What the HELL are the Masons

As the Title says really! Heard my dad and father talking about them but dont really have a clue what they are. Everytime i ask questions they just say they`ll tell me when im old enough. When i ask them when am i old enough they just say when you can Kill a goat with your hands. Found all my fathers Knights templer certs aswell. In the Da Vinci Code theres all the sex sacrifice and dont really want to think of my 60 odd year old father being a part of anything like this

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They are basically a group of business men who, seek to further each own's interests, they are kinda similar to a small scale church if you like

ever heard of wikipedia.com? its very handy!

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thej;2326541

shhhhhhhhhhh:whistling:



thats not very nice!!!!!:?

They are a load of people who have a secret hand shake!!!

Original Poster

sounds ****! Wouldnt wanna do my secret handshake in public:oops:

They do an awful lot for charity!

hannah19790;2326712

They do an awful lot for charity!


and for each other:whistling:

When people are talking about Masons, i always visualise Homer Simpson in the Stonecutters!
I know a few people in the masons and they seem to give a lot of money to charity.

Original Poster

Amazing episode!
youve got the song stuck in my head now tho!

Remove the Shone of Shame.
Woo hoo!
Attach the Stone of Triumph!
D'oh!

They do give lots to charity, they don't seek publicity and some people dissaprove because it is a "secret" society. To have rules that include putting your family above all else and helping others in need can't be all bad. As with any organisation there are good and bad.

No, there are Lady Mason lodges as well......my first baby was delivered by one!!!

wendyak;2341191

No, there are Lady Mason lodges as well......my first baby was delivered … No, there are Lady Mason lodges as well......my first baby was delivered by one!!!



was P&P included?

toconn;2326544

They are basically a group of business men who, seek to further each … They are basically a group of business men who, seek to further each own's interests, they are kinda similar to a small scale church if you like


They are not all business men - they come from all walks of life. I very much doubt they seek to further each others interests in the way you possibly think. While this may or has gone on, it is no different to any organisation or club where you will try help your mates out. There are even people on here who would help you if you asked them.
They are a non monotheseistic organisation - ie. Anyone from any religion can join..In fact it is part of the ethos that politics or religion are not discussed as they are immotive to people from different backgrounds and parts of the world.
AugQX;2326560

ever heard of wikipedia.com? its very handy!


And google :-D
hannah19790;2326712

They do an awful lot for charity!


Yes..I think that is probably the main thrust of their activities in modern times - a bit like the Rotary.
twinks;2327072

It's a group of men only, a bit like a sect, and they all bend over and … It's a group of men only, a bit like a sect, and they all bend over and oblige seriously they are like a sect and a secret sect that have a certain handshake or something and basically all help each other up the ladder of success, plenty of favours ;-)


There are male and female Masons (and the Eastern Star). It is no sect. Bend over :? - Possibly if they drop something:p. Everyone talks of 'The Handshake'..so what? It is simply a means of one Mason recognising another without having to discuss it. People wear badges, pins, football tops even to say they belong to a certain group in society. Any difference? Favours? - see above!
wendyak;2327074

They do give lots to charity, they don't seek publicity and some people … They do give lots to charity, they don't seek publicity and some people dissaprove because it is a "secret" society. To have rules that include putting your family above all else and helping others in need can't be all bad. As with any organisation there are good and bad.



Completely agree Wendy. Loads of charitable work with no self promotion. It is not really a secret society. Everyone knows they exist. The Masonic Lodges in any town are clearly evident and notification of the meetings are publicly announced weekly in local newspapers. Yes there are 'secrets' and if you did enough research you could probably find out what they were. When you do, you may possibly think what a load of nonsence - that is everyones right. They probably only mean something to those who have elected to become part of the organisation. Yes it is all about family and helping others in need as well as other moral values. Yes there are good and bad as in any organisation but I think the former far outweigh the latter. Freemasonry has had to evolve with the times and still is. A lot of misconceptions are generated and undoubtedly this is brought about by people misinterpreting the 'secrecy'.

OP - If you are seriously interested, I am sure if you asked your Dad he would be willing to speak to you about it. If not Google what you want to find out. :roll:

Sorry about the essay...but for a change this is something I feel strongly enough about to post.

Took me ages to find the flippin thread again...:roll: In answer to the question - I am as good at Googleing as anyone else :lol:

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Rockhound;2833043

Took me ages to find the flippin thread again...:roll: In answer to the … Took me ages to find the flippin thread again...:roll: In answer to the question - I am as good at Googleing as anyone else :lol:



Congratulations

Same thing, they have many Police Officers and Magistrates amongst their members, I leave you to consider the implications of that.:whistling:

:whistling:

Inactive;2833226

Same thing, they have many Police Officers and Magistrates amongst their … Same thing, they have many Police Officers and Magistrates amongst their members, I leave you to consider the implications of that.:whistling:



I vaugley know what the freemasons get up to. In my area a guys business got shut down one day due to failing health & safety regulations. The police were called (not sure why) and spent all night cleaning out the place. The next day everything they took was returned and the health and safety people as well as a police officer all apologised to the guy. :w00t:

I wouldn't mind being part of the freemasons. :-D

Inactive;2833226

Same thing, they have many Police Officers and Magistrates amongst their … Same thing, they have many Police Officers and Magistrates amongst their members, I leave you to consider the implications of that.:whistling:



Fair cop :thumbsup:

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pcnutta;2833260

:whistling:



Are you in the masons, pc nutta?

toconn;2326544

They are basically a group of business men who, seek to further each … They are basically a group of business men who, seek to further each own's interests, they are kinda similar to a small scale church if you like



My old man is a member of the masons in his local british legion club.

Every thursday, he meets his mates and has a few beers ... !!

anyone wanna join :thumbsup: :whistling:

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aircanman;2833377

anyone wanna join :thumbsup: :whistling:



Me :roll:

My dad and uncle are masons, as well as lots of family friends.

They just get together every now an then for a meal, drinking, charity events etc. Although, There are a lot of benefits being as you know a mason who may be able to do something for you, you can do something for someone else, they do something for another and so on.

Banned

Jo3l;2833428

My dad and uncle are masons, as well as lots of family friends.They just … My dad and uncle are masons, as well as lots of family friends.They just get together every now an then for a meal, drinking, charity events etc. Although, There are a lot of benefits being as you know a mason who may be able to do something for you, you can do something for someone else, they do something for another and so on.



Sounds like HUKD.

lol :-D

You tend to get more grief than help from a large majority of members here though lmao

Jo3l;2833446

lol :-DYou tend to get more grief than help from a large majority of … lol :-DYou tend to get more grief than help from a large majority of members here though lmao



:w00t: Cant dispute that one!

Jo3l;2833428

My dad and uncle are masons, as well as lots of family friends.They just … My dad and uncle are masons, as well as lots of family friends.They just get together every now an then for a meal, drinking, charity events etc. Although, There are a lot of benefits being as you know a mason who may be able to do something for you, you can do something for someone else, they do something for another and so on.




Exactly, you scratch my back, I will scratch yours, stuff anyone else syndrome.

Of course they don't tell you about their freaky rituals.:whistling:


Men wearing aprons.. :w00t:

A group of stone cutters that formed the knights Templar to protect the grail secret, help their members and other charitable needs.

Inactive;2833716

Exactly, you scratch my back, I will scratch yours, stuff anyone else … Exactly, you scratch my back, I will scratch yours, stuff anyone else syndrome.Of course they don't tell you about their freaky rituals.:whistling:Men wearing aprons.. :w00t:



Looks like you have really done your research.:p

Itchy backs? :?

Freaky rituals ?? Exactly which part, of which ritual, are you referring to ?

Men in aprons...hmm. Bit like me in my kilt then? :-D

twinks;2327072

It's a group of men only, a bit like a sect, and they all bend over … It's a group of men only, a bit like a sect, and they all bend over :whistling: and oblige :whistling:seriously they are like a sect and a secret sect that have a certain handshake or something and basically all help each other up the ladder of success, plenty of favours ;-)



It also apparently makes you a better person as like on here you need to be repped really before you can get in , a lot of unsavoury characters wouldnt get in , there again it depends what you class as unsavoury :whistling:

alnbowes;2834366

, a lot of unsavoury characters wouldnt get in , there again it depends … , a lot of unsavoury characters wouldnt get in , there again it depends what you class as unsavoury :whistling:



Exactly, the thread title was somewhat ironic, because you have to believe in God to be a member, which rules me out.;-)

Rockhound;2834314

Looks like you have really done your research.:pItchy backs? :?Freaky … Looks like you have really done your research.:pItchy backs? :?Freaky rituals ?? Exactly which part, of which ritual, are you referring to ? Men in aprons...hmm. Bit like me in my kilt then? :-D



I don't really want to be telling you this, but one of the rituals they have is that the first-born of every couple is ceremoniously sacrificed. The idea is that because a mother's love is greater towards her first born, by sacrificing it within a season of her second child being born, the mother can spread her love far more evenly between her second, third, fourth, and subsequent children. It's all tied in to how Masons believe that all members of the society should be equal, with no favourites, as God has no favourites amongst men. It kind-of makes sense if you think about it. But, yeah - if you've ever had the nagging feeling that you've a brother or a sister, that's probably why.
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Inactive;2833716

Exactly, you scratch my back, I will scratch yours, stuff anyone else … Exactly, you scratch my back, I will scratch yours, stuff anyone else syndrome.Of course they don't tell you about their freaky rituals.:whistling:Men wearing aprons.. :w00t:



BS.

The fact that they do regular stuff for charity is the same as 'stuff everyone else'? There isnt any freaky rituals either, they may do readings etc, but no rituals. And they dont wear the aprons the whole time, just when theyre doing the readings.

I happen to know because my dad holds the position of W. Master at our local lodge.

there was a documentry bout a year ago bout the masons, most of there ceremonys couldnt be filmed as secret but showed loads. it was a famous comidien i think, but i cant recal who now. there are many different groups of masons, and each group is for different sectors, business men, trade builders etc.

they do do alot for eachother but they do do alot for charities too. but they choose not to publisise it all. ive been to a mason ladys weekdnd with my friends family and it wasnt too weird, just rules like when do raffle, if a women wins a man HAS to accompany her to pick up the winnings, and stuff like that. and the men had to other stuff for us too. luckily my friend has a litlle brother so i claimed him for the night.

Jo3l;2839102

BS.The fact that they do regular stuff for charity is the same as 'stuff … BS.The fact that they do regular stuff for charity is the same as 'stuff everyone else'? There isnt any freaky rituals either, they may do readings etc, but no rituals. And they dont wear the aprons the whole time, just when theyre doing the readings.I happen to know because my dad holds the position of W. Master at our local lodge.



the main one in london, does once a year. it was on this documentry and it was propper weird the bits they showed, very much stonecutters. but in general they dont

Jo3l;2839102

BS.The fact that they do regular stuff for charity is the same as 'stuff … BS.The fact that they do regular stuff for charity is the same as 'stuff everyone else'? There isnt any freaky rituals either, they may do readings etc, but no rituals. And they dont wear the aprons the whole time, just when theyre doing the readings.I happen to know because my dad holds the position of W. Master at our local lodge.



They only do the charity stuff to put a gloss on their other somewhat less acceptable activities.

That would all depend very much on what you and I consider " freaky ".

Over the years there has been ample reports of their less than honest activities.

Why do you think there are so many Police Officers and Magistrates in membership?:whistling:

Inactive;2839156

They only do the charity stuff to put a gloss on their other somewhat … They only do the charity stuff to put a gloss on their other somewhat less acceptable activities.That would all depend very much on what you and I consider " freaky ". Over the years there has been ample reports of their less than honest activities.Why do you think there are so many Police Officers and Magistrates in membership?:whistling:



I have to say that you are talking total trash. Less acceptable activities? Care to elaborate, Im sure all the masons I know would be interested to hear what they are.

Based on your ideas of freaky, I imagine you're the kind of person who thinks a strong wind is a freaky happening, summons by demons or something.

And finally, There are police officers and magistrates in the membership. But there are also builders, engineers, office workers etc. The job is irrelevent.

Jo3l;2839184

I have to say that you are talking total trash. Less acceptable … I have to say that you are talking total trash. Less acceptable activities? Care to elaborate, Im sure all the masons I know would be interested to hear what they are.Based on your ideas of freaky, I imagine you're the kind of person who thinks a strong wind is a freaky happening, summons by demons or something.And finally, There are police officers and magistrates in the membership. But there are also builders, engineers, office workers etc. The job is irrelevent.



Agreed!

Inactive - it is clear that you know very little about the organisation.
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