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    What Year do you Think People like this Wont Exist !!

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    National Front or Rebranded BNP still exist, what year do you think these type of Evil people wont exist.

    Strong Question...it just makes my brown smooth skin boil.....

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    I always thought I'd get a hoverboard by 2015, so I'm not the right person to ask.

    Your skin boils?:)

    FilthAndFurry;5008069

    I always thought I'd get a hoverboard by 2015, so I'm not the right … I always thought I'd get a hoverboard by 2015, so I'm not the right person to ask.



    well we're not there yet so there's still chance!

    Fair play to them, I've nothing against asians/blacks or any other race, but to be a English and white has got to the stage where you cant celebrate, kids cant exchange christmas cards in some schools due to fears of offending non-christians yet they have to study ramadan even though there are no muslims in the school, taxi drivers cant display a st georges cross, its not so much a race issue as political correctness gone mad.

    Political correctness is forcing people to rebel and become racist in order to have their own beliefs.

    people like that will always exist, wanting them to not exist is being as bad as them surely? Although their views are clearly wrong fortunately or unfortunately people like them make up our diverse world.

    >what year do you think these type of Evil people wont existance.

    What year do you think people will be able to write something that makes sense.

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    Marina;5008103

    Your skin boils?:)



    Completely brown and then you get to my feet and they are white (no joke)
    A bit of a party trick

    harlzter;5008108

    Fair play to them, I've nothing against asians/blacks or any other race, … Fair play to them, I've nothing against asians/blacks or any other race, but to be a English and white has got to the stage where you cant celebrate, kids cant exchange christmas cards in some schools due to fears of offending non-christians yet they have to study ramadan even though there are no muslims in the school, taxi drivers cant display a st georges cross, its not so much a race issue as political correctness gone mad.Political correctness is forcing people to rebel and become racist in order to have their own beliefs.



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    guilbert53;5008129

    what year do you think these type of Evil people wont existance. What … >what year do you think these type of Evil people wont existance. What year do you think people will be able to write something that makes sense.


    A "?" is needed at the end.;-)

    Never, if anything the minority will get further right wing.

    He's entitled to his opinion as much as anyone is.

    harlzter;5008108

    , its not so much a race issue as political correctness gone … , its not so much a race issue as political correctness gone mad.Political correctness is forcing people to rebel and become racist in order to have their own beliefs.



    Here here I agree I sometimes feel discriminated against because Im white.... I know that sounds contraversial but not being able to fly a saint georges day flag in England is ridiculous... shouldnt everyone who lives here... reguardless of their heritage celebrate england????

    Also why do the councils insist on making such a big deal over xmas decorations? I have many asian friends who put up christmas trees in the spirit of christmas and cos there pretty lol but the council have to go and make a big rukus about "limiting" them in your home so their not ott and offensive!

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    harlzter;5008108

    Fair play to them, I've nothing against asians/blacks or any other race, … Fair play to them, I've nothing against asians/blacks or any other race, but to be a English and white has got to the stage where you cant celebrate, kids cant exchange christmas cards in some schools due to fears of offending non-christians yet they have to study ramadan even though there are no muslims in the school, taxi drivers cant display a st georges cross, its not so much a race issue as political correctness gone mad.Political correctness is forcing people to rebel and become racist in order to have their own beliefs.



    Which school is this at?

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    aaron14danni;5008146

    Here here I agree I sometimes feel discriminated against because Im … Here here I agree I sometimes feel discriminated against because Im white.... I know that sounds contraversial but not being able to fly a saint georges day flag in England is ridiculous... shouldnt everyone who lives here... reguardless of their heritage celebrate england???? Also why do the councils insist on making such a big deal over xmas decorations? I have many asian friends who put up christmas trees in the spirit of christmas and cos there pretty lol but the council have to go and make a big rukus about "limiting" them in your home so their not ott and offensive!



    Most of what you're citing is tabloid trash.

    FilthAndFurry;5008172

    Most of what you're citing is tabloid trash.



    You are completely wrong, living in Birmingham you would get used to the Winter festival (that's Christmas to most people). We are also not allowed to show any sign of flags etc at work.

    FilthAndFurry;5008172

    Most of what you're citing is tabloid trash.



    Not really.

    When I was at Uni a couple of years ago, we were told to take our St Georges flag down! And to make matters worse, it was during the 2004 Euro finals!

    >What Year do you Think People like this Wont Exist !!

    I am afraid all through history man has disliked his neighbour due to their race, religion, colour, mode of dress, activities and so on.

    Study history and read about Catholics burning Protistants at the stake (or the other way round).

    South Africa treated its black people terribly (and now Mugabe is treating the white people terribly)

    Recently we had religious war in Yugoslavia between serbs and croats that led to mass murder..

    In Africa there are still wars between different tribes in the same country.

    Many of the problems in Iraq are because of the different religions in different parts of the country.

    I am afraid it will NEVER go away.

    In fact I will go as far to say it is going to get worse in this country as the number of immigrants, illegal immigrants, asylum seekers and fake asylum seekers continues to grow.

    I can even see the possibility of civil war between races in this country in 10 years time.
    .

    yawn...

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    m18gfc;5008207

    Not really. When I was at Uni a couple of years ago, we were told to take … Not really. When I was at Uni a couple of years ago, we were told to take our St Georges flag down! And to make matters worse, it was during the 2004 Euro finals!



    That's idiots who fall for the tabloid trash thinking they are helping the world be more 'harmonious'.

    Tabloid trash is very dangerous to susceptible idiots. In some cases they've been known to believe it.

    FilthAndFurry;5008172

    Most of what you're citing is tabloid trash.



    Not at all. The councils are too concerned with political correctness when most people dont mind seeing other cultures celebrate their faith. Its when stupid councils get involved it causes animosity instead off adding to religious celebrations they just take away.

    FilthAndFurry;5008159

    Which school is this at?



    Our kids school, wasnt told outright not to but to be discreet:x

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    aaron14danni;5008244

    Not at all. The councils are too concerned with political correctness … Not at all. The councils are too concerned with political correctness when most people dont mind seeing other cultures celebrate their faith. Its when stupid councils get involved it causes animosity instead off adding to religious celebrations they just take away.



    Actually, they're scared of being sued in most cases.

    agree with harltzer .......

    we are being pushed away from our british traditions .e.g. can't say christmas but can say happy holiday, can't send xmas cards (in certain schools), can't celebrate st george's day in case we offend

    we need drastic action on this ...... why should we bow to the stupidity of the political correctness cos some tough nosed sod doesn't like our traditions...

    if we go to another country, you are invited to celebrate their traditions but come here and you get nothing

    a good percentage of the BNP / national front are not RACIST but are wanting to show their british beliefs .... you woulldn't believe it but some people are proud to be british. I for one used to be. Think of all the heroic stuff members of our country have done in the last few hundred centuries, discovered america (probably bad thing really), fought off nazi invasion, designed most of the tools people take for granted now ...

    its time to stand up for your nationality .... i for one am ****** off being told we cannot celebrate this and that cos we might offend one person. FFS if they move here then surely they realise that its our culture and part of our heritage.... On Shakespeare's birthday / st george's day, we are not allowed to celebrate the britishness of them?

    you wouldn't move to china and tell them they can't celebrate chinese new year would you? so why do we put up with it?

    /rant over

    FilthAndFurry;5008251

    Actually, they're scared of being sued in most cases.



    what has this got to do with tabloids though? All i've read in papers, is them reporting it. Never have they said simply don't fly a flag!

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    harlzter;5008248

    Our kids school, wasnt told outright not to but to be discreet:x



    If not everyone celebrates something, especially at young kids' ages, then they can feel excluded. Being discreet about something is not the same as saying they can't exchange cards.

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    m18gfc;5008264

    what has this got to do with tabloids though? All i've read in papers, is … what has this got to do with tabloids though? All i've read in papers, is them reporting it. Never have they said simply don't fly a flag!



    For the last 25 years or so they've reported stories about how PC is ruining the world and how we can't say blackboard and how Christmas offends non-christians. Councils take these stupid fallacies into consideration and middle-managers overreact 'just to be on the safe side'.

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    faevilangel;5008263

    agree with harltzer .......we are being pushed away from our british … agree with harltzer .......we are being pushed away from our british traditions .e.g. can't say christmas but can say happy holiday, can't send xmas cards (in certain schools), can't celebrate st george's day in case we offendwe need drastic action on this ...... why should we bow to the stupidity of the political correctness cos some tough nosed sod doesn't like our traditions...if we go to another country, you are invited to celebrate their traditions but come here and you get nothinga good percentage of the BNP / national front are not RACIST but are wanting to show their british beliefs .... you woulldn't believe it but some people are proud to be british. I for one used to be. Think of all the heroic stuff members of our country have done in the last few hundred centuries, discovered america (probably bad thing really), fought off nazi invasion, designed most of the tools people take for granted now ...its time to stand up for your nationality .... i for one am ****** off being told we cannot celebrate this and that cos we might offend one person. FFS if they move here then surely they realise that its our culture and part of our heritage.... On Shakespeare's birthday / st george's day, we are not allowed to celebrate the britishness of them?you wouldn't move to china and tell them they can't celebrate chinese new year would you? so why do we put up with it?/rant over




    I think people can see from that how proud we should be of our heritage. You're right.

    WHY DON'T WE CELEBRATE DISCOVERING AMERICA?

    And why can't I say Happy Christmas. Hallmark don't even have cards to celebrate it and the BBC don't even show the Queen's Christmas message.

    When I was young, you could buy a Christmas tree and put decorations up. Not anymore.

    We can't even celebrate St George's Day - I don't even know if it exists anymore.

    FilthAndFurry;5008314

    I think people can see from that how proud we should be of our heritage. … I think people can see from that how proud we should be of our heritage. You're right.WHY DON'T WE CELEBRATE DISCOVERING AMERICA?And why can't I say Happy Christmas. Hallmark don't even have cards to celebrate it and the BBC don't even show the Queen's Christmas message.When I was young, you could buy a Christmas tree and put decorations up. Not anymore.We can't even celebrate St George's Day - I don't even know if it exists anymore.



    exactly my point... things we took for granted are now being politicalised and therefor not "fair" to say it in case it offends some one ..... therefor the BNP does seem a logical choice .... ok some of their members are racist but many any just like you and me...

    they want to control immagration -- needed as otherwise their will be more foreigners than the traditional caucasian migrants.

    some of the bnp's actions are deluded but some they are spot on .... shame that they would never get in to power .... we are stuck with the useless labour & conservatives

    Original Poster

    faevilangel;5008263

    agree with harltzer .......we are being pushed away from our british … agree with harltzer .......we are being pushed away from our british traditions .e.g. can't say christmas but can say happy holiday, can't send xmas cards (in certain schools), can't celebrate st george's day in case we offendwe need drastic action on this ...... why should we bow to the stupidity of the political correctness cos some tough nosed sod doesn't like our traditions...if we go to another country, you are invited to celebrate their traditions but come here and you get nothinga good percentage of the BNP / national front are not RACIST but are wanting to show their british beliefs .... you woulldn't believe it but some people are proud to be british. I for one used to be. Think of all the heroic stuff members of our country have done in the last few hundred centuries, discovered america (probably bad thing really), fought off nazi invasion, designed most of the tools people take for granted now ...its time to stand up for your nationality .... i for one am ****** off being told we cannot celebrate this and that cos we might offend one person. FFS if they move here then surely they realise that its our culture and part of our heritage.... On Shakespeare's birthday / st george's day, we are not allowed to celebrate the britishness of them?you wouldn't move to china and tell them they can't celebrate chinese new year would you? so why do we put up with it?/rant over




    Wake up and Smell the Coffee Sonny Jim !!! BNP are racist , Fact not fiction this is something you really to realise this. You could be with Labour, Cons, Green, Libs or stand yourself. I aint having a go...there is no jusfication to be with them. Ive had skinheads from the BNP have a go at me, because of my colour in front of my family, sorry BNP or any right wing factions of society need to be destoryed including Muslim Radicals....

    And they will be in Time....

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    faevilangel;5008374

    exactly my point... things we took for granted are now being … exactly my point... things we took for granted are now being politicalised and therefor not "fair" to say it in case it offends some one ..... therefor the BNP does seem a logical choice .... ok some of their members are racist but many any just like you and me...they want to control immagration -- needed as otherwise their will be more foreigners than the traditional caucasian migrants.some of the bnp's actions are deluded but some they are spot on .... shame that they would never get in to power .... we are stuck with the useless labour & conservatives



    Exactly. All those foreign businesses coming over here and employing people. All they do is take, take, take and pay corporate taxes, but take, take, take, and also the income tax and spending power that their employees then have.

    But mostly it's the crime of why we don't celebrate the great Captain BlackAdder discovering America on Christmas Day 1066 with his fine ship the Marie Celeste.

    It's truly criminal that some people just don't get it.

    FilthAndFurry;5008430

    Exactly. All those foreign businesses coming over here and employing … Exactly. All those foreign businesses coming over here and employing people. All they do is take, take, take and pay corporate taxes, but take, take, take, and also the income tax and spending power that their employees then have.But mostly it's the crime of why we don't celebrate the great Captain BlackAdder discovering America on Christmas Day 1066 with his fine ship the Marie Celeste. It's truly criminal that some people just don't get it.



    gone way beyond my point ......... illegal immagration ...... we need a control on immigration .... not stop it .... look the aussie's immigration rules and compare to ours .....

    im all for a multi national society but it needs some control to limit the numbers to a reasonable level

    Jacob_Kreed;5008427

    Wake up and Smell the Coffee Sonny Jim !!! BNP are racist , Fact not … Wake up and Smell the Coffee Sonny Jim !!! BNP are racist , Fact not fiction this is something you really to realise this. You could be with Labour, Cons, Green, Libs or stand yourself. I aint having a go...there is no jusfication to be with them. Ive had skinheads from the BNP have a go at me, because of my colour in front of my family, sorry BNP or any right wing factions of society need to be destoryed including Muslim Radicals....And they will be in Time....



    there is a small majority as you describe ...... most of the bnp are normal working class citizens wanting a way to show their britishness.... many are also in the army .....

    a lot of the trouble the bnp get in are started by people other than the bnp .. e.g. they held a conference near us a few months ago and a gang of 40 + protestors protested at them holding their conference at a private function ...

    some of the bnp have racial views but NOT all

    harlzter;5008108

    Fair play to them, I've nothing against asians/blacks or any other race, … Fair play to them, I've nothing against asians/blacks or any other race, but to be a English and white has got to the stage where you cant celebrate, kids cant exchange christmas cards in some schools due to fears of offending non-christians yet they have to study ramadan even though there are no muslims in the school, taxi drivers cant display a st georges cross, its not so much a race issue as political correctness gone mad.Political correctness is forcing people to rebel and become racist in order to have their own beliefs.



    I wonder how many of these things, are due to "asians/blacks" actually complaining?, I am convinced that it is more like liberal white people in authority who get offended on others behalfs. I have a number of friends and colleagues who are muslim, none have been offended by St Georges day, and we exchange xmas cards without issue.

    I have only been accused of racism the one time, by a guy I interviewed and didnt give the job to, he would ring me on a daily basis berating me for being racist, and how he was going to sue me and bankrupt the company. Finally I asked him If he wanted to speak to the guy I hired, my new employee, told him in perfect Urdu exactly why he didn't get the job.

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    faevilangel;5008538

    some of the bnp have racial views but NOT all



    But all BNP supporters support a racist party.

    FilthAndFurry;5008581

    But all BNP supporters support a racist party.



    yeah thats true but you can't exactly expect labour to stick up for british mans views

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    faevilangel;5008625

    yeah thats true but you can't exactly expect labour to stick up for … yeah thats true but you can't exactly expect labour to stick up for british mans views



    And the BNP do? What about British men with black or asian appearance?

    FilthAndFurry;5008651

    And the BNP do? What about British men with black or asian appearance?



    everyone complains about tax rises... labour puts them up
    immigration ...... labour does naff all

    a lot of the bnp manifesto is about reducing immigration and getting the caucasian british into jobs before other nationals ....... i don't condone a lot of the bnp manifesto but some of them, they talk real sense and its about time another party took on them issues

    faevilangel;5008705

    everyone complains about tax rises... labour puts them upimmigration … everyone complains about tax rises... labour puts them upimmigration ...... labour does naff alla lot of the bnp manifesto is about reducing immigration and getting the caucasian british into jobs before other nationals ....... i don't condone a lot of the bnp manifesto but some of them, they talk real sense and its about time another party took on them issues



    I so don't agree with that (no hate)

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    faevilangel;5008705

    everyone complains about tax rises... labour puts them upimmigration … everyone complains about tax rises... labour puts them upimmigration ...... labour does naff alla lot of the bnp manifesto is about reducing immigration and getting the caucasian british into jobs before other nationals ....... i don't condone a lot of the bnp manifesto but some of them, they talk real sense and its about time another party took on them issues



    Everyone always complains about taxes, but they are necessary. People always want more services for less money.

    You're talking about 'caucasian British' people - what about Black or Asian British people? Should they just go away?

    The BNP are racist and people should be ashamed of voting for them.

    harlzter;5008108

    Fair play to them, I've nothing against asians/blacks or any other race, … Fair play to them, I've nothing against asians/blacks or any other race, but [ .... [ Political correctness is forcing people to rebel and become racist in order to have their own beliefs.



    That's a rather worrying thing to say, harl. I think you've got to be careful that this isn't interpreted in the opposite way. i.e. That so-called PC is giving people an excuse to voice deeply-seated prejudices.

    You've probably heard me refer to it before, but there is a large body of academic work in CDA (critical discourse analysis) which looks at this very structure you've used (i.e. I have nothing against X, but...). I provided links on earlier posts.

    harlzter;5008248

    Our kids school, wasnt told outright not to but to be discreet:x



    Really? Please elaborate. Who told you this? Are you just referring to talk in the playground amongst parents, or did someone in an official capacity say this to you? And if so, how was it communicated?
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