What on earth happened in Las Vegas - 50 dead!

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Found 2nd Oct 2017
LAS VEGAS, Nevada (KTRK) --In among the deadliest mass shootings in U.S. history, in excess of 50 people were killed when a gunman shot into a crowded music festival on the Las Vegas Strip.

Police say Stephen Paddock was the person they confronted on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel-casino after the barrage of shots were fired Sunday night. He was killed by police.

Las Vegas Metro police Sheriff Joe Lombardo said Paddock is believed to be the lone shooter. Police said he lived in Mesquite, Nevada, which is located outside of Las Vegas.

Police also said they located a person of interest believed to be Paddock's roommate.

More than 200 people were also injured in the shooting.

Among those killed were two off-duty officers attending the concert, said Lombardo. An officer working at the event was critically injured and another was wounded, according to the sheriff.

Police stated the city's largest hospital, University Medical Center, is at capacity with other trauma units taking in the overflow. Fleeing attendees were also being picked up on buses and being sent to UNLV's Thomas & Mack Center arena for shelter.

Video from festival attendees showed hundreds of people fleeing the area. The shooting took place as country artist Jason Aldean performed on stage.
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Killer described as "lone wolf" usually means its not "Islamist related terrorism".

Tragic all the same.
pinkleponkle1 h, 9 m ago

That’s because it isn’t, it’s a tragic event nevertheless but not an act of …That’s because it isn’t, it’s a tragic event nevertheless but not an act of terrorism.


In what world is a man firing a semi automatic weapon from a 32nd floor hotel room into a crowd of people NOT an act of terrorism?

Let's be clear here!

The State Of Nevada NRS 202.4415  “Act of terrorism” defined.


“Act of terrorism” means any act that involves the use or attempted use of sabotage, coercion or violence which is intended to: (a) Cause great bodily harm or death to the general population; or (b) Cause substantial destruction, contamination or impairment of: (1) Any building or infrastructure, communications, transportation, utilities or services; or (2) Any natural resource or the environment. 2.  As used in this section, “coercion” does not include an act of civil disobedience. (Added to NRS by 2003, 2947)
Edited by: "OllieSt" 2nd Oct 2017
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I stayed at the Tropicana a month ago and had a buffet in the Mandalay Bay. Having just been made aware of Nevada's ridiculous gun laws it's safe to say I won't be returning.

An absolute tragedy caused by American politics bowing down to the money/pressure of the NRA.
No mention of that in Trump's tweet.
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Dolphinzz3 m ago

Nice to know you can copy and paste


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Yet it's not defined as a terror attack, typical
Edited by: "fes37" 3rd Oct 2017
Killer described as "lone wolf" usually means its not "Islamist related terrorism".

Tragic all the same.
"...sound of what appeared to be prolonged automatic gunfire ..."

"The state does not ban assault weapons, which are automatic or semi-automatic firearms, and there are no limits on buying ammunition there."


bbc.co.uk/new…116

I wonder what the solution is to stop a mass shooting occurring in America every week


fes376 m ago

Yet it's no defined as a terror attack, typical


Unless there's a religious or political motivation, it's not defined as terrorism.
Edited by: "Al18" 2nd Oct 2017
fes377 m ago

Yet it's no defined as a terror attack, typical


That’s because it isn’t, it’s a tragic event nevertheless but not an act of terrorism.
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Dolphinzz29 m ago

Nice to know you can copy and paste


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pinkleponkle1 h, 9 m ago

That’s because it isn’t, it’s a tragic event nevertheless but not an act of …That’s because it isn’t, it’s a tragic event nevertheless but not an act of terrorism.


In what world is a man firing a semi automatic weapon from a 32nd floor hotel room into a crowd of people NOT an act of terrorism?

Let's be clear here!

The State Of Nevada NRS 202.4415  “Act of terrorism” defined.


“Act of terrorism” means any act that involves the use or attempted use of sabotage, coercion or violence which is intended to: (a) Cause great bodily harm or death to the general population; or (b) Cause substantial destruction, contamination or impairment of: (1) Any building or infrastructure, communications, transportation, utilities or services; or (2) Any natural resource or the environment. 2.  As used in this section, “coercion” does not include an act of civil disobedience. (Added to NRS by 2003, 2947)
Edited by: "OllieSt" 2nd Oct 2017
davewave16 m ago

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What sort of tone is this to set for your own thread, dave'. This is a terrible tragedy for a currently unknown number of victims and bereaved family members. R.I.P. and respects to all those innocent people at the concert
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fes3725 m ago

Yet it's no defined as a terror attack, typical


perhaps you meant to state 'its not defined as a terrorist attack.' just want to help you with grammar and spelling fella.
fes3743 m ago

Yet it's no defined as a terror attack, typical

I think they call it 'friendly fire' over there. What's interesting is that the guy managed to get more victims than a dedicated terrorist would have.
radium19 m ago

What's interesting is that the guy managed to get more victims than a …What's interesting is that the guy managed to get more victims than a dedicated terrorist would have.


Given the distance involved, and the rapidity of the gunfire, I would guess (?) that he was using some form of mounted military grade equipment and possibly had some military service background. What a truly awful world we are living in right now.
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radium33 m ago

I think they call it 'friendly fire' over there. What's interesting is …I think they call it 'friendly fire' over there. What's interesting is that the guy managed to get more victims than a dedicated terrorist would have.

They don't call it friendly fire over there! They in fact call it... a mass shooting.
Islamist terrorism has been sadly successful in killing random innocent people even on large numbers recent examples below.

62 people killed in Nigeria by Islamist terrorists in July 2015
224 people killed on a Russian plane from Egypt en route to St Petersburg
70+ people killed in Afghanistan Dec 2015. In the 2015 Kandahar Airport attacks several Taliban members attacked the Kandahar Airport and surrounding area. 70+ killed, 35 injured.
49 people were killed and 53 injured in a mass shooting at a nightclub in Orlando, Florida June 2016. The shooter, Omar Mateen, pledged allegiance to ISIL by specifically calling police and journalists several times during the incident.
Edited by: "davewave" 2nd Oct 2017
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WheresMeNuts8 m ago

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Below human. Hope he rots in hell.
Any motive given for tihs tragedy?
Abolutely horrendous.


So many lives stolen, and so many more lives thrown into a grief filled living hell - why?
It scares me how so many places in the USA allow you to carry semi automatic weapons; assault rifles and suchlike - even in public.
Take a look back at that recent Far Right rally, there were Nazis in tactical gear, walking around with assault rifles - openly - in a highly charged & emotive atmosphere full of people.

So many Americans seem to want to cling on to their right to bear arms because "in case of duh guberment".
Nonsense really given the amount of freedom Americans have lost since Sept 11, you'd think these hardcore militia types would have risen up by now to defend themselves from their government. It's just an excuse to carry weaponry.
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Destard19 m ago

Any motive given for tihs tragedy?

Dunno, take a look at the internet.
I spose he was far right. In America 10s of people get killed each day in shootouts but this was worst than any terrorist attack alone.
What do we do now, deport them?
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Destard6 m ago

It scares me how so many places in the USA allow you to carry semi …It scares me how so many places in the USA allow you to carry semi automatic weapons; assault rifles and suchlike - even in public.Take a look back at that recent Far Right rally, there were Nazis in tactical gear, walking around with assault rifles - openly - in a highly charged & emotive atmosphere full of people.So many Americans seem to want to cling on to their right to bear arms because "in case of duh guberment". Nonsense really given the amount of freedom Americans have lost since Sept 11, you'd think these hardcore militia types would have risen up by now to defend themselves from their government. It's just an excuse to carry weaponry.

September 11? How would stricter gun laws have prevented 9-11...are you being disrespectful on purpose?
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Misslovely1 m ago

I spose he was far right. In America 10s of people get killed each day in …I spose he was far right. In America 10s of people get killed each day in shootouts but this was worst than any terrorist attack alone.What do we do now, deport them?

Why would you suggest far right?
davewave5 m ago

September 11? How would stricter gun laws have prevented 9-11...are you …September 11? How would stricter gun laws have prevented 9-11...are you being disrespectful on purpose?


Dear Dave, are you deliberately misreading?
I really hope not as that would be very disappointing.
RIP all who died and speedy recovery to the injured.
davewave8 m ago

Dunno, take a look at the internet.


But Dave, you are the man to go to for the copy&paste stuff, hence thought you'd relish the opportunity for another bit of ctrl c / ctrl v action?
davewave10 m ago

September 11? How would stricter gun laws have prevented 9-11...are you …September 11? How would stricter gun laws have prevented 9-11...are you being disrespectful on purpose?


I would say did you even read the post but the question of being able to read should probably be levied first!?!
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I stayed at the Tropicana a month ago and had a buffet in the Mandalay Bay. Having just been made aware of Nevada's ridiculous gun laws it's safe to say I won't be returning.

An absolute tragedy caused by American politics bowing down to the money/pressure of the NRA.
No mention of that in Trump's tweet.
Of course, it's all down to uncontrolled mass immigration. Had the native Americans not had their country snatched away from them, Country and Western music would be unheard of over there. If only they had thought of building some kind of barrier around their country. But no, they got complacent and spent their time smoking peace pipes and constructing teepees.
DT892nd Oct 2017

I stayed at the Tropicana a month ago and had a buffet in the Mandalay …I stayed at the Tropicana a month ago and had a buffet in the Mandalay Bay. Having just been made aware of Nevada's ridiculous gun laws it's safe to say I won't be returning.An absolute tragedy caused by American politics bowing down to the money/pressure of the NRA.No mention of that in Trump's tweet.


This might help you plan your next US holiday
ISIS claim responsibility..


"The Las Vegas attacker is a soldier of the Islamic State in response to calls to target coalition countries," the terrorist organization said.

ISIS also claimed that the shooter "converted to Islam several months ago."

Link

Police say Paddock had a criminal record, but no known ties to terrorism.

While initial reports claimed Paddock was a recent convert to Islam, Clark County Sherrif Joseph Lombardo said he had no knowledge of Paddock's religious beliefs.

Paddock killed himself before police could apprehend him.
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Dawsy24 m ago

ISIS claim responsibility.."The Las Vegas attacker is a soldier of the …ISIS claim responsibility.."The Las Vegas attacker is a soldier of the Islamic State in response to calls to target coalition countries," the terrorist organization said.ISIS also claimed that the shooter "converted to Islam several months ago."LinkPolice say Paddock had a criminal record, but no known ties to terrorism.While initial reports claimed Paddock was a recent convert to Islam, Clark County Sherrif Joseph Lombardo said he had no knowledge of Paddock's religious beliefs.Paddock killed himself before police could apprehend him.


More controversy
davewave1 h, 48 m ago

Why would you suggest far right?


Because there's nothing the far right hate more than white country music fans.
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Rubisco13 m ago

Because there's nothing the far right hate more than white country music …Because there's nothing the far right hate more than white country music fans.

Yes, just what I was thinking
Woah woah hold yer horses. Two of the forum resident Daily Mail / rightwing crowd acknowledging the existence of the far-right?
Maybe there is some hope.
Maybe.
surely just another false flag CIA Mossad type of thing...I always check into hotels with a suitcase full of guns (especially a Travelodge)
The FBI has spoken with Eric Paddock, the brother of the gunman, at his home in central Florida. Paddock has also given a few interviews at greater length.

“He was my brother and it’s like an asteroid fell out of the sky,” Paddock told CNN. He said he last spoke to his brother when Stephen wanted to check in on their mother after Hurricane Irma.

Paddock expressed shock and horror to CBS that his brother could commit such a crime. He had “no religious affiliation, no political affiliation, he just hung out”, Paddock said.

“He’s not an avid gun guy at all. The fact that he had those kind of weapons is just – where the hell did he get automatic weapons? He has no military background or anything like that. He’s just a guy who lived in a house in Mesquite, drove down and gambled in Las Vegas. He did stuff. Ate burritos.”
mudddy2 h, 19 m ago

Because that's what most terrorists in America tend to be?


" It should be noted, however, that Islamist extremists killed more people overall, with a death toll of 90 people compared to 79."

Its kind of a fallacy, what they are talking about are crimes designated terror attacks, any attack by a banned white nationalist group is a terrorist attack. Burning crosses, spray painting swastikas, gang violence, burning black churches, bringing weapons across a state line. Based on that probably MS13 and the Crips and bloods are the worst terrorist groups in the US, however their friend are left to be dealt with by the civilian police, where as the FBI will designate a crime terrorism for the powers they can invoke and sentences they can hand down.
catbeans4 m ago

" "Its kind of a fallacy, what they are talking about are crimes …" "Its kind of a fallacy, what they are talking about are crimes designated terror attacks, any attack by a banned white nationalist group is a terrorist attack. Burning crosses, spray painting swastikas, gang violence, burning black churches, bringing weapons across a state line. Based on that probably MS13 and the Crips and bloods are the worst terrorist groups in the US, however their friend are left to be dealt with by the civilian police, where as the FBI will designate a crime terrorism for the powers they can invoke and sentences they can hand down.


Oh well, that makes it all okay then?
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