Who's​ know about GPU's

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Found 15th Mar
if you know about GPUs I need help

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It's easier to actually just post the question

Oliver_Warden8

if you know about GPUs I need help



Like, in general?

Hello I'm here to help!

I've used a Golf Putting Unit before, what's the problem?

Dont buy anything above £150 until june, the market is in flux at the moment.

Below £150 get a 1050ti

Yes, best card to buy is a 3DFX Voodoo 4500.

118luke

Yes, best card to buy is a 3DFX Voodoo 4500.



I prefer the 9700 pro. A top of the range £400 card with under 50W power draw.

EndlessWaves

I prefer the 9700 pro. A top of the range £400 card with under 50W power … I prefer the 9700 pro. A top of the range £400 card with under 50W power draw.


This man is right, can run minesweeper at 15fps on high settings

HasanG

This man is right, can run minesweeper at 15fps on high settings



What if he wants super ultra duluxe mega settings and a 64*64 grid?

Make sure it's ISA compatible.

Original Poster

Just wanted to know people opinion's on old GPUs I'm building a super cheap pc and need a super cheap GPU...

Still not enough info!!

8800gtx

Oliver_Warden8

Just wanted to know people opinion's on old GPUs I'm building a super … Just wanted to know people opinion's on old GPUs I'm building a super cheap pc and need a super cheap GPU...



​onboard is fine

Oliver_Warden8

Just wanted to know people opinion's on old GPUs I'm building a super … Just wanted to know people opinion's on old GPUs I'm building a super cheap pc and need a super cheap GPU...



Old as in second hand or old as in the older models still available for sale under £100 (R7 240/GT 730 etc.)?

The former can be reasonable buys, although you need to bear in mind they'll be noisier and have higher heat output than the newest card offering the same performance.

The latter tend to be poor value for money. The GDDR5 versions of an R7 250 or GT 740 are around twice as fast as integrated graphics. That's a good improvement but the problem is that they're only around £20 cheaper than an RX 460, which is around five times faster than integrated graphics.

In terms of buying new the only thing that makes sense from a performance perspective below a G4560 + RX 460 is the integrated graphics of an A8-7600 or G4600.

And if you don't need GPU performance than integrated graphics are more up to date too.

Original Poster

CPU- SL9CB
Mobo - d945gtp
PSU - CIT 500CB
HDD - 80GB Toshiba
DVD ROM Drive

So i need DDR2 ram looking for the same age price wise ram...

but GPU i don't really know old GPUs so thinking what type of GPU would go well and for cheap as well

Whoa, pretty much anything cheap that's PCIe

To get the most out of the onboard (GMA950) you could try Intellimodder PHGDG Sapphire GR - I've tried them on a Netbook (also cover the GMA3150 of its Atom N450) and performance increase was startling - 3dMark03 Wings of fury went from slideshow to watchable - though maybe not a playable frame rate.
mediafire.com/fil….7z
Bypassing annoying link shortener and broken forum links

Depends what you want to do with it, even with the Sapphire driver helping it, the GMA950 is still limited to DX9 capability, and weak for a DX9.

Have a look at some of the relics unearthed (from ebay or CeX) by youtube.com/cha…pRg
Low end hardware, or putting a few quid GPU on a decent CPU or pairing the cheapest CPU with decent graphics.

As for CeX, they are not experts, they get things wrong...
Try searching computing .... graphics cards
Select "available to buy online" - the "in stock" option does not seem to work properly, and then sort by lowest price (darn, gave away my best trick)
Now unless it's a deliberate "legacy" build, avoid anything lower than 512MB (maybe even 1GB) and anything below DX10 (possibly DX11).
Errors? The Geforce 710 GT (no such thing, it would be a GT710 and is DX11 capable, as is the GT720).

Best £15 card there at the moment? Comparing via GPUboss and filtering some of their notoriously incorrect results.
Red team (ATI) - HD 5830 - Sky diver factor of 164.3 - but EATS POWER - 175W
Green team (Nvidia) GT720 - Sky diver factor of 65.24 and sips just 19W
Nvidia GT630 - Sky diver factor of 99.73 and an in the middle power of 65W

The HD7750 at £28 has about the same level of performance as the HD5830 and a more refined 55W power consumption, and is also a GCN core, meaning it gets current AMD(formerly ATI) drivers.

Unless you care only about performance and not one jot about power usage, I would not recommend the HD5830 - it's got very good performance for the £15 price level (maybe the YouTube guy will bite), but the power consumption is a disgrace, putting it in the 2x PCI-E power connector class

As you can get a complete PC that's half the age for £60 I guess this is some sort of legacy/retro machine for running old programs through Windows XP?

You still haven't said what the GPU will do. Is it just for monitor output or will you be using the processing power?

I'd say probably stick to a Radeon 3000 or above or Geforce 8000 or above (which includes all the 3 digit geforces) as that'll give you the hardware H.264 decoders for better video playback.

If you need some grunt then I'm not sure what the cheapest models would be. Maybe a mid-range Radeon 5000 or Geforce 400?

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matth9999

To get the most out of the onboard (GMA950) you could try Intellimodder … To get the most out of the onboard (GMA950) you could try Intellimodder PHGDG Sapphire GR - I've tried them on a Netbook (also cover the GMA3150 of its Atom N450) and performance increase was startling - 3dMark03 Wings of fury went from slideshow to watchable - though maybe not a playable frame rate.http://www.mediafire.com/file/48gwclth7k8tx75/PHDGD+Sapphire+GR+%5BA1%5D.7zBypassing annoying link shortener and broken forum linksDepends what you want to do with it, even with the Sapphire driver helping it, the GMA950 is still limited to DX9 capability, and weak for a DX9.Have a look at some of the relics unearthed (from ebay or CeX) by https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUzjKyS5r72bfvPkA6GxpRgLow end hardware, or putting a few quid GPU on a decent CPU or pairing the cheapest CPU with decent graphics.As for CeX, they are not experts, they get things wrong...Try searching computing .... graphics cardsSelect "available to buy online" - the "in stock" option does not seem to work properly, and then sort by lowest price (darn, gave away my best trick)Now unless it's a deliberate "legacy" build, avoid anything lower than 512MB (maybe even 1GB) and anything below DX10 (possibly DX11).Errors? The Geforce 710 GT (no such thing, it would be a GT710 and is DX11 capable, as is the GT720).Best £15 card there at the moment? Comparing via GPUboss and filtering some of their notoriously incorrect results.Red team (ATI) - HD 5830 - Sky diver factor of 164.3 - but EATS POWER - 175WGreen team (Nvidia) GT720 - Sky diver factor of 65.24 and sips just 19WNvidia GT630 - Sky diver factor of 99.73 and an in the middle power of 65WThe HD7750 at £28 has about the same level of performance as the HD5830 and a more refined 55W power consumption, and is also a GCN core, meaning it gets current AMD(formerly ATI) drivers.Unless you care only about performance and not one jot about power usage, I would not recommend the HD5830 - it's got very good performance for the £15 price level (maybe the YouTube guy will bite), but the power consumption is a disgrace, putting it in the 2x PCI-E power connector class



​Thank you so much for the info! yeah i subbed on YouTube to him that KS for the help again.

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EndlessWaves

As you can get a complete PC that's half the age for £60 I guess this is … As you can get a complete PC that's half the age for £60 I guess this is some sort of legacy/retro machine for running old programs through Windows XP?You still haven't said what the GPU will do. Is it just for monitor output or will you be using the processing power?I'd say probably stick to a Radeon 3000 or above or Geforce 8000 or above (which includes all the 3 digit geforces) as that'll give you the hardware H.264 decoders for better video playback.If you need some grunt then I'm not sure what the cheapest models would be. Maybe a mid-range Radeon 5000 or Geforce 400?



​Yeah it's a retro machine I'm making... I've got a 1080 in my everyday machine but i wanted to make something different
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