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Found 14th Apr 2017
The Lokal website is dead, and is horrendous. The for sale/trade was a pillar stone of this site and it being gone has translated into a large number of users becoming inactive on this site.
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It's true the other site is dead and run by some german company. Last time i looked it was listed with fakes, business sellers & somebody selling some turf
Who's the bets on closing this up?

I'm going for Andy
I love Lokal.... sold loads of £100 amazon vouchers for £70 each, making loads of dosh I am
I must try and remember to send them though.
Edited by: "steve.t" 14th Apr 2017
Hate that the FS/FT section has gone, all that time spent getting a good rep down the drain, Lokal is dodgy, it seems worse than gumtree, ill never use it.
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shh we don't talk about Lokal
It's true the other site is dead and run by some german company. Last time i looked it was listed with fakes, business sellers & somebody selling some turf
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deleted57959

We are not allowed to discuss Lokal, this thread will be deleted or … We are not allowed to discuss Lokal, this thread will be deleted or locked.



I did a search before posting this to find out the general consensus.. and did find it out that I couldn't see anything similar posted for. Seemed unlikely to say the least. This website has gone downhill, and it I was once a daily user.
Expect the gestapo to remove this asap as there dont like any bad publicity for the crap that they have created.
The first rule of Lokal is you don't talk about Lokal!
deleted57959

We are not allowed to discuss Lokal, this thread will be deleted or … We are not allowed to discuss Lokal, this thread will be deleted or locked.



Apogee00

shh we don't talk about Lokal



Best **** it off before it gets removed then
Who's the bets on closing this up?

I'm going for Andy
deleted57959

You cant even google search it..


Haha funny comment X)
I love Lokal.... sold loads of £100 amazon vouchers for £70 each, making loads of dosh I am
I must try and remember to send them though.
Edited by: "steve.t" 14th Apr 2017
Hate that the FS/FT section has gone, all that time spent getting a good rep down the drain, Lokal is dodgy, it seems worse than gumtree, ill never use it.
Apogee00

Who's the bets on closing this up?I'm going for Andy


Looks like they are all on lokal looking for a deal hmmmmmmm so should be some time then
Edited by: "waterloo" 14th Apr 2017
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Snakeyes646

Hate that the FS/FT section has gone, all that time spent getting a good … Hate that the FS/FT section has gone, all that time spent getting a good rep down the drain, Lokal is dodgy, it seems worse than gumtree, ill never use it.



They even removed the feedback tab from the profile section on the website. I was going to check through my history just to see what I've bought and sold, but it's not there. That Lokal website doesn't show you either. Just seems extremely petty.
me. I miss it loads.
waterloo

It's true the other site is dead and run by some german company...



...that is part of the Pepper Deals Community...

[ uk.lokal.com/imp…int ]
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Imprint

Lokal.com Marketplace GmbH
Torstraße 164
10115 Berlin

Call us at: +4930 22012952 - Fax: +4930 91430456 or Email: cs@lokal.com

CEO: Simon Knapp

HR Amtsgericht Charlottenburg - HRB 167170 B - Ust-IdNr.: DE299921640
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[ 24.cx ]

Links to Twitter account: @abosgratis.

...and that account re-posts Tweets from @myDealZ.

[ mydealz.de ], as I said, is part of the Pepper Deals Community:

[ pepper.com ].
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Morning campers, not locking this up but also just making it clear that any feedback on Lokal needs to be directed to them.
If you don't want to use it, that's totally fine - there are other options out there but complaining on here about it isn't going to help Lokal to make changes or improve. As fanpages mentioned, Lokal is connected to our sister site and launched in DE first (hence the German details).

They're not unapproachable or uninterested in what you have to say, just email them and tell them your feedback and make constructive suggestions and work with them to improve the platform. Or don't. Up to you.
waterloo

ok es ist immer noch Mist



Others sites are available if you think Lokal is crap.

However, if you start to discuss other sites, & compare them to Lokal, this happens.

What use is a 'local' site in the UK regulated by German law? It seems neither designed to cater to locals nor even to UK residents. X)

Article, which violate § 86a of the German criminal code (e.g.: swastika)



Other than that it seems to be full of the old HUKD scammers and businesses. There seems to be no new feedback on the site? So, whilst established sellers can use their so-called 'reputation' for leverage, new users are at a permanent disadvantage? Does anyone see a problem with that? (_;)

just looked at lokal for the first time

what a mess!
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deleted57959

But is it OK, to discuss how unhappy we are at the loss of FS/FT and how … But is it OK, to discuss how unhappy we are at the loss of FS/FT and how it was handled, obviously within the rules of the forum.And thank you for not locking it up, because its when threads are locked it indirectly looks like there is a motive to that and as such most members and I will include myself feel we should be able to openly have a moan and grumble again within the rules.




Of course. Be pragmatic though guys - the speculation and the whys and whats are exhausting so just before anyone comes in with the usual comments:

1. No we didn't close it to sell it. It was a free platform for over ten years; speculating that it's been done for financial reasons is really predictable and miles from the truth. Hotukdeals will change this year, some members will hate it, some will leave, some will come back... That's what happens- indeed most of you have been around for long enough to be familiar with the cycle by now! The new update and the FS forum are not compatible.

2. No we haven't lost loads of users or activity. On the contrary, actually, but that's another discussion. Believe it or not, we're pretty capable of monitoring our own traffic numbers

3. We do care about our users, but we can't make everyone happy all of the time. We will make decisions that we feel are best for the platform and community as a whole, and we know that some longterm users will be upset by that but we're trying to refocus. Hotukdeals became a platform for so many things that the community started to split and form their own niche groups - that's a natural thing to happen when you get to a certain size and that's what we're focusing our next update on; some things will need to be scaled back / removed entirely for that to happen, though.

4. Just to reiterate, the Lokal team *are* based in Germany and yes localisation isn't ideal yet, but please feedback to them and tell them what you think!
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deleted57959

Does that mean we are going to see a visual site update?



Yeah - as soon as there's a beta for you all to test I'll stick something in feedback though. It won't be a hard switch

You wearing a "vBulletin4Lyfe" t-shirt?
Nah we've always been happy for power users to style things exactly as they want. I refer back to my earlier comment; we try but we can't keep everyone happy all of the time. When you use something so often you develop habits and preferences and those are obviously very subjective - so yep, personalisation is going to be an important part of our game-plan
Edited by: "juliet_bravo" 14th Apr 2017
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I still go to click the FS/FT section and die a bit inside when I remember it's not there.

Lol @ lokal mod team being in Germany.
juliet_bravo

Of course. Be pragmatic though guys - the speculation and the whys and … Of course. Be pragmatic though guys - the speculation and the whys and whats are exhausting so just before anyone comes in with the usual comments:1. No we didn't close it to sell it. It was a free platform for over ten years; speculating that it's been done for financial reasons is really predictable and miles from the truth. Hotukdeals will change this year, some members will hate it, some will leave, some will come back... That's what happens- indeed most of you have been around for long enough to be familiar with the cycle by now! The new update and the FS forum are not compatible.2. No we haven't lost loads of users or activity. On the contrary, actually, but that's another discussion. Believe it or not, we're pretty capable of monitoring our own traffic numbers :D3. We do care about our users, but we can't make everyone happy all of the time. We will make decisions that we feel are best for the platform and community as a whole, and we know that some longterm users will be upset by that but we're trying to refocus. Hotukdeals became a platform for so many things that the community started to split and form their own niche groups - that's a natural thing to happen when you get to a certain size and that's what we're focusing our next update on; some things will need to be scaled back / removed entirely for that to happen, though.4. Just to reiterate, the Lokal team *are* based in Germany and yes localisation isn't ideal yet, but please feedback to them and tell them what you think!


I dont think thats a fact (No2) i dont use HUKD even half as much as i used to since FS/FT went.
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Snakeyes646

I dont think thats a fact (No2) i dont use HUKD even half as much as i … I dont think thats a fact (No2) i dont use HUKD even half as much as i used to since FS/FT went.



Yea but you're talking about your personal habits. You. You aren't speaking on behalf of all users that use hotukdeals most hotukdeals members stick to the deals side - there are some users that only use certain parts of the site and that's exactly what I was referring to earlier when I mentioned personal site preferences being subjective. Yeah I absolutely agree that people who used FS/T often probably won't use hotukdeals as often, but that number of users is pretty small.. so on the big scale (in terms of numbers / traffic) it doesn't make any difference whatsoever to the site as a whole.

Ayaz13

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I've been to the old FS/FT section only a couple of times since joining and found nothing I was interested in - most of what I saw was gaming stuff and phones. I suppose hidden somewhere were the gems but I lost interest quickly.

HUKD is a deals site where you find deals - the occasional drop your hat and buy bargain, the weekly wild goose chase but mainly some good deals and/or reviews/info to save you money or help you decide and some bad deals.

For me (yes just me) there's been no change. I'm happy but then that's me
juliet_bravo

Yea but you're talking about your personal habits. You. You aren't … Yea but you're talking about your personal habits. You. You aren't speaking on behalf of all users that use hotukdeals most hotukdeals members stick to the deals side - there are some users that only use certain parts of the site and that's exactly what I was referring to earlier when I mentioned personal site preferences being subjective. Yeah I absolutely agree that people who used FS/T often probably won't use hotukdeals as often, but that number of users is pretty small.. so on the big scale (in terms of numbers / traffic) it doesn't make any difference whatsoever to the site as a whole.


I know for a fact many others are the same.:)
juliet_bravo

Of course. Be pragmatic though guys - the speculation and the whys and … Of course. Be pragmatic though guys - the speculation and the whys and whats are exhausting so just before anyone comes in with the usual comments:1. No we didn't close it to sell it. It was a free platform for over ten years; speculating that it's been done for financial reasons is really predictable and miles from the truth. Hotukdeals will change this year, some members will hate it, some will leave, some will come back... That's what happens- indeed most of you have been around for long enough to be familiar with the cycle by now! The new update and the FS forum are not compatible.2. No we haven't lost loads of users or activity. On the contrary, actually, but that's another discussion. Believe it or not, we're pretty capable of monitoring our own traffic numbers :D3. We do care about our users, but we can't make everyone happy all of the time. We will make decisions that we feel are best for the platform and community as a whole, and we know that some longterm users will be upset by that but we're trying to refocus. Hotukdeals became a platform for so many things that the community started to split and form their own niche groups - that's a natural thing to happen when you get to a certain size and that's what we're focusing our next update on; some things will need to be scaled back / removed entirely for that to happen, though.4. Just to reiterate, the Lokal team *are* based in Germany and yes localisation isn't ideal yet, but please feedback to them and tell them what you think!



Re: point 3 - some things will be removed entirely.... misc?
The global-local model rarely works well. Or usually its implemented so badly it fails. As appears to happened here.
Apogee00

Who's the bets on closing this up?I'm going for Andy


I'm gonna say either MagicJay or BeerDrinker
What sites are people using for buying and selling now... Bloody hate lokal, got stung for 50 quid on my first time there
miikeyblue

Re: point 3 - some things will be removed entirely.... misc?





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What happens in lokal, stays in lokal.:D

It seems like lokal is dead or going to like that phone site they had (forgot the name)
juliet_bravo

Morning campers, not locking this up but also just making it clear that … Morning campers, not locking this up but also just making it clear that any feedback on Lokal needs to be directed to them. If you don't want to use it, that's totally fine - there are other options out there but complaining on here about it isn't going to help Lokal to make changes or improve. As fanpages mentioned, Lokal is connected to our sister site and launched in DE first (hence the German details). They're not unapproachable or uninterested in what you have to say, just email them and tell them your feedback and make constructive suggestions and work with them to improve the platform. Or don't. Up to you.




Glad to see that this won't be locked unlike the other threads like this one. Odd that hotdealers can moan about any website on here and some threads stay active by new posters posting just to moan but moan about lokal an the threads got shut down. /(
Saturn



Just speculating... but it wouldn't surprise me. It would be a shame though - for all the trivial stuff, and the 'banter, it is actually pretty useful a lot of the time. There's so many clever and knowledgeable people here, and a lot of interesting threads that don't belong anywhere else.
Edited by: "miikeyblue" 14th Apr 2017
Massively!!
Yes, I miss the FS/FT section and also agree with everyone else that I don't like, or trust, lokal.

I understand why HUKD got rid of it, as it wasn't a revenue stream for them and took up quite a lot of mod time and effort, however, it was a thriving part of the website and it's a shame that they've got rid of it.
miikeyblue

Just speculating... but it wouldn't surprise me. It would be a shame … Just speculating... but it wouldn't surprise me. It would be a shame though - for all the trivial stuff, and the 'banter, it is actually pretty useful a lot of the time. There's so many clever and knowledgeable people here, and a lot of interesting threads that don't belong anywhere else.




They'd better not touch JHT! oO
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@sicklysweet as mentioned already, it's nothing to do with finance or revenue streams - I already mentioned the specific reason why we made this decision
MR1123

...It seems like lokal is dead or going to like that phone site they had … ...It seems like lokal is dead or going to like that phone site they had (forgot the name)



[ mobot.net ]

...or do you mean [ wareable.com ]?
Hey guys!

Mario from Lokal.com here, I just wanted to give a brief statement here:



Yes, it's true, we're from Germany. However, we try to ban business sellers as soon as possible if it's obvious.
Regarding the fakes: We can't always determine whether the item is faked or not; if it's obvious, the item will be deleted due to our TOS.

Well, turf is something you can trade on Lokal if you want to, but you could also sell this on the FS/T here, so that's not really an issue, just a common thing



Nah, that's not how we do it. We always appreciate the feedback of our users.



We're aware of these offers and are doing something about it.
I guess it's pretty obvious that offers like £100 Amazon for £70 are not serious, especially not by people with 0 feedback.

waterloo

It's true the other site is dead and run by some german company. Last … It's true the other site is dead and run by some german company. Last time i looked it was listed with fakes, business sellers & somebody selling some turf

waterloo

Expect the gestapo to remove this asap as there dont like any bad … Expect the gestapo to remove this asap as there dont like any bad publicity for the crap that they have created.

Ellie.Phant

I love Lokal.... sold loads of £100 amazon vouchers for £70 each, making l … I love Lokal.... sold loads of £100 amazon vouchers for £70 each, making loads of dosh I am :3I must try and remember to send them though.

Article, which violate § 86a of the German criminal code (e.g.: swastika)



That's something which has to do with German history, as you might know. Since we're from Germany, we have to adhere to German laws.

If you want to know the story of the § 86a of the German criminal code, I can recommend this Wikipedia article:

en.wikipedia.org/wik…86a

There is feedback on Lokal: It's just a bit different from HUKD since you have to accept an offer as seller and your offer as buyer has to be accepted by the seller. You'll receive an e-mail with further instructions how to give feedback. So it's not gone, just different

If you want to contact us directly, you can always write to use using the e-mail cs@lokal.com or by using the "Help"-button on our page.

We always appreciate any feedback given by users or guests since we want to deliver a good experience to you guys.

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