Which motherboard ?

Anyone advice me on the motherboard to start me off please
Also the graphics card and other bits which will be compatible with it (budget max is £250 - £200 is better) - see previous post -how easy is it to build a computer for complete novice.
Thanks

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Original Poster

bump- someone reply please

What processor have you got or looking to get?

Bumped after 12 mins...........:shock:

Original Poster

Posted all info on other thread- not fussed really - dual core probably as will be cheaper than core 2-intel is dearer i believe - so depends on price difference.

Original Poster

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i bought a Pentium D 3.4ghz about 18 months back.Asrock board with 2 gig of RAM....Works a treat.

If i was buying now i recon I'd opt for the Pentium Core 2 Duo...Meant to be really good.

Micro Direct was a very good site to deal with and veru easy to browse round and sellect what you want..

microdirect.co.uk/??s…ure

Only thing is once you start getting newr motherboards and CPu's you might find it wont take your old RAM so you have to update that any way.

Other things to remember is a bigger chip and the works will require a bigger PSU so an upgrade on that would be a good idea.

Also the heatsink and CPU fan that will come as standard are not the best to have so i would opt for a bigger heatsink and fan..Remember heat is the worst thing for ya PC...

But you should be able to pick up a decent board and the works for your pocket...


reviewcentre.com/pro…tml have alook here

Original Poster

Sorry -but most of that has gone completely over my head- i did say complete novice !

Original Poster

The only thing i am definate on is the X blade Silver Case with Blue LED at present and possibly windows xp media centre as the oem .

My advice is that if you don't understand that post (the one you said went completely over your head) then DON'T attempt to build a PC.

With all the correct parts it's relatively easy to assemble, but ensuring that you get correct & compatible parts is NOT simple. Also if it doesn't work 1st time then it takes a lot of trial & error by a relatively experienced person to figure out what's wrong.

In the past it used to be much cheaper to build your own PC. Now it tends to work out the same or more expensive than buying a pre-built PC (there are some good Dell deals out there these last few weeks).

The only real advantage of building your own PC is to ensure that you have the exact specific components that you want. Without trying to sound patronising, I don't think that this is the situation for a novice PC user.

If you want to do the "project" to learn how to build a PC then you really want an experienced "friend" on-site to show you what's what!

HTH

catwoman

Sorry -but most of that has gone completely over my head- i did say … Sorry -but most of that has gone completely over my head- i did say complete novice !



I would just go to a good pc shop tell them wot you need and tell how much you got and they will build it you .... its goin to be easyer :thumbsup:

I'd rubbish the above tbh, If you're willing to learn/listen, Its easy!

If you get stuck, Ask on here or open the side of your working pc's case and have a look to see what goes where.

There are a ton of helpful guides on the web also, If you can replace the motor in a Dyson you can build a PC :thumbsup:

The only thing thats sometimes (well almost always!) a problem is installing all the right drivers, But thats pretty simple to, Just download and install from the manufacturers website.

Original Poster

Thankyou - i was starting to lose confidence in this project - the Dyson i didn't find hard at all and that was a first too !!

catwoman

Thankyou - i was starting to lose confidence in this project - the Dyson … Thankyou - i was starting to lose confidence in this project - the Dyson i didn't find hard at all and that was a first too !!



Building a first PC isn't totally easy (there can be problems), But its in no way difficult.

I'm sure you can do it fine, I've never replaced a dyson motor, But i'm sure it more or less involves unscrewing the cover, Taking out the motor, Stick the new one in, Check all the connections again and screw it back together.

Its much the same for building a pc, Some parts slot in (like the ram) and some screw together (like the motherboard to the case and the PSU to the top of the case.)

Its worth noting though, There are some very good deals on PC's and many (like the dells) have a couple of years warranty, Which you won't get on all parts if you build it yourself.

Original Poster

Thanks- will take everything into consideration .

Iom-RF

I'd rubbish the above tbh

That's rather rude.

markwills

That's rather rude.



About as rude as making someone feel they aren't capable enough to build a pc.

Hey IOM it was just a few days ago you reached 5000 posts how on earth do you post so fast!

ryouga

Hey IOM it was just a few days ago you reached 5000 posts how on earth do … Hey IOM it was just a few days ago you reached 5000 posts how on earth do you post so fast!



Just like HUKD I suppose!, It wasn't long ago that I was on my first post!! :giggle:

markwills

That's true, but remember that incompatible pieces of hardware may also … That's true, but remember that incompatible pieces of hardware may also "slot" together, so it is important to ensure that you have bought the correct and compatible hardware before attempting assembly. That is true, and if you're thinking of building a PC yourself purely to save money, then you'll probably get a better deal if you buy a pre-assembled PC. Also it will be much less hassle.



Well they were both well balanced replies, Apologies for my harsh reply above.

But I think the reason Catwoman was originally asking, Was to make sure she bought compatible hardware.

markwills

I was giving my opinion regarding the original question - "how easy is it … I was giving my opinion regarding the original question - "how easy is it to build a computer for complete novice?". I think that my response was perfectly acceptable, warning against the dangers of buying hardware with which the novice user may have problems that they would not know how to solve, thus possibly wasting time and money.These days it is not cheaper to build a PC onesself, and I was highlighting this fact in case the OP was going down the self-build-PC route purely to save money.



I'd agree.

Reading back, It does look like I was rude, It would have been better if I said "I disagree" rather than "I rubbish the above", It makes it seem like your opinions aren't valid, Which isn't the case.

As above, Apologies.

I think the reason Catwoman originally asked, Was to make sure she bought compatible hardware though.

Iom-RF

I'd agree. Reading back, It does look like I was rude, It would have … I'd agree. Reading back, It does look like I was rude, It would have been better if I said "I disagree" rather than "I rubbish the above", It makes it seem like your opinions aren't valid, Which isn't the case.As above, Apologies.I think the reason Catwoman originally asked, Was to make sure she bought compatible hardware though.


No worries. I think I made the assumption that the OP was purely trying to build a cheaper PC which may indeed not be the case.

Self build PCs may be tricky, but can also be extremely rewarding and personally I love knowing exactly what's inside my machine.

ebuyer.com/UK/…082

this is the one I bought catwoman and I think it's real quality..you can buy a bottom of the range Core 2 CPU the 4300 and overclock it easily using the bios on this mobo....got mine overclocked at 20% at present and running really cool.

Original Poster

Thanks a lot everyone -that looks a good one to use currychops-thanks for help

HI Catwoman.

Hows the wireless network?

Have to agree with Currychops. I bought the Asus P5N-E myself a few months back and after spending several days with hard research, it was by far the best board, best reputation etc for the price.

Original Poster

Hi Simon,
The wireless network is fine - no problems-touch wood !!

Forget what people say on here. Building a pc is a matter of fitting 7 or 8 pieces together. Its easy stuff, really it is. If you have managed to get that wireless business sorted then building a PC is a walk in the park compared!

Think of it as a jigsaw puzzle, albeit with only a few very large pieces. Take your time and everything will be fine. Oh and if you are not sure, ask someone!

As for compatibility, its not as bad as people make out. Yes there are a few things that simply dont work with other things, but generally MOST things are compatible with each other.

Of course it help if you tell us what components you have or want and what you want to do with the computer itself when its built and then we can help from there.

Cheers
Simon

Ignore the bottom of that post, I've just seen the original one you posted a few days ago.

To be honest, £250 really is not a lot of money for something of decent quality.

However I suppose it is workable.

My advice is to spend as much money on the motherboard as you can and then build around that. The motherboard is really the base of the machine and will determine what if any upgrades you can and will be able to make in the future. Its no good making a machine now only to find out that you cant push that little bit of extra ooomph from it later down the line because of the limitiations of buying a cheap motherboard. What you dont want to do is to spend £250 now and then another £200 in a year or so to get it where you want to go, when you could have spent £350 now and saved yourself £100.

The motherboard will determine how much memory you can have, what speed of processor you can go up to, what hard drive's and how many you can install, what graphics card and optional cards you might want to install etc etc etc. This is the most fundimental part of the whole machine in regards to initial cost and future upgrades and should not be scrimped over.

You really want to be looking at around £60 - £80 for a good motherboard, which with your budget, does not leave a lot for the rest of the system.

Are you 100% sure that £250 is your max limit? I'd seriously consider leaving the build for a while until you can increase this figure as it will help you immensly down the road. If you are desperate then I can see what we can do with £250, but please don't expect miracles

Original Poster

Well,
I am thinking of getting one or two things each week , that way , i can afford to spend more - also i am giving my computer to a very good friend who has helped me out moneywise when i have been very short and couldn't afford to buy much food for myself. So, there is nothing coming out of the old computer.
I also will proably go with curry chops motherboard as it looks ok and its recommended on here !!

bigpockets.co.uk/pro…783

this was the base unit I referred too in my PM....basic but a far better deal than the ebay one.

hotukdeals.com/for…868

I see you can get this as a base unit for £190 and there's quidco.
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