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who is right ? Burnley College or This muslim girl ?

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Found 24th Oct 2009
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Burnley is one of my local colleges and this is a story about a muslim girl refusing to take of her burka !

Now she will probably sue and seek legal action that she wont pay for !

Whats your thoughts ?

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is this the sixth form or the thomas whittam college

shouldnt be allowed , we should do what france does and ban them

Banned

river;6675614

shouldnt be allowed , we should do what france does and ban them



Your right!

Banned

the college is right

"Staff asked her to remove her burka - which covers everything but her eyes - for identity fraud purposes."

That's understandable she could be anyone under there!

College

This may not go down very well with a lot of people, or be seen as an uneducated and narrow minded point of view, but at the end of the day this is a Christian country, you abide by our rules. English people don't go to Muslim countries and walk around in Bikinis because "that's what we do at home". Remember the couple that got arrested for having sex on the beach in Dubai? They flaunted the law over there and they got punished for it. Why should we make exceptions?

The College is 100% correct for many many reasons

livingthelife07;6675635

"Staff asked her to remove her burka - which covers everything but her … "Staff asked her to remove her burka - which covers everything but her eyes - for identity fraud purposes."That's understandable she could be anyone under there!



with you on this

burnley is one of my loal colleges as well but was dissapointed with it when i went to the open evening

college. There's nowhere in her religion that states she has to wear it.

This is kinda similar....but the white rose in leeds banned all hoodies from been worn in the centre.....apparently becaus the CCTV couldnt see the persons face...which is fair enough....yet they still allow people to go in weating the full head to toe burkah thing.....completely unfair IMO...they should let the hoodies wear the hoods or ban all clothing that covers the face

Do I really need to say anymore? :?

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atigona;6675613

is this the sixth form or the thomas whittam college



sixth form college, read the article its a disgrace !! and the others are right they need banning like france (even the cowards stood up and banned it) - if they dont like it - tough! not saying they cant wear it at home or at mosque but when in a public place its tough unless its okay for people to wear balaclava's

Banned

looks like shes making a stand for the sake of it.......another pushing the boundaries in the name of rebellion

College, simples.

How is her burka going to effect her education or anyone elses, if she wants to wear it she should be able to, the college is wrong

Lilly_White;6675681

How is her burka going to effect her education or anyone elses, if she … How is her burka going to effect her education or anyone elses, if she wants to wear it she should be able to, the college is wrong


Could be ANYONE under them clothes:thumbsup:.
HTH.

james_lfc;6675672

sixth form college, read the article its a disgrace !! and the others are … sixth form college, read the article its a disgrace !! and the others are right they need banning like france (even the cowards stood up and banned it) - if they dont like it - tough! not saying they cant wear it at home or at mosque but when in a public place its tough unless its okay for people to wear balaclava's



maybe they need banning for public use asyou dont have to wear them as i am a muslim and i know.

mate do you go to this college as want to know how good it is

Lilly_White;6675681

How is her burka going to effect her education or anyone elses, if she … How is her burka going to effect her education or anyone elses, if she wants to wear it she should be able to, the college is wrong



nonsense,could be a man under there peeping in the ladies locker room,she could get someone else to take her exams...very very dangerous

should be banned in public for security reasons imo

baffledsalmon;6675645

This may not go down very well with a lot of people, or be seen as an … This may not go down very well with a lot of people, or be seen as an uneducated and narrow minded point of view, but at the end of the day this is a Christian country, you abide by our rules. English people don't go to Muslim countries and walk around in Bikinis because "that's what we do at home". Remember the couple that got arrested for having sex on the beach in Dubai? They flaunted the law over there and they got punished for it. Why should we make exceptions?



lol although thats a pretty good argument....we kinda do go 'over there' and wear bikinis etc....and indecent exposure/sex in a public place is illegal over here too so I dont really get your point there lol

t0mm;6675686

Could be ANYONE under them clothes:thumbsup:.HTH.



Anyone? wishing to sit in a classroom and study? Whats the harm

Lilly_White;6675681

How is her burka going to effect her education or anyone elses, if she … How is her burka going to effect her education or anyone elses, if she wants to wear it she should be able to, the college is wrong



I agree that wearing it doesnt affect her education but in this case how could the college know who she is, what if someone else sat her exams for example
For the record i also disagree with women wearing burkhas, not just in this country but in general

EDIT: Im also surprised that more crimes havent been commited by people disguising in a burkha, i remember that one of the 21/7 bombers escaped the country in one

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baffledsalmon;6675645

This may not go down very well with a lot of people, or be seen as an … This may not go down very well with a lot of people, or be seen as an uneducated and narrow minded point of view, but at the end of the day this is a Christian country, you abide by our rules. English people don't go to Muslim countries and walk around in Bikinis because "that's what we do at home". Remember the couple that got arrested for having sex on the beach in Dubai? They flaunted the law over there and they got punished for it. Why should we make exceptions?



100% AGREED !! ITS NOT NARROW MINDED - ITS RIGHT !

boothy;6675696

nonsense,could be a man under there peeping in the ladies locker room,she … nonsense,could be a man under there peeping in the ladies locker room,she could get someone else to take her exams...very very dangerousshould be banned in public for security reasons imo



Colleges don't have locker rooms for them to change in unless shes taken physical education, I'm sure with the exam situation a female could check it was her when she sat to take the exams, not dangerous at all

river;6675614

shouldnt be allowed , we should do what france does and ban them



toshapetriji;6675633

the college is right



Starr;6675640

College



boothy;6675649

The College is 100% correct for many many reasons



hypnoticstate;6675659

college. There's nowhere in her religion that states she has to wear it.



t0mm;6675678

College, simples.



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lil_tiger;6675698

lol although thats a pretty good argument....we kinda do go 'over there' … lol although thats a pretty good argument....we kinda do go 'over there' and wear bikinis etc....and indecent exposure/sex in a public place is illegal over here too so I dont really get your point there lol



Do you know anyone who would go to Iran and walk around dressed in hot pants and cropped top next to all the women wearing full Muslim clothing?

Original Poster

atigona;6675693

maybe they need banning for public use asyou dont have to wear them as i … maybe they need banning for public use asyou dont have to wear them as i am a muslim and i know.mate do you go to this college as want to know how good it is



No i dont mate, i go accrington academy which was my old school which turned to a sixth - which isnt too bad due to the small schools and we are having a £17m building built for next sept.

My cousin does tho doing public services and love it !

Im sure he'd be happy to give you some info on it

seanbwfc;6675625

Your right!



I agree it is her right.

baffledsalmon;6675746

Do you know anyone who would go to Iran and walk around dressed in hot … Do you know anyone who would go to Iran and walk around dressed in hot pants and cropped top next to all the women wearing full Muslim clothing? They'd get chucked in jail!



So you want this country to be like IRAN where people don't have choices? Its all about choice

lil_tiger;6675698

lol although thats a pretty good argument....we kinda do go 'over there' … lol although thats a pretty good argument....we kinda do go 'over there' and wear bikinis etc....and indecent exposure/sex in a public place is illegal over here too so I dont really get your point there lol



lol I agree, alcohol is served to westerners in most muslim countries because the demand is there for it.
And yeah Its illegal to have sex in public in the UK so the couple would have got in trouble here albeit a lot lot lighter punishment, maybe a telling off or a caution,

Banned

t0mm;6675686

Could be ANYONE under them clothes:thumbsup:.



Agreed.

Maybe she should go to Burka college instead of Burnley.

And people wonder why BNP wins votes!

The point is she could be anyone and without showing herself, the documents with her face on can go out the window as we dont have any clue who it is.

Btw are they allowed to have them on in a passport photo ?

guv;6675765

Agreed.Maybe she should go to Burka college instead of Burnley.And people … Agreed.Maybe she should go to Burka college instead of Burnley.And people wonder why BNP wins votes!



What is a Burka college?

guv;6675765

Agreed.Maybe she should go to Burka college instead of Burnley.And people … Agreed.Maybe she should go to Burka college instead of Burnley.And people wonder why BNP wins votes!



College called Burka?

Banned

Lilly_White;6675781

What is a Burka college?



its what the bnp will create if they get in power:roll:

otherwise known as concentration camp

Lilly_White;6675756

So you want this country to be like IRAN where people don't have choices? … So you want this country to be like IRAN where people don't have choices? Its all about choice



Where and when did I say I wanted this country to be like Iran? All I'm saying is that this is a Christian country. By all means worship whichever and how many bloomin' Gods you like, but when it's a matter of public safety and security, you can't just kick up a fuss because you want to wear an item of clothing?! As people have said, she could be ANYONE under there... One the lower levels it gives the option for someone else to take her exams for her, but what's to say it couldn't be a paedophile?! Does she go through customs with her face covered? No, and there's a reason for that.

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Naeem786;6675783

College called Burka?



Think he's taking the micky, made be chuckle anyway haha

Be/\/;6675780

The point is she could be anyone and without showing her self her … The point is she could be anyone and without showing her self her documents with her face on can go out teh window.Btw are they allowed to have them on in a passport photo ?



As i said before, where there is the need ie exams etc she would have to verify who she is to a female member of staff, as for the passport, yes she would have a passport photo and at airports she would have to show her face to female airport staff, there are things in place

Lilly_White;6675711

Anyone? wishing to sit in a classroom and study? Whats the harm


Funding?

If I was 28 and my sister was 17 and I wanted to go study in college.

All i'd have to do is sign up in her name and use a burkha, free education for me.

IDENTITY FRAUD laws are there for a reason.

I believe anyone who walks around wearing what is basically a religious uniform is being confrontational and it shouldnt be allowed in schools,

Lilly_White;6675756

So you want this country to be like IRAN where people don't have choices? … So you want this country to be like IRAN where people don't have choices? Its all about choice



Exactly, if the self richeous, racist *****s want to insist that our country is better, shouldn't we at least to try to behave better. The "if they do it, we can do it" argument doesn't hold water.

And just because it isn't mention in the Koran doesn't mean that it isn't a genuine part of their beliefs. half the catholic crap (praying to mary, purgotory etc.) isn't in the bible.
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