where did the urban myths about plasma tvs come from?

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Found 10th Feb 2009
OK I've only been selling TVs since April last year for Currys but even I KNEW that there was various myths about tvs, especially plasma.

I actually had an arguement, a full scale one with a customer today who was looking at TVs and when I asked him if he was looking for a particular one, he straight away went on the defensive and said "NOT A PLASMA!"
I asked why and was treated to a very aggressive lecture about
how they use 3 times as much electricity
which magazine says you need to have the colour boosted up after 3 years
the EU is banning them from sale
the gas in them can leak and cause radiation.

I tried to reason with the gent that none of this was true and he called me a f**king idiot if I believed what I read on the internet!
He'd talked to tv engineers who HAD refilled the gas in plasma screens and that it was very costly.
Again I said that I had once googled such a process and could find no evidence of anyone being able to refill thousands of sealed glass cells.
I asked what type of gas is used in the plasma screens and he didnt know but assured me it was very expensive.
and I even tried to end the discussion by saying that if there was these problems with plasma tvs, then why do DSGI and electrical retailers the world over, continue to sell them and why do the manufacturers continue to produce them?
especially Panasonic who make a 103" and 150" plasma screen?
they just wouldn't bother if the technology was this bad.

aggressive customer then tells me I know nothing about tvs and he's studied them for ages trying to find out which is best and everyone he knows says plasmas as terrible.
I had to ask him to stop swearing at me if he wanted to continue looking round our shop and he said I started it.

SO WHERE DID THIS STUFF ABOUT PLASMA TVS COME FROM?

we always get the same ones from mis-informed customers:
the gas needs to be recharged/replaced
the gas can leak
the tvs can burn and catch fire
my mate said not to get one cos they don't last
my mate had one and it 'went off'.
LCD is better cos plasma is getting phased out.
they use too much electricity
you can't game on them
you can't watch them from an angle
you can't tip them on their back. (though why anyone is wanting to watch TV this way is a mystery)

aswell as the vague ones that just say "I don't like them" but can't clarify why other than "I just don't like them"

Anyone care to join this discussion?
did you ever get told any of this stuff by a friend/co-worker/taxi driver/bloke in the pub/sales person?

or is it just people from my area that don't get it?

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at the end of the day its a television, see one, buy one, watch one

He was probably told all these things by other currys staff when they were pushing LCDs

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Good for you on knowing something about the products you sell.

Always crack me up when people harp on about refilling the gas, screen burn, power consumption etc.

Happens everywhere. Its called ignorance.

Personally, I wont buy LCD.... they always seem to be hit by Wii controllers!!! :w00t:

think the not gaming on them and the setting on fire comes from the increased risk of screen burn on them which is a very real risk.

one about them being phased out tends to come from Pioneer stopping making their own plasma screens and starting to sell LCD's for the first time. When realistically LCD's are being phased out by LED's and then OLED's. Plasma's replacement hasn't been released anywhere yet as far as I know.

Edit:
The not lasting as long comes from when the first Plasma's only had a panel life of around 8,000 hours instead of the no 100,000 hour life. So many of those are now dying.

and the not tiping it on its back is during transportation theres a risk to colouration on the screen if the gasses sit on them...but theres many different opinions on this.

the gas needs to be recharged/replaced - not true, very early early models may have had this done. However the gas “quality efficiency” does degrade

the gas can leak - lol

the tvs can burn and catch fire - like all things if installed in a stupid place e.g over a constant burning fire then chances increase.

my mate said not to get one cos they don't last - lcd have a general higher “quality efficient” life

my mate had one and it 'went off'. – huh

LCD is better cos plasma is getting phased out. - not true at all

they use too much electricity - they do consume more energy then lcds

you can't game on them- not true, specially now phosphorus trails are virtually gone with the intro of hz scanning.

you can't watch them from an angle - better viewing angle than lcd

you can't tip them on their back. (though why anyone is wanting to watch TV this way is a mystery) - not advised in transit (gas distortion)

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tonyg1962;4344605

He was probably told all these things by other currys staff when they … He was probably told all these things by other currys staff when they were pushing LCDs



ha! another reason why you lot hate us all.

I went into Currys from a PC shop and I made it my business to learn as much about the products I hadn't sold before.
I couldn't believe that folk actually think that we sell tvs that need to be periodically refilled with gas.

it sounds patently ridiculous.

a gas powered tv?
that you have to put gas into make it work again?
really?

where do you get this gas from?
who refills it?
how long does it take?
is it expensive?
can you do it yourself?

I once got asked "Which tv's work off the gas bottles?"
WHAT????

do people not think is thru in their heads first, like when teachers told you to sound out a word you were struggling with first?

or is it just 'that taxi driver said it, so it must be true?'

my mate told me it was methane in plasma, i said bullocks, he said thats right...........

That radition tihng is utter **** to, i dont think there is a known gas that causes radition, and if there was it wqouldnt be used incase such an event happened

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Didnt see this bit!!!!

the gas needs to be recharged/replaced [COLOR="Blue"]Its a sealed unit![/COLOR]
the gas can leak [COLOR="Blue"]Sure - if you break the screen![/COLOR]
the tvs can burn and catch fire[COLOR="Blue"] If you install anything incorrectly it can.[/COLOR]
my mate said not to get one cos they don't last [COLOR="Blue"]My Plasma has a 1/2 life of 60,000 hours. I will be bored with it before it dies![/COLOR]
my mate had one and it 'went off'. [COLOR="Blue"]Good advice. Standby wastes electricity.[/COLOR]
LCD is better cos plasma is getting phased out. [COLOR="Blue"]LCD is cheaper to produce. Manufacturing led, not consumer - apart from them liking cheaper goods. Cheaper doesnt mean better.[/COLOR]
they use too much electricity [COLOR="Blue"]They use more electricity than LCD, but far less than standard CRT. The cost isnt really relavant in the bigger picture (unless you are a green activist I guess!)[/COLOR]
you can't game on them [COLOR="Blue"]Snooker isn't recommended, nor table tennis. Computer consoles are fine.[/COLOR]
you can't watch them from an angle [COLOR="Blue"]Viewing angle is superior on Plasma to any other product.[/COLOR]
you can't tip them on their back. (though why anyone is wanting to watch TV this way is a mystery) [COLOR="Blue"]I suppose if I slept on the ceiling, this would be an issue. However, whilst it might not be recommended (distortion within the sealed unit) why would you want to?[/COLOR]

how can you tell the difference between a plasma and a lcd?

just nod, say ok then flog him the lcd with the highest commission on, sounds like a gift horse to me

shosie;4344779

That radition tihng is utter **** to, i dont think there is a known gas … That radition tihng is utter **** to, i dont think there is a known gas that causes radition, and if there was it wqouldnt be used incase such an event happened



Radon Radiation

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skusey;4344838

how can you tell the difference between a plasma and a lcd?



The one with the better picture will be the Plasma. :thumbsup:

you can't game on them [COLOR="Blue"]Snooker isn't recommended, nor table tennis. Computer consoles are fine.[/COLOR]
[/B][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

awwww, thats why mine broke, now i fully agree with everytihng in your list now,

Alfonse;4344847

Radon Radiation



guv;4344852

The one with the better picture will be the Plasma. :thumbsup:



yes but what are the cosmetic differences, ie; by looking at the tv turned off, how would I know

Alfonse;4344847

Radon Radiation



radon is inert tho, and dont see using that, to be honest the only way you can make it go a certain colour is by passing a massive voltage through it, and even then itll only be one colour not many

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skusey;4344864

yes but what are the cosmetic differences, ie; by looking at the tv turned … yes but what are the cosmetic differences, ie; by looking at the tv turned off, how would I know



Looking? Dunno (Unless the stickers are part of it!) Plasmas weigh more - (but my eyes aren't scales!)

shosie;4344875

radon is inert tho, and dont see using that, to be honest the only way … radon is inert tho, and dont see using that, to be honest the only way you can make it go a certain colour is by passing a massive voltage through it, and even then itll only be one colour not many



I was merely commenting on your post, on unknown radioactive gases, I'm not debating its use

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guv;4344852

The one with the better picture will be the Plasma. :thumbsup:


your wrong.. the one with the better picture will be a PIONEER plasma :w00t:

skusey;4344864

yes but what are the cosmetic differences, ie; by looking at the tv turned … yes but what are the cosmetic differences, ie; by looking at the tv turned off, how would I know



Plasmas have a glass screen, LCD's have a soft panel that when pressed normally goes white....some LCD's have gloss screens but usually not glass

Brussels has just passed some stupid law saying that Plasma's will have to rated
same as washing machines etc ie which one uses the least energy - according to them
the worst sets can use up to 4 times the amount of power as per the same size LCD,

the ones using the most energy will have to be phased out and will not be allowed to be on sail
I think it's within the next five years.

Boy am I glad they have nothing better to do

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dog_cop;4344918

you're wrong.. the one with the better picture will be a PIONEER plasma … you're wrong.. the one with the better picture will be a PIONEER plasma :w00t:



Hehe.. you corrected your spelling!:

Spoilt my reply!

BTW - you got your touch sorted yet?

Alfonse;4344915

I was merely commenting on your post, on unknown radioactive gases, I'm … I was merely commenting on your post, on unknown radioactive gases, I'm not debating its use



meh nor am i lol. thanks tho yeah, your right, dont even know if what i said was half correct

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shosie;4344949

meh nor am i lol. thanks tho yeah, your right, dont even know if what i … meh nor am i lol. thanks tho yeah, your right, dont even know if what i said was half correct



Urban Myth starter alert!!!:p ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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guv;4344940

Hehe.. you corrected your spelling!:Spoilt my reply!BTW - you got your … Hehe.. you corrected your spelling!:Spoilt my reply!BTW - you got your touch sorted yet?


i hate using my laptop .. touch coming along but those links you sent I managed to delete all me messages .. and had a message about diablo:whistling:

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plasma`s are normally better at hand to hand combat than lcd

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dog_cop;4344967

i hate using my laptop .. touch coming along but those links you sent I … i hate using my laptop .. touch coming along but those links you sent I managed to delete all me messages .. and had a message about diablo:whistling:



Hehe... yeh I know about the PM! I suggested you was the one to ask. (I dont use a CAM)

I'll PM the URL......

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guv;4344990

Hehe... yeh I know about the PM! I suggested you was the one to ask. (I … Hehe... yeh I know about the PM! I suggested you was the one to ask. (I dont use a CAM)I'll PM the URL......


thanks ... download them stright into itunes?:?

guv;4344955

Urban Myth starter alert!!!:p ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



well it is an inert gas
and you do make gas light up by passing 1000s of volts through, (neon)
or hydrogen goes blue ( i think) when you do.

so not exactly.

Theres radation in your smoke alarm, but thats harmless, just as another poinnt on the radation side.

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yes... just add via itunes

laser televisions are the future anywho

check out

laservue

this'll start small storm

The urban myths about plasma TVs all come from me. All of them. I got bored a few years ago, so I registered a few dozen IDs pretending to come from various regions across the globe and went on an epic trolling spree, spreading my myths across the internet's forums. I then sat back and laughed as the fools that populate forums blindly retold my lies as truths, because they read it on a forum and therefore it must be true. I sighed as some of my myths dissapeared into obscurity (one of my favourites was the one about how plasma TVs emit so many photons that they can render a sleeping kitten bald within two hours, another was that plasma TVs give you AIDS inside your retinas), but smiled as new myths were introduced, like the one about the EU banning them. The Sun did well to follow my trolling there.

Unfortunately, this entire post is a lie. But I think I'll try this with the new OLED screens, just to annoy you really.

actually imo the more poignant urban myth going the rounds is the great "digital switchover" con trick. I am inundated at work in asda with people who truly believe that their old tv will become obsolete and they need a new one to get digital.

when we explain that they only need a digibox if they have scart inputs on their existing tv they are truly amazed. now where did this myth come from? could it be the electrical retailers who are encouraging this nonsense?

"hd ready" is another great expression to confuse the public-never mind that the majority of these tvs cannot actually display TRUE HD-just take their cash and pocket the commission.

my mother was told a pack of lies and scare stories by a sales assistant in comet and walked out the store with 2 flat screens-one for the living room and one for the bedroom after being told that soon she wouldnt get any signal at all on her crts.

Im sure there are many honest sales assistants in electrical retailers but there are also many who are bumping up their sales by telling old age pensioners porkies and confusing them with jargon about hd and digital.

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maddogb;4344841

just nod, say ok then flog him the lcd with the highest commission on, … just nod, say ok then flog him the lcd with the highest commission on, sounds like a gift horse to me



sadly we don't make any commission at Currys anymore.

Saturday I was there an hour after my shift finished serving an obnoxious couple who did spent nearly a grand but at the end of the sale at 6pm he remarked "Well you'll get overtime and commission" and I replied that we get neither, just a nat min wage and for the last hour I hadnt been getting paid at all but DSGi want us to concentrate on customer service.

but now I'm thinking of starting new plasma TV myths via this website, despite being a plasma TV owner myself.

Plasma TVs give you AIDS, SPACE-AIDS actually
they caused the credit crunch and recession in the UK.
they touch your children when you're in the kitchen.
they watch you in the shower & throw hot marbles at you
they download porn on your laptop
they were designed by Hitler, Sadam Hussein and Bin Laden

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slackrat77;4345125

but now I'm thinking of starting new plasma TV myths via this website, … but now I'm thinking of starting new plasma TV myths via this website, despite being a plasma TV owner myself.Plasma TVs give you AIDS, SPACE-AIDS actuallythey caused the credit crunch and recession in the UK.they touch your children when you're in the kitchen.they watch you in the shower & throw hot marbles at youthey download porn on your laptopthey were designed by Hitler, Sadam Hussein and Bin Laden



LOL

I play a few videogames, I prefer LCD, Sony Bravia

(Helps if you've got a great model though)

slackrat77;4345125

Plasma TVs give you AIDS, SPACE-AIDS actuallythey caused the credit … Plasma TVs give you AIDS, SPACE-AIDS actuallythey caused the credit crunch and recession in the UK.they touch your children when you're in the kitchen.they watch you in the shower & throw hot marbles at youthey download porn on your laptopthey were designed by Hitler, Sadam Hussein and Bin Laden



Good stuff, you forgot that they're the reason behind torrent piracy aswell.

Only CD I've bought in the last few months is the new Bruce Springsteen :lol: it's great thankfully.

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plasma tvs download torrents when you're not watching them and this has lead to the downfall of the music industry through piracy.
Metallica sued plasma tvs for the copyright infringement of their material via napster.
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