...........

    Original Poster

    hi

    what are the specs of the 20d or the 30d if your friend wants to sell

    cheers
    john

    20D: steves-digicams.com/200…tml

    30D: steves-digicams.com/200…tml

    I think the 450 is an XTi in the USA (it's an American site: steves-digicams.com/har…tml).

    I was in a similar position: used 20D or new 350D. I bought a 20D and have subsequently tried a 350 and a 400. I prefer the feel and size of the 20D (even though I have small hands).

    Why not pop into Jessops and try them both to see if you have a preference for the size difference?

    There are some good prices for 20Ds here: mpbphotographic.co.uk

    Two useful sites for lens reviews are:

    photozone.de/rev…ews
    fredmiranda.com/

    You will not go wrong with a 20D or 30D.

    I had the 20D and now a 40D and they are both tremendous camera's, to be honest the 2Mp difference in res isn't worth worrying about and if the 20/30 fits your budget go for these over the 400, 450D etc any day of the week.

    Beyond a longer shutter life and larger LCD there is little to recommend the 30D over the 20D (Why I waited for the 40D before changing) so my advise would be don't pay much extra for a 30D but watch for 20D's that have had lots of shutter actuations as the shutter is rated for 50,000 not the 100,000 of the later ones. To put this in perspective Canon don't rate the 400/450D and the shutter mirror hinges on these are plastic!

    Cheers,

    I have owned the 300d - 20d - 30d - 40d - all produce great images - the most important thing is the quality of the glass in front of the sensor!! - My fav of the lot is the 40d - superb camera, - go to [url]www.camerapricebuster.co.uk[/url] for deals - you can see pictures taken by all my cameras at [url]www.gypsyofthesky.co.uk[/url] - I bet you can't tell which camera took which picture!!
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