What PC's can I build this week - PC Builds - w/c 6th July 2020

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Posted 6th Jul 2020
Hi all,

We're back for a second week! Thankls to all of you who engaged last week.

All builds now use parametric filters that adjust in real time based on the prices of parts.

I've

helped a lot HUKD'ers over the years to build PCs, even some who

thought they'd never be able to do it. The general rule is, if you can

build a Lego model, or assemble IKEA you can build a PC. It's a hobby

I've loved since I was 6 years old when I was helped by my Dad to build

my first PC, and honestly I look back on it with happy memories.

I want to create a supportive community environment, based on facts about what is the best value for money this week.

I thought about how I could help and I've come up with:

"What can you build this week? PC thread"

So here we go, every week I'll post two to three tiers of PC builds (around £400 to £1500) for the following use cases:

  • Gaming PCs
  • Workstation PCs (Photo/Video Editing/CAD)
  • Home Theatre PCs (aka games console replacements)

Every

week we will cover what you can build along with recommendations for

what peripherals are on offer elsewhere on this site. I'll look for the

best deals I can, they'll all be correct at the time of posting and will

only be changed if something shoots up in price significantly. It's

also an open discussion help people new to the hobby and to help people

not get ripped off by poor value pre-built systems.

If you're after something more specialist you can always PM me.

This Week's Systems
Please note that none of these systems include Windows - more details on that below.

Gaming - Entry Level - uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…pwh

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£100.61 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: *ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£54.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: *Patriot Viper 4 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory (£37.13 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: *Toshiba P300 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.96 @ Laptops Direct)
Video Card: *XFX Radeon RX 570 8 GB Video Card (£137.25 @ Amazon UK)
Case: CiT F3 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£27.99 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: *Aerocool Integrator 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£32.99 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £426.92

About this machine:
This

is about the minimum I would recommend to get you away - there's still

plenty of headroom there though if you want to upgrade at a later date.

Think of this as a good place to start playing games at 1080p Low to

Medium settings. It should still give a better gaming experience than

the current consoles.

Would make a good Minecraft or Fortnite machine for kids. It would also make a solid family PC.

Pros:
  • It's cheap
  • It's easy to assemble
  • Upgrades will be super easy
  • 1TB of storage for your games
Cons:
  • The RX 570 is getting a bit old now
  • No SSD
  • Case is a bit plasticy

Gaming - Mid Tier - uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…vyk

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3300X 3.8 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£119.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: *Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£65.98 @ Laptops Direct)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL20 Memory (£71.49 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: *Kingston A2000 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£40.31 @ BT Shop)
Storage: *Toshiba P300 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.96 @ Laptops Direct)
Video Card: *Palit GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB StormX Video Card (£294.37 @ CCL Computers)
Case: *Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£45.46 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: *EVGA BQ 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£64.34 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £737.90

About this machine:
Upgrade

on the entry level - this is a solid 1440p desktop gaming machine.

Gives you headroom, as PC Part Picker will flip between the 2060/2060S

and 5700/5700XT depending on prices. Very little performance difference

between them really in the real world - AMDs GPU drivers are still awful

though.

Pros:
  • Will play most games at 1440p just fine
  • Has faster storage
  • Much better case quality and brand
  • Much better motherboard
  • More expandability
Cons:
  • CPU on the weaker side for things like rendering etc - but fine for gaming
  • SSD isn't the biggest or the fastest

Gaming - Top Tier - uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…WQq

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor (£250.56 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: *be quiet! Pure Rock 51.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£32.34 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: *Asus PRIME B550M-K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£113.90 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: *Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL17 Memory (£73.56 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: *Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£99.98 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: *Toshiba P300 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.96 @ Laptops Direct)
Video Card: *Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card (£650.00 @ Amazon UK)
Case: *Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£45.46 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: *EVGA BQ 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£64.34 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: Cooler Master MasterFan MF120 Halo 3-in-1 47.2 CFM 120 mm Fans (£42.69 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £1408.79

About this machine:
An

all out 1440p high settings, 4K mid settings gaming machine. A decent

case with a window, and includes high performance RGB case fans too.

Pros:
  • Excellent all-rounder
  • Very solid gaming machine
  • Good looking and fairly quiet
Cons:
  • Getting expensive at this point

Workstation - Entry Level - uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…73t

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£143.55 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: *ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£54.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: *PNY Anarchy-X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£61.98 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: *Kingston A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£29.62 @ MyMemory)
Storage: *Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£48.39 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: *PNY GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB XLR8 Gaming Overclocked Edition Video Card (£129.99 @ Currys PC World Business)
Case: *Thermaltake Versa H17 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£32.43 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: *Aerocool Integrator 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£32.99 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £533.94

About this machine:
Good productivity machine that can do a little gaming - will do 3D renders and video encoding reasonably well for a hobbyist.
Pros:
  • Lots of cores
Cons:
  • Weak GPU - only really needed for display output - can could do some basic gaming.

Workstation - Mid Tier - uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…cDx

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor (£282.01 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: *Asus PRIME B550M-K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£113.90 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory (£158.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: *Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£99.98 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: *Toshiba X300 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£99.02 @ BT Shop)
Video Card: *PNY GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB XLR8 Gaming Overclocked Edition Video Card (£129.99 @ Currys PC World Business)
Case: *Silverstone PS09B MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£40.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: *EVGA BQ 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£64.34 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £988.70

About this machine:
Excellent video editing machine, should have no issue at all with 4K video production.
Pros:
  • Lots and lots of cores
Cons:
  • Storage might be a little low for 4K editing - depends on workload
  • Weak GPU - only really needed for display output

Workstation - Top Tier - uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…s3t

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor (£680.26 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: *be quiet! Pure Rock 51.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£32.34 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: *ASRock X570M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£183.48 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: *Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£118.65 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: *Sabrent Rocket Q 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£219.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Toshiba P300 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£51.97 @ Laptops Direct)
Storage: Toshiba P300 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£51.97 @ Laptops Direct)
Video Card: *PNY GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB XLR8 Gaming Overclocked Edition Video Card (£129.99 @ Currys PC World Business)
Case: *Fractal Design Core 1300 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£44.95 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: *EVGA BQ 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£64.34 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: *be quiet! Pure Wings 2 120 PWM 87 CFM 120 mm Fan (£8.10 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: *be quiet! Pure Wings 2 120 PWM 87 CFM 120 mm Fan (£8.10 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1594.14

About this machine:
Amazing 4K video editing machine
Pros:
  • Lots and lots and lots of cores
Cons:
  • Weak GPU - only really needed for display output

HTPC - Entry Level - uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…qZf

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£100.61 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: *Biostar X470NH Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard (£85.10 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: *Patriot Viper 4 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory (£37.13 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: *Kingston A2000 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£40.31 @ BT Shop)
Video Card: *PNY GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB Video Card (£156.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Silverstone SG13 Mini ITX Tower Case (£39.95 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: *Silverstone 300 W 80+ Bronze Certified SFX Power Supply (£59.29 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £519.38

About this machine:
Small,

cool, and quiet. This mITX chasis is really easy to build in for first

timers. Not a bad little 4K video playback or 1080p gaming entry level

machine. Pair with a controller and do some lounge gaming.
Pros:
  • Cheap entry into lounge PC gaming
Cons:
  • GPU is weak - you'll soon find yourself wanting more
  • Although a better mITX chasis for first timers it's still harder than a mATX or ATX case to build in

HTPC - Mid Tier - uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…6tp

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3300X 3.8 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£119.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: *ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard (£112.17 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: *Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL17 Memory (£73.56 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: *Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£99.98 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: *Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card (£373.98 @ Aria PC)
Case: Silverstone SG13 Mini ITX Tower Case (£39.95 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: *EVGA BQ 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£64.34 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £883.97

About this machine:
Really capable entry-level 4K 30fps lounge gaming PC.
Pros:
  • Very cheap entry into 4K lounge gaming
Cons:
  • Although a better mITX chasis for first timers it's still harder than a mATX or ATX case to build in

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Excellent post! I'm looking at getting a 3700x for mid to high tier gaming. Would you recommend a b450 or b550 as I'm not really bothered about upgrading my cpu when the next zen processors release. The way I see it, when you come round to upgrading your cpu, most people just sell there old one as a bundle and besides newer motherboards are out by then. What would you say is a solid motherboard?
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gulfaraz06/07/2020 16:14

Excellent post! I'm looking at getting a 3700x for mid to high tier …Excellent post! I'm looking at getting a 3700x for mid to high tier gaming. Would you recommend a b450 or b550 as I'm not really bothered about upgrading my cpu when the next zen processors release. The way I see it, when you come round to upgrading your cpu, most people just sell there old one as a bundle and besides newer motherboards are out by then. What would you say is a solid motherboard?



Depends if you're bothered by having PCIe Gen 4 or not.

I'd say if you're overclocking you're better skipping B550 and going X570.

Personally I like MSI and Gigabyte, not a fan of ASUS as their warranties are worthless as they're terrible to deal with.
Thanks pal
I've noticed for a mid tier gaming pc. Graphic card rtx 2060super is more expensive and have a few FPS less than palit rtx 2070. Is there something seriously wrong with palit or it just underestimated brand?
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ace.venturaa06/07/2020 17:28

I've noticed for a mid tier gaming pc. Graphic card rtx 2060super is more …I've noticed for a mid tier gaming pc. Graphic card rtx 2060super is more expensive and have a few FPS less than palit rtx 2070. Is there something seriously wrong with palit or it just underestimated brand?


Not really, but PC Part Picker doesn’t have all the latest deals.

If you’re gonna actually build anything discuss it here first
My current pc has i5 6600k overclocked to 4.2GHz. It's currently paired with a Vega 56 and 16gb of ram at 2300mhz. I'm thinking it would need to upgrade the CPU to keep up with modern games in the near future. What would you recommend?
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col24_706/07/2020 20:00

My current pc has i5 6600k overclocked to 4.2GHz. It's currently paired …My current pc has i5 6600k overclocked to 4.2GHz. It's currently paired with a Vega 56 and 16gb of ram at 2300mhz. I'm thinking it would need to upgrade the CPU to keep up with modern games in the near future. What would you recommend?


Ehh you’re not really limited there, your GPU is still the weak point.

If you had something like a 2080 that would be another matter.
deleted55525206/07/2020 20:09

Ehh you’re not really limited there, your GPU is still the weak point.If y …Ehh you’re not really limited there, your GPU is still the weak point.If you had something like a 2080 that would be another matter.

Some games I see 99% CPU usage just thought it would maybe become a problem sooner
Ollie87 my son loves playing rust but his pc is minimum requirements it's about 6 years old and has gtx 660 i7 32 ram he has managed to save 300 for new pc could you recommend a build that's near his budget maybe 450
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justin_henderson06/07/2020 20:08

Ollie87 my son loves playing rust but his pc is minimum requirements it's …Ollie87 my son loves playing rust but his pc is minimum requirements it's about 6 years old and has gtx 660 i7 32 ram he has managed to save 300 for new pc could you recommend a build that's near his budget maybe 450


You’ll struggle to get much cheaper than the cheapest build and have a better experience. What about selling the parts from the old pc on eBay to help fund?
col24_706/07/2020 20:14

Some games I see 99% CPU usage just thought it would maybe become a …Some games I see 99% CPU usage just thought it would maybe become a problem sooner


Better waiting and saving your money to do a full upgrade really.
Well I'm looking for best possible gaming pc under 1k. I managed to snap good monitor so I want something for 1440p gaming. 2070 super is probably my limit for gpu. I would appreciate if anyone could help me to buy it
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ace.venturaa06/07/2020 20:33

Well I'm looking for best possible gaming pc under 1k. I managed to snap …Well I'm looking for best possible gaming pc under 1k. I managed to snap good monitor so I want something for 1440p gaming. 2070 super is probably my limit for gpu. I would appreciate if anyone could help me to buy it


The absolute best under £1000 right now?

PCPartPicker Part List: uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…MWb

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£149.65 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid Lite 240 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£43.55 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: *Gigabyte B450M H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£58.76 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: *Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL17 Memory (£73.56 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Kingston A2000 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£40.31 @ BT Shop)
Storage: *Toshiba P300 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.96 @ Laptops Direct)
Video Card: *Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING OC 3X Video Card (£480.89 @ Amazon UK)
Case: CiT Seven MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£35.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£69.99 @ Currys PC World)
Total: £988.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-06 21:45 BST+0100

Some might say the 3600 is a little weak, but if your main focus is gaming you should always spend more on the GPU.
Hi I've been spending all day trying to find parts to build my first gaming pc and have come up with the following on Pcparts. I just found this thread and was wondering if you could check if this would be okay? I don't have a desire to play next gen games as I'll have the new console for that. I just want to play this gens and older games (with some graphics enhancing mods). The total price came to £724. pcpartpicker.com/lis…hzN
Thanks in advance
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JS269706/07/2020 22:26

Hi I've been spending all day trying to find parts to build my first …Hi I've been spending all day trying to find parts to build my first gaming pc and have come up with the following on Pcparts. I just found this thread and was wondering if you could check if this would be okay? I don't have a desire to play next gen games as I'll have the new console for that. I just want to play this gens and older games (with some graphics enhancing mods). The total price came to £724. pcpartpicker.com/list/KF8hzNThanks in advance


Just FYI looks like you’ve used the US site and not the uk one.

If you’re only gaming drop to the 3300X and spend more on your GPU
deleted55525206/07/2020 22:38

Just FYI looks like you’ve used the US site and not the uk one.If you’re on …Just FYI looks like you’ve used the US site and not the uk one.If you’re only gaming drop to the 3300X and spend more on your GPU


Ah yeah, I've just been tracking the parts separately from PCparts also for UK prices etc.

Okay, I'll drop the processor down a bit an look for a better graphics card.

Thanks very much
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The absolute best under £1000 right now?PCPartPicker Part List: …The absolute best under £1000 right now?PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZPWMWbCPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£149.65 @ Amazon UK) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid Lite 240 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£43.55 @ CCL Computers) Motherboard: *Gigabyte B450M H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£58.76 @ CCL Computers) Memory: *Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL17 Memory (£73.56 @ CCL Computers) Storage: Kingston A2000 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£40.31 @ BT Shop) Storage: *Toshiba P300 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.96 @ Laptops Direct) Video Card: *Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING OC 3X Video Card (£480.89 @ Amazon UK) Case: CiT Seven MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£35.47 @ Scan.co.uk) Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£69.99 @ Currys PC World) Total: £988.14Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteriaGenerated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-06 21:45 BST+0100Some might say the 3600 is a little weak, but if your main focus is gaming you should always spend more on the GPU.

Thanks. Performance wise 3300x and 3600 seems very close. Shouldn't be better option get 3300 and later upgrade it to something better?
The processor is £160 on Amazon not £150 the £150 one is off a dodgy seller with 55% positive feedback and the 2070 also linked is not Amazon but a seller but 1 negative feedback and no positive

And another bit of information that board will need a bios update for the 3600 to work which requires a older processor to update
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ace.venturaa06/07/2020 23:07

Thanks. Performance wise 3300x and 3600 seems very close. Shouldn't be …Thanks. Performance wise 3300x and 3600 seems very close. Shouldn't be better option get 3300 and later upgrade it to something better?


Yeah you could do that. That’s if you’re just gaming, if doing anything else with your computer stick with the 3600
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darkclouds06/07/2020 23:44

The processor is £160 on Amazon not £150 the £150 one is off a dodgy se …The processor is £160 on Amazon not £150 the £150 one is off a dodgy seller with 55% positive feedback and the 2070 also linked is not Amazon but a seller but 1 negative feedback and no positive And another bit of information that board will need a bios update for the 3600 to work which requires a older processor to update


Part lists are using the filters set to pick parts, if it picks a dodgy seller I can’t really help that, that’s why I ask people to discuss their builds before they buy them.

Also if you can find a B450 board brand new now that doesn’t have the latest Zen 2 supporting BIOS already installed I’d be shocked.
Hey Ollie - any thoughts on the "AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz, ASUS TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS (WI-FI) Motherboard CPU Bundle" at AWD-IT? £325, but if I'm understanding right it would be eligible for £65 total cashback bringing it to £260... that seems pretty decent for that combo to me? I would be pairing it with the Zotac 1660super from the Amazon.es deal yesterday, in a BeQuiet 600... haven't got any RAM or other bits yet do would buy to suit. Decent plan or is a better motherboard option likely to come up if I wait a week or two?

Thanks in advance!
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bazpoint07/07/2020 12:23

Hey Ollie - any thoughts on the "AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz, ASUS …Hey Ollie - any thoughts on the "AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz, ASUS TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS (WI-FI) Motherboard CPU Bundle" at AWD-IT? £325, but if I'm understanding right it would be eligible for £65 total cashback bringing it to £260... that seems pretty decent for that combo to me? I would be pairing it with the Zotac 1660super from the Amazon.es deal yesterday, in a BeQuiet 600... haven't got any RAM or other bits yet do would buy to suit. Decent plan or is a better motherboard option likely to come up if I wait a week or two?Thanks in advance!



3600 is a solid CPU but it's no better than the 3300X for gaming. Also the B550 boards are expensive, for most people they don't offer anything over B450 (PCIe 4.0) is fine and all but GPUs are mostly 3.0, and they can't even saturate the bandwidth of 16x PCIe 3.0 yet.

Seems a lot of money to spend to pair with something as weak as the 1660 Super. Especially when a 3300X and a reasonable Gigabyte B450 board is well under £200.
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deleted55525207/07/2020 12:28

3600 is a solid CPU but it's no better than the 3300X for gaming. Also the …3600 is a solid CPU but it's no better than the 3300X for gaming. Also the B550 boards are expensive, for most people they don't offer anything over B450 (PCIe 4.0) is fine and all but GPUs are mostly 3.0, and they can't even saturate the bandwidth of 16x PCIe 3.0 yet.Seems a lot of money to spend to pair with something as weak as the 1660 Super. Especially when a 3300X and a reasonable Gigabyte B450 board is well under £200.


Cool, just the sort of advice I needed, thanks. May still stick with the 3600 if it drops back down a little in the near future, but will look at B450 options. Cheers!
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bazpoint07/07/2020 12:39

Cool, just the sort of advice I needed, thanks. May still stick with the …Cool, just the sort of advice I needed, thanks. May still stick with the 3600 if it drops back down a little in the near future, but will look at B450 options. Cheers!



Only worth getting the 3600 if you're gonna be doing things like video editing etc. As the 3300X is much better value for gaming.

Might be worth reading this: techspot.com/art…ng/
deleted55525207/07/2020 12:57

Only worth getting the 3600 if you're gonna be doing things like video …Only worth getting the 3600 if you're gonna be doing things like video editing etc. As the 3300X is much better value for gaming.Might be worth reading this: https://www.techspot.com/article/2051-ryzen-3300x-vs-3600-gaming/


Useful read, thanks
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The absolute best under £1000 right now?PCPartPicker Part List: …The absolute best under £1000 right now?PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZPWMWbCPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£149.65 @ Amazon UK) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid Lite 240 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£43.55 @ CCL Computers) Motherboard: *Gigabyte B450M H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£58.76 @ CCL Computers) Memory: *Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL17 Memory (£73.56 @ CCL Computers) Storage: Kingston A2000 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£40.31 @ BT Shop) Storage: *Toshiba P300 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.96 @ Laptops Direct) Video Card: *Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING OC 3X Video Card (£480.89 @ Amazon UK) Case: CiT Seven MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£35.47 @ Scan.co.uk) Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£69.99 @ Currys PC World) Total: £988.14Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteriaGenerated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-06 21:45 BST+0100Some might say the 3600 is a little weak, but if your main focus is gaming you should always spend more on the GPU.


hotukdeals.com/dea…e=1 this seems like a good deal today. Would it effect this box a set up in any way? -30£ could be spent on better CPU.
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ace.venturaa07/07/2020 18:09

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/thermaltake-v200-rgb-tempered-glass-pc-case-comes-with-a-tt-550w-super-silent-psu-3x-rgb-fans-7999-with-free-delivery-at-scan-3500778?page=1#comments-last this seems like a good deal today. Would it effect this box a set up in any way? -30£ could be spent on better CPU.


Full size rather than matx, wouldn’t really change much other than being a much bigger case
@ollie87 looking for some advice on a GPU, new build being put together and have a ryzen 3600 16gb ram 450m mb 500w psu, 250 ssd, 1tb hdd and wondered what would be a good graphics card to stick in it. Will be used for very light 3d rendering animation by 10 year old daughter and gaming for both of us, (1080). Not looking to spend a fortune, approx 200. Have ordered a new msi gtx 1650 super (ventus OC if that a difference) for £160 and its in its way but just wondering if there's a better option and return the 1650s? Any thoughts, thanks in advance
dea8113/07/2020 10:43

@ollie87 looking for some advice on a GPU, new build being put together …@ollie87 looking for some advice on a GPU, new build being put together and have a ryzen 3600 16gb ram 450m mb 500w psu, 250 ssd, 1tb hdd and wondered what would be a good graphics card to stick in it. Will be used for very light 3d rendering animation by 10 year old daughter and gaming for both of us, (1080). Not looking to spend a fortune, approx 200. Have ordered a new msi gtx 1650 super (ventus OC if that a difference) for £160 and its in its way but just wondering if there's a better option and return the 1650s? Any thoughts, thanks in advance


The next step up from the 1650S would be the 1660S for around £220 and it's a fairly big step up. If this is a "stopgap" purchase in that you plan to upgrade to a higher end option in the next couple of years, then the 1650S would probably be fine to stick with until then. If you plan on using this card long term, it's worth stretching that little extra over your 200 budget for the additional longevity you'll get out of it.

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ElGofre13/07/2020 11:35

The next step up from the 1650S would be the 1660S for around £220 and …The next step up from the 1650S would be the 1660S for around £220 and it's a fairly big step up. If this is a "stopgap" purchase in that you plan to upgrade to a higher end option in the next couple of years, then the 1650S would probably be fine to stick with until then. If you plan on using this card long term, it's worth stretching that little extra over your 200 budget for the additional longevity you'll get out of it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlqhmgZCVNw


Yeah, it's kind of what I was thinking, it probably wouldn't get upgraded for a while and spending the £60 now and getting the benefit of it now along with it lasting a couple of years longer then the 1650s makes sense,
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dea8113/07/2020 11:43

Yeah, it's kind of what I was thinking, it probably wouldn't get upgraded …Yeah, it's kind of what I was thinking, it probably wouldn't get upgraded for a while and spending the £60 now and getting the benefit of it now along with it lasting a couple of years longer then the 1650s makes sense,


I'd say that the 1660 Super is a vastly better option if you can afford it.
Hi, need some advice!

Im looking to build a gaming pc, 1080p at first but then 1440p later. Budget is around 400 for all parts excl graphics card.

I’ve got an old Xeon W3680 paired with a 1060 3gb atm.

Looking at a 3300x as the cpu – seems to be oos everywhere but im not in a rush. I’m planning on getting a used rtx 2060 off ebay as prices come down. These are the bits have chosen so far but I’m flexible:

uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…bJb

Is this build ok? And I’m not sure about what Case to choose, I’d like something reasonable small and quiet?
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evilkaz14/07/2020 11:54

Hi, need some advice!Im looking to build a gaming pc, 1080p at first but …Hi, need some advice!Im looking to build a gaming pc, 1080p at first but then 1440p later. Budget is around 400 for all parts excl graphics card.I’ve got an old Xeon W3680 paired with a 1060 3gb atm.Looking at a 3300x as the cpu – seems to be oos everywhere but im not in a rush. I’m planning on getting a used rtx 2060 off ebay as prices come down. These are the bits have chosen so far but I’m flexible:https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/4CCbJbIs this build ok? And I’m not sure about what Case to choose, I’d like something reasonable small and quiet?



Yeah no issues there. If you want small and quiet take a look at what Coolermaster make.

Maybe something like a Silencio S400, it's expensive but it's a very well made and quiet case that should see you through several builds in the next 10 years.
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deleted55525214/07/2020 11:57

Yeah no issues there. If you want small and quiet take a look at what …Yeah no issues there. If you want small and quiet take a look at what Coolermaster make.Maybe something like a Silencio S400, it's expensive but it's a very well made and quiet case that should see you through several builds in the next 10 years.


Thanks. I've had a look at the silencio and its a bit out of my budget. Have you heard about the Cooler Master MasterBox 5 ? I like the look of it.
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evilkaz15/07/2020 13:06

Thanks. I've had a look at the silencio and its a bit out of my budget. …Thanks. I've had a look at the silencio and its a bit out of my budget. Have you heard about the Cooler Master MasterBox 5 ? I like the look of it.



Masterbox 5 is MASSIVE.

If you want small a full size ATX case is the opposite of that.
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Masterbox 5 is MASSIVE.If you want small a full size ATX case is the …Masterbox 5 is MASSIVE.If you want small a full size ATX case is the opposite of that.


Oh lol thanks. I need to do some more research!
Hey Ollie, thanks for writing these guides up! I've just stumbled across them from reading one of your comments and I find your posts really informative - thank you for sharing them.

I've got a build using Ryzen 5 3600 + 1660 Super and I wondered what is a suitable motherboard and PSU that you can recommend for the current UK market that gives the best value-to-performance ratio?

I won't be overclocking much as the PC is used for work during the week (office stuff, a bit of 3D rendering, a bit of photoshop) and during the weekends will do some casual gaming.

I was wondering about a B450 Aorus Elite which seems to be quite good value at the moment but unsure about PSU options. A little worried about some B450 motherboards which don't come Ryzen 3000 ready as well. I have an ATX case with tempered glass panel so would be looking for an ATX sized motherboard as well so it looks good in the case. Preferably a motherboard that costs below £90.

Would be keen to hear your thoughts on this which would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your help!
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affectionatekitten21/07/2020 22:30

Hey Ollie, thanks for writing these guides up! I've just stumbled across …Hey Ollie, thanks for writing these guides up! I've just stumbled across them from reading one of your comments and I find your posts really informative - thank you for sharing them.I've got a build using Ryzen 5 3600 + 1660 Super and I wondered what is a suitable motherboard and PSU that you can recommend for the current UK market that gives the best value-to-performance ratio?I won't be overclocking much as the PC is used for work during the week (office stuff, a bit of 3D rendering, a bit of photoshop) and during the weekends will do some casual gaming.I was wondering about a B450 Aorus Elite which seems to be quite good value at the moment but unsure about PSU options. A little worried about some B450 motherboards which don't come Ryzen 3000 ready as well. I have an ATX case with tempered glass panel so would be looking for an ATX sized motherboard as well so it looks good in the case. Preferably a motherboard that costs below £90.Would be keen to hear your thoughts on this which would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your help!


PSUs just stick to known brands with either Gold or Platinum ratings. I won’t recommend any as such as prices and availability are poor at the moment and things are changing so much.

As for motherboards I’ll say what I say to most people, there’s not a lot between them now really, it’s not the 90s any more. Grab something from a big brand if you’re inexperienced, if you’re not overclocking and not going to make use of PCIe 4.0 just get a B450 motherboard. Personally I like Gigabyte.
Hey Ollie87, I would appreciate an advise about building a home server using the following.


CPU AMD Ryzen 3 3200g Integrated graphics: Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics £75
Motherboard Asus TUF B450 plus £89.99
Corsair 2x8 GB DDR4 3200 ram C16 dual channel £60.5
Kingston 240gb SSD £25
no GPU (possibly adding one in the future)
4TB iron wolf NAS HDD £103
pc case around £40
PSU around £50 for 600w
Total about £444

I want to use it mainly to store files, possibly to stream 4k videos in local network in the future. Add more NAS hard drives to edit 4k movies. Will that be ok to start with?
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Hey Ollie87, I would appreciate an advise about building a home server …Hey Ollie87, I would appreciate an advise about building a home server using the following. CPU AMD Ryzen 3 3200g Integrated graphics: Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics £75 Motherboard Asus TUF B450 plus £89.99Corsair 2x8 GB DDR4 3200 ram C16 dual channel £60.5Kingston 240gb SSD £25no GPU (possibly adding one in the future)4TB iron wolf NAS HDD £103pc case around £40 PSU around £50 for 600wTotal about £444I want to use it mainly to store files, possibly to stream 4k videos in local network in the future. Add more NAS hard drives to edit 4k movies. Will that be ok to start with?



If you're buliding a server wouldn't you be better off with a case like this?

mini-itx.com/~NAS6


A mITX board with a low power CPU (just make sure it's got 6 SATA ports).

Something like this:

PCPartPicker Part List: uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…b3t

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£131.58 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard (£109.97 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£60.08 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Transcend 110S 256 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£36.81 @ More Computers)
Storage: Toshiba X300 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£95.48 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Toshiba X300 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£95.48 @ Amazon UK)
Custom: MZHOU PCIe SATA Card 8 Port, PCIe to SATA Controller Expansion Card, 8 Gbps SATA 3.0 PCIe Card with 8 SATA Cables, Marvell 88SE9215 + JMicron JMB5xx 8-Port Chip, Support for HDD or SSD (£45.99 @ Amazon UK)
Custom: NAS6 Mini-ITX NAS Chassis with 6x Removable HDD Bays and 350W PSU (£154.80)
Total: £730.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-25 17:23 BST+0100

Feel free to tweak. But you've got a small (HP MicroServer sized) server with space for six hot-swappable hard disks. You could do it cheaper if you went for an Intel build (there are Intel mITX boards with enough onboard SATA you wouldn't need an extra card). Intel's platform also allows you to use cheaper memory without too much of a performance hit compared to AMD.

PCPartPicker Part List: uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…xwh

CPU: *Intel Pentium Gold G5400 3.7 GHz Dual-Core Processor (£53.90 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock H370M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard (£115.59 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: *ADATA XPG GAMMIX D10 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 CL16 Memory (£54.77 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: *Transcend 110S 256 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£36.81 @ More Computers)
Storage: Toshiba X300 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£95.48 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Toshiba X300 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£95.48 @ Amazon UK)
Custom: NAS6 Mini-ITX NAS Chassis with 6x Removable HDD Bays and 350W PSU (£154.80)
Total: £606.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-25 17:27 BST+0100

Personally I'd build the Intel one but get a used i5-9400 from eBay or somewhere.

Also not sure why you'd want a GPU in a home server?
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If you're buliding a server wouldn't you be better off with a case like …If you're buliding a server wouldn't you be better off with a case like this?https://www.mini-itx.com/~NAS6A mITX board with a low power CPU (just make sure it's got 6 SATA ports).Something like this:PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/qHfb3tCPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£131.58 @ Aria PC) Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard (£109.97 @ CCL Computers) Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£60.08 @ Amazon UK) Storage: Transcend 110S 256 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£36.81 @ More Computers) Storage: Toshiba X300 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£95.48 @ Amazon UK) Storage: Toshiba X300 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£95.48 @ Amazon UK) Custom: MZHOU PCIe SATA Card 8 Port, PCIe to SATA Controller Expansion Card, 8 Gbps SATA 3.0 PCIe Card with 8 SATA Cables, Marvell 88SE9215 + JMicron JMB5xx 8-Port Chip, Support for HDD or SSD (£45.99 @ Amazon UK) Custom: NAS6 Mini-ITX NAS Chassis with 6x Removable HDD Bays and 350W PSU (£154.80)Total: £730.19Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-25 17:23 BST+0100Feel free to tweak. But you've got a small (HP MicroServer sized) server with space for six hot-swappable hard disks. You could do it cheaper if you went for an Intel build (there are Intel mITX boards with enough onboard SATA you wouldn't need an extra card). Intel's platform also allows you to use cheaper memory without too much of a performance hit compared to AMD.PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/GJ7xwhCPU: *Intel Pentium Gold G5400 3.7 GHz Dual-Core Processor (£53.90 @ CCL Computers) Motherboard: ASRock H370M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard (£115.59 @ Amazon UK) Memory: *ADATA XPG GAMMIX D10 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 CL16 Memory (£54.77 @ Amazon UK) Storage: *Transcend 110S 256 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£36.81 @ More Computers) Storage: Toshiba X300 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£95.48 @ Amazon UK) Storage: Toshiba X300 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£95.48 @ Amazon UK) Custom: NAS6 Mini-ITX NAS Chassis with 6x Removable HDD Bays and 350W PSU (£154.80)Total: £606.83Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteriaGenerated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-25 17:27 BST+0100Personally I'd build the Intel one but get a used i5-9400 from eBay or somewhere.Also not sure why you'd want a GPU in a home server?



Nice one, thanks I will check it out.
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