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    London Marathon snail crawl man Lloyd Scott sacked

    A charity worker who crawled the London Marathon dressed as Brian the Snail from The Magic Roundabout has been sacked for not raising enough money.

    Action for Kids fundraiser Lloyd Scott hoped to raise at least £100,000 for the charity but received about £20,000.

    The 49-year-old former footballer from Essex, who has raised more than £5m for charity over the years, said he was "shocked" by the decision.

    LOL, he has raised 5 Million Pounds for them over the years and gets sacked, nice caring charity I see.

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    You should try looking charities up on the Charity Commission website. Nothing will destroy your faith in 'charity' quicker.

    I think the charity will regret how they let him go in the future because of all the media attention it's got. I suspect that fewer people will be willing to donate to them in future events.

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    Absolutely shocking that a man like that should be so shoddily treated, very shortsighted of the charity, the negative publicity surrounding this story will certainly raise the charities profile but not in the way they would want, hopefully another charity will see the value of this gentleman and take him on

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    Seems fair to me considering how this sort of charity work is carried out.

    dxx

    You should try looking charities up on the Charity Commission website. … You should try looking charities up on the Charity Commission website. Nothing will destroy your faith in 'charity' quicker.



    Over 160,000 registered charities with a total income of more than £52 billion.

    Instant.

    Charity begins at home and ends there!

    Surely Lloyd Scott doesn't ask for a wage in return, he's doing this for charity. If the idea of dressing up as a snail was his idea, the charity would have either approved or disapproved it, so the charity should bear as much responsibility??

    Talking about charities, getting really fed up with them. Eventhough I don't have 2 pennies to rub together at end of each month, I'm a regular donar to Cancer reseach, made donations to the Japan, Asia Tsunami and other aids. What I hate is a lot of charities will cold call you, expecting you to hand over your bank details over the phone. Charities should be voluntary and not forced into it.

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    Big difference between £100k and £20k.

    He's not hit his target. Sack him I say.

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    I heard this on the radio yesterday. They said he'd made a loss of £80K, not that he was short on what he'd hoped to raise.

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    I think you guys are mostly missing the point.

    This kind of crap always annoys me - same with the big boys like comic relief.

    So much money is spent publicising the event you sometimes wonder how much is raised.

    The people saying he shouldn't have been sacked are really short sighted - the guys an idiot.

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    vibeone

    I think you guys are mostly missing the point.This kind of crap always … I think you guys are mostly missing the point.This kind of crap always annoys me - same with the big boys like comic relief.So much money is spent publicising the event you sometimes wonder how much is raised.The people saying he shouldn't have been sacked are really short sighted - the guys an idiot.



    yeah, £5 million is pocket change and walking 26 miles in a deep sea diving suit is easy stuff........what's that about short sighted, idiot?

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    "Wacky" charity runners aren't fit to shampoo my crotch.

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    master_chief

    "Wacky" charity runners aren't fit to shampoo my crotch.




    they'll be fitter than that, they can run 26 + miles

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    wishihadadonkey

    they'll be fitter than that, they can run 26 + miles



    Or crawl 26 miles over a matter on months when he should have been at work.

    So he only achieved 20% of what his target was.

    Why should he be immune from dismissal???

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    JonnyTwoToes

    Or crawl 26 miles over a matter on months when he should have been at … Or crawl 26 miles over a matter on months when he should have been at work.



    This is all true, so since you're throwing stones and your house is obviously in order, how much have you raised/donated to charity in comparision to £5million....................

    jasonodell

    Over 160,000 registered charities with a total income of more than £52 … Over 160,000 registered charities with a total income of more than £52 billion.Instant.



    Try looking at how much of that money the people behind the charities pocket, though. As a general rule, only about 66% of that figure will end up being spent on charitable causes. Sometimes, much much less. Look around.

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    66% of £52 billion still better than 100% of £10 billion say.

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    Alfonse

    yeah, £5 million is pocket change and walking 26 miles in a deep sea … yeah, £5 million is pocket change and walking 26 miles in a deep sea diving suit is easy stuff........what's that about short sighted, idiot?



    £5mil after costs? idiot comment back at ya, though i was talking in general terms

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    Alfonse

    This is all true, so since you're throwing stones and your house is … This is all true, so since you're throwing stones and your house is obviously in order, how much have you raised/donated to charity in comparision to £5million....................



    For your information Alfonse, many people would love to give up work and concentrate on charity/volunteer work - me included.

    I give a lot of money to charity whilst I also continue to fill this countries tax purse.


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    vibeone

    £5mil after costs? idiot comment back at ya, though i was talking in … £5mil after costs? idiot comment back at ya, though i was talking in general terms



    yeah you're right, I thought it was good that charities receive any money, maybe charity work is a thing of the past, man you are good hearted person i'm sure you donate way more than him even with gift aid
    Edited by: "Alfonse" 14th Jun 2011

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    JonnyTwoToes

    For your information Alfonse, many people would love to give up work and … For your information Alfonse, many people would love to give up work and concentrate on charity/volunteer work - me included.I give a lot of money to charity whilst I also continue to fill this countries tax purse.



    lmao

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    Alfonse

    yeah you're right, I thought it was good that charities any money, maybe … yeah you're right, I thought it was good that charities any money, maybe charity work is a thing of the past, man you are good hearted person i'm sure you donate way more than him even with gift aid



    I don't care if I donate more or not. Honestly I don't - I'm not very charitable at all, and I don't make a secret of that. However, I don't waste money in order to donate either.

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    vibeone

    I don't careif I donate more or not. Honestly I don't - I'm not very … I don't careif I donate more or not. Honestly I don't - I'm not very charitable at all, and I don't make a secret of that. However, I don't waste money in order to donate either.



    only a fool would post in here if that's how they feel

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    Alfonse

    only a fool would post in here if that's how they feel



    Not really a fool, since you've dragged the thread off topic anyway? It's not about me vs him, its whether he did a decent job for the charity he worked for, and I say No, No he did not.

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    VB1 is at least being honest Alfonse. As soon as charity is mentioned, everyone seems to have to walk on egg shells - there are some really crap charities out there that operate bad business models (these are businesses at the end of the day).

    Charity does not instantly equate to angelic behaviour.

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    Interesting avatar choice Veeb.

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    Thanks JTT. That is basically my argument.

    m_c - I just really like dogs.

    The problem with national charity's are that so much is wasted on admin and promotional marketing plus those dodgy people who corner you in town to sign up that the actual charity gets f*** all.

    However local charity's such as Hospices the money goes direct into the charity for equipment, drugs and nursing staff.

    This was one stunt that didnt pay off, his others did so fair play, over the years he's helped the charity financially which is good. Seems like those sat in cushy admin jobs wanted a scape goat for this going wrong. Accept not everything works in business and life, learn and move on to another idea next year.

    In terms of spending and wages it does seem those who are management in charities do get a good whack, fair to those giving and those helping, not really, but thats life and at least a large proportion is helping.

    If you want to be outraged go on here to see all the farm subsidy, 55 billion euros or something a year:
    farmsubsidy.org/

    I might claim for my allotment and not been able to grow cucumbers, probably get £100k knowing their allowances.
    Edited by: "super_leeds_86" 14th Jun 2011
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