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    Who really believes that we went to the moon 40 years ago?

    I don't.

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    I know i didnt,

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    I dont either!

    2 shadows, hmmmm :? x

    Original Poster

    No stars, wind, no crater underneath the lander etc... etc... etc...

    I'm not convinced.

    I think we may have, but the footage was definitely faked.

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    grex9101;5850175

    I'm not convinced.I think we may have, but the footage was definitely … I'm not convinced.I think we may have, but the footage was definitely faked.



    Yep!

    They were desperate to beat Russia, unbelievable!!

    Wind making the flag flutter....how?!?! x

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    LOL @ you guies.

    I deffos think we did and if we didnt i bet we can now

    It never happened !!! (but don't tell Buzz Aldrin, he might punch you)
    youtube.com/wat…8hU

    Proof
    http://www.poisonedminds.com/b3tacrap/ClangersSmall.jpg

    Plus neil armstrong very very very very rarely ever showed his face in public.... why?

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    student_mummy;5850182

    Yep!They were desperate to beat Russia, unbelievable!!Wind making the … Yep!They were desperate to beat Russia, unbelievable!!Wind making the flag flutter....how?!?! x



    that was the shake from when he put it into the ground :whistling:

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    tonyg1962;5850191

    Proof



    Lol!!! :lol: x

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    bykergrove;5850197

    that was the shake from when he put it into the ground :whistling:



    thats what THEY would have you believe x

    I dont believe aeroplanes can fly ,

    student_mummy;5850182

    Yep!They were desperate to beat Russia, unbelievable!!Wind making the … Yep!They were desperate to beat Russia, unbelievable!!Wind making the flag flutter....how?!?! x



    they had wire mesh in the flag, if they didnt, the flag would look stupid just hanging there.

    These guys are up for it.
    http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/noallegiance666/alig.jpg

    deadduck_145;5850213

    they had wire mesh in the flag, if they didnt, the flag would look stupid … they had wire mesh in the flag, if they didnt, the flag would look stupid just hanging there.



    wire mesh making the flag move eh?

    we should harness this new eco friendly energy

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    deadduck_145;5850213

    they had wire mesh in the flag, if they didnt, the flag would look stupid … they had wire mesh in the flag, if they didnt, the flag would look stupid just hanging there.



    It was fluttering though, as if there was air!!

    Just impossible! And thats only one of lots of faults with the whole nonsense :thumbsup: xx

    The official statement was that "solar wind" made the flag move,
    which I believe comes from the sun.

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    Neil Armstrong/Buzz Aldrin believe they went to the moon

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    phatboy123;5850255

    The official statement was that "solar wind" made the flag move, which I … The official statement was that "solar wind" made the flag move, which I believe comes from the sun.



    lol, did they give an explanation for the 2 different shadows?!? :? :roll: x

    tinkerbell28;5850294

    Yeah we went to the moon, will they ever do it again no. It costs to much … Yeah we went to the moon, will they ever do it again no. It costs to much money, all the shuttles left are crap and all in all it's rather pointless, we need to get our own planet in order first.:thumbsup:



    Screw that,

    nuke mars big style which will create an atmosphere.

    in 1000 years time it will be habitable. sorted. :-D

    student_mummy;5850288

    lol, did they give an explanation for the 2 different shadows?!? :? … lol, did they give an explanation for the 2 different shadows?!? :? :roll: x



    no idea,
    love a good conspiracy theory though helps keep your mind open,
    just don't take them too seriously. :-D

    I thought the flag was said that it was springy and thats why when the astronaut walked past it it didn't move.

    There was a whole show destroying each theory except the one about the rock with the C on it (but NASA said it was just a hair falling on the picture when it was being processed).

    i don't

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    phatboy123;5850308

    no idea, love a good conspiracy theory though helps keep your mind … no idea, love a good conspiracy theory though helps keep your mind open,just don't take them too seriously. :-D



    yep lol, i had everyone in my class hooked when i showed them the dvd on my lappy haha :lol:

    Have you seen Loose Change? xx

    im not sure, cos yes the flag was blowing there was 2 shadows etc, how do you explain that, but if they faked it they would surely have dne it indors or at night either way there should have been no shadows in the fake and surely they arnt stupid enough to do it outside if its windy lol, but if theyed faked it inside why would they make a wind lol im not sure

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    micoo;5850483

    im not sure, cos yes the flag was blowing there was 2 shadows etc, how do … im not sure, cos yes the flag was blowing there was 2 shadows etc, how do you explain that, but if they faked it they would surely have dne it indors or at night either way there should have been no shadows in the fake and surely they arnt stupid enough to do it outside if its windy lol, but if theyed faked it inside why would they make a wind lol im not sure



    A = they are stupid!!

    Plus they were very desperate to 'beat' Russia :thumbsup: they would have done anything so save face xxx

    student_mummy;5850445

    yep lol, i had everyone in my class hooked when i showed them the dvd on … yep lol, i had everyone in my class hooked when i showed them the dvd on my lappy haha :lol: Have you seen Loose Change? xx



    isn't that about 9/11? love your quote thingy BTW

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    EADG123;5850516

    isn't that about 9/11? love your quote thingy BTW



    thanks

    Yeh its about 9/11. Its really good!

    I also love Michael Moore's films, Sicko and Bowling for Columbine :thumbsup:

    Alot of people hate him but i think hes fab! :-D xx

    i saw some 9/11 conspiracy stuff thingies on youtube, they were really really interesting! i love owt like that me.
    though to be honest, i think i was a bit kinda 'over-convinced' by them, just because they took an objective sort of view on the whole thing, rather than just accepting that it was all down to 'terrorists', even though the US are the biggest terrorists out there, so it's kind of half right,.i don't know. ha.
    got to go due to the red-dot that just shone in my eyes through the window. haha.

    student_mummy;5850182

    Yep!They were desperate to beat Russia, unbelievable!!



    This is the key fact. We are expected to believe that Apollo 11 reached the moon, landed, and returned, utilizing less power than is needed to run a Nokia 3210? But they have not managed it in the 40 years since?
    Just like we are expected to believe that JFK was assassinated by LH Oswald, who was in turn killed by J Ruby, who in turn mysteriously dies in prison before his trial? The US during the mid 60s to mid 70s was one of the most disgusting, devious, competitive, paranoid and downright tyranical empires the world has ever known. If the establishment could kill a president and get away with it, they could definately fake a moon landing. No doubt in my mind at all.

    WE will find out in the next 10 years if they really went when Chona get there, they should still find the flag and Rover, I am but hoping we really went lol

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    student_mummy;5850498

    A = they are stupid!! :pPlus they were very desperate to 'beat' Russia … A = they are stupid!! :pPlus they were very desperate to 'beat' Russia :thumbsup: they would have done anything so save face xxx


    I cant believe that people seriously believe they made it all up and managed to cover it up for 40 years. Don't you think Russia would have noticed that?

    Anyway, for those who cant be bothered to research it. Fluttering flag is solar winds. Two shadows:-

    [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]Shadows cast on the lunar surface should be parallel. Some shadows in the Apollo photos are not parallel indicating more than one light source, thus the photos are fakes. [/SIZE][/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]Again there is a sound explanation; it is a simple a matter of perspective. A photo is a two-dimensional representation of a three-dimensional world, hence parallel lines may not appear as such on film. We all know how lines on a highway appear to diverge as they approach the observer, yet we know they are parallel. Another important factor that comes into play here is the slope of the ground. Let's consider two shadows - one cast on an upward slope and the other on a downward slope. If viewed from the side, these shadows would appear to go off in different directions. However, if viewed from high above, they would be seen as parallel. In other words, looks can be deceiving. There is no evidence of NASA trickery here. [/SIZE][/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]This photograph ][see photo], taken on Earth, is an excellent example illustrating how perspective causes shadows to appear non-parallel when seen on film. In this example ][see photo] the astronaut on the right is standing on a small rise. The sloping ground has caused his shadow to elongate and appear at a different angle than the shadow of the astronaut on the left. Also note, if two spotlights produced the shadows then each astronaut would have two shadows.
    [/SIZE][/FONT]


    [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]Source:-[/SIZE][/FONT]


    [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]http://www.braeunig.us/space/hoax.htm[/SIZE][/FONT]


    [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]clavius.org/
    [/SIZE][/FONT]

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    Chuckles1001;5851024

    WE will find out in the next 10 years if they really went when Chona get … WE will find out in the next 10 years if they really went when Chona get there, they should still find the flag and Rover, I am but hoping we really went lol


    I think we'll find out sooner than that:-

    the first images of the moon returned from NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, were released on July 2.

    The spacecraft, which launched on June 18, only recently turned on its imaging system, dubbed LROC. The system includes a wide-angle camera with a resolution of 330 feet (100 meters) and two narrow-angle cameras that can see features down to 3.3 feet (1 meter) across.

    Over at least a year, the orbiter will take pictures and collect data to make new high-resolution maps of the lunar surface


    As the eagle is 9m across, we should get pictures from the landing site within a year.

    Personnally I don't think they did go as there's a lot of evidence to suggest it just wasn't possible with the technology available to them at the time. I wish I did beleive it 100% as it would have been an amazing achievement, but I'm just not convinced.

    Whether they did or didn't there were some glaring 'errors' in the production (for dramatic purpose?) such as:

    Who was standing on the moon surface, holding the camera pointing at Neil Armstrong as he took the first step onto the moon? Surely the cameraman was the first!!!!! :w00t:

    To those who quote websites as proof that they went, come on, get real! Have you not learnt by now ANYONE can write ANYTHING on the net! :whistling:

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    Haha..... I love all the conspircay theorists.

    Of course they went there. I can undestand the notion of why they'd fake it, but unclear why the would and the mighty Russians wouldn't have shouted foul.

    Having seen a rocket launch from Cape Canaviral, all I can say is that's one hell of a budget spend for a film set.

    (PS - I don't beleive they have Geo-sync satellites up there either. Satellite TV is faked, GPS is some unknown peice of trickery and that object I see fly over (known as ISS), is just an aircraft to enhance the illusion.)

    Trickyjabs;5851225

    Who was standing on the moon surface, holding the camera pointing at Neil … Who was standing on the moon surface, holding the camera pointing at Neil Armstrong as he took the first step onto the moon? Surely the cameraman was the first!!!!! :w00t:



    Wow.... that cameraman had a rough job not getting the applause he deserved. Especially with the external shots he did when it was coming into land and looking back on the lunar orbitor.

    Or maybe it was just that they had extenal cameras fitted to the lunar module!!!!

    guv;5851308

    Or maybe it was just that they had extenal cameras fitted to the lunar … Or maybe it was just that they had extenal cameras fitted to the lunar module!!!!


    Now, now Guv - if you keep coming up with explanations like that, you'll spoil all their fun.....

    (PS you are one lucky man to have seen a rocket launch - one of these days I hope to see the Saturn 5 rocket they have on display.....)

    If they hadn't gone to the moon the Russians would have exposed them and there would have been thousands of people involved in the conspiracy, by now one of them would have sold the story..........

    If anyone here has Sky Anytime, they have the mythbusters special where they went through the various conspiracy theories which was genuinely interesting.

    They created a replica of the moon enrvironment with a large light serving as the sun with a lunar module model and two rocks, to begin with all the shadows were parallel as expected. However by remodelling the terrain to make it uneven they were able to reproduce the shadows at an angle for the rocks.

    The flag that was placed had a metal rod that ran across the top of the flag otherwise it would have hung flat, to test this aspect they had a similar design of flag which they placed first within normal atmosphere and then within a vacuum. In the normal atmosphere the flag swung a couple of times but stopped moving soon after and held still. However in the vacuum with no air resistance to slow down the motion, the flag continually moved in a pendulum motion then eventually it stopped in a 'crumpled' position rather than falling straight.

    They also attempted to simulate a moonwalk first by slowing footage down then by attaching a cable to simulate 1/6 gravity. Finally they went into a plane which dived to simulate 1/6 gravity, they compared all three of their clips to the original footage and the plane footage was definitely the closest to the originals.

    I've always been sceptical of the moon landing and still was when the program started particularly because any response to moon hoaxs have been pretty weak in comparison to the evidence that it is a hoax. But the program was far more convincing in that it visually demonstrated the different issues and showed how they were possible.

    John

    I'm now waiting for the 9/11 was plotted by the US Government, Princess Diana was killed by the Secret Service and Elvis faked his death threads. lol

    I believe they didn't land on the moon, and i also believe that the goverment are trying to read my brainwaves which is why i always wear i tinfoil hat.






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