why do People write xmas and not CHRISTMAS?

I hate it when people write it
for many people Christmas is the most wonderful time of the year why put the x? aggressive secularism?

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Its easier.

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No1 cares if you hate it, its just a way of shortning it and every1 knows what its reffering to so why moan? Ebenezer scrooge

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true but it drives me mad!!!!

I hate people who hate people that use xmas

Laziness.

Do you get annoyed by "ur", "lol" and or "brb" too?
Edited by: "oldmanhouse" 21st Nov 2010

doesnt bother me,but I know plenty people who get upset by it-one woman I used to work with actually considers it blasphemy to write xmas! While it doesnt personally bother me,I wonder why you never see other religions festivals "shortened" in this way in newspapers etc? scared of causing offence maybe?

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DEALSALIKE

No1 cares if you hate it, its just a way of shortning it and every1 knows … No1 cares if you hate it, its just a way of shortning it and every1 knows what its reffering to so why moan? Ebenezer Scrooge



I may be many things but Scrooge is most certainly not one of them, maybe the term is better suited to your uncaring personality lol

you'd struggle to shorten Eid though


E?

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oldmanhouse

Laziness. Do you get annoyed by "ur", "lol" and or "brb" too?



nope but Christmas is different

I've noticed this year that eBay have referred to it as 'the holidays' as in 'Get it in time for the holidays.' Grrrr.

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Bully

I hate people who hate people that use xmas



I do not hate the ppl just the use of x

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barky

doesnt bother me,but I know plenty people who get upset by it-one woman I … doesnt bother me,but I know plenty people who get upset by it-one woman I used to work with actually considers it blasphemy to write xmas! While it doesnt personally bother me,I wonder why you never see other religions festivals "shortened" in this way in newspapers etc? scared of causing offence maybe?



Thank you at last someone gets the point

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i've always wondered where the x came from?

why not Cmas?

does the x signify the cross? as in crossmas? like hot cross buns?

miles136

I do not hate the ppl just the use of x



I hate people who use the abbreviation 'ppl' for 'people'.

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Carley

I've noticed this year that eBay have referred to it as 'the holidays' as … I've noticed this year that eBay have referred to it as 'the holidays' as in 'Get it in time for the holidays.' Grrrr.



lol yes I agree, on Hol in Florida last Christmas we wished ppl merry Christmas loads of americans siad "O thank you" ppl do not say that any more it is much better, even a jewish lady thanked us

if the pc brigade get their way, CHRISTmas will be banned, so as to not offend any other faiths.

barky

...While it doesnt personally bother me,I wonder why you never see other … ...While it doesnt personally bother me,I wonder why you never see other religions festivals "shortened" in this way in newspapers etc? scared of causing offence maybe?



Nonsense, and not at all, and you do, open your eyes and stop being so narrow minded. Its been called Xmas for centuries. Do Muslims take great offense at the abbreviated 'Eid'. I don't think so.

scrumpypaul

you'd struggle to shorten Eid thoughE?



'Eid' is an abbreviation!
Edited by: "jah128" 21st Nov 2010

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bykergrove

i've always wondered where the x came from?why not Cmas? does the x … i've always wondered where the x came from?why not Cmas? does the x signify the cross? as in crossmas? like hot cross buns?



No it comes from times when those who did not beleive in Christ refuse even to write his name so use X and not Christ mas

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miles136

I do not hate the ppl just the use of x


i hate it when people write PPL instead of PEOPLE

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boabbyrab

if the pc brigade get their way, CHRISTmas will be banned, so as to not … if the pc brigade get their way, CHRISTmas will be banned, so as to not offend any other faiths.



ohhhh get over yourself

Carley

I've noticed this year that eBay have referred to it as 'the holidays' as … I've noticed this year that eBay have referred to it as 'the holidays' as in 'Get it in time for the holidays.' Grrrr.



yeh, getting all American, like a lot of things nowadays ie-trick or treat !

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miles136

No it comes from times when those who did not beleive in Christ refuse … No it comes from times when those who did not beleive in Christ refuse even to write his name so use X and not Christ mas



Wrong.

"Xmas" is a common abbreviation of the word "Christmas". It is sometimes pronounced /ˈɛksməs/, but it, and variants such as "Xtemass", originated as handwriting abbreviations for the typical pronunciation, /ˈkrɪsməs/. The "-mas" part is from the Latin-derived Old English word for "mass",[1] while the "X" comes from the Greek letter Chi, which is the first letter of the Greek word Χριστός, translated as "Christ".

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In the United Kingdom and among the English, use of "Xmas" is found in a letter from George Woodward in 1753.[7] Lord Byron used the term in 1811,[8] as did Samuel Coleridge (1801)[3] and Lewis Carroll (1864).[8] In the United States, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. used the term in a letter dated 1923.[8] Since at least the late 19th century, "Xmas" has been in use in various other English-language nations. Quotations with the word can be found in texts written in Canada,[9] and the word has been used in Australia,[5] and in the Caribbean.[10] Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English Usage stated that modern use of the term is largely limited to advertisements, headlines and banners, where its conciseness is valued.

miles136

No it comes from times when those who did not beleive in Christ refuse … No it comes from times when those who did not beleive in Christ refuse even to write his name so use X and not Christ mas



Source?

It comes from the Greek spelling of Christ, which begins with a Chi (Χ)
Edited by: "jah128" 21st Nov 2010

bykergrove

Wrong."Xmas" is a common abbreviation of the word "Christmas". It is … Wrong."Xmas" is a common abbreviation of the word "Christmas". It is sometimes pronounced /ˈɛksməs/, but it, and variants such as "Xtemass", originated as handwriting abbreviations for the typical pronunciation, /ˈkrɪsməs/. The "-mas" part is from the Latin-derived Old English word for "mass",[1] while the "X" comes from the Greek letter Chi, which is the first letter of the Greek word Χριστός, translated as "Christ".



I knew that. Still I am one of those who get annoyed seeing the X there instead of the full word. It's not used by super clever people who KNOW how it came about, but by lazy people who can't be bothered to find a bigger bit of paper for their signage.

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jah128

Source? It comes from the Greek spelling of Christ, which begins with a … Source? It comes from the Greek spelling of Christ, which begins with a Chi ()



dailymail.co.uk

probably

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bykergrove

Wrong."Xmas" is a common abbreviation of the word "Christmas". It is … Wrong."Xmas" is a common abbreviation of the word "Christmas". It is sometimes pronounced /ˈɛksməs/, but it, and variants such as "Xtemass", originated as handwriting abbreviations for the typical pronunciation, /ˈkrɪsməs/. The "-mas" part is from the Latin-derived Old English word for "mass",[1] while the "X" comes from the Greek letter Chi, which is the first letter of the Greek word Χριστός, translated as "Christ".



You are only partly true, I accept the above and am very familiar with that argument, but that is not why it came into use in english speaking counties I stand by my comment

Happy Xmas.

Surely those who didn't believe in Christ would not recognise Christmas, and have pretty much next to no time for writing the word.

jah128

Nonsense, and not at all, and you do, open your eyes and stop being so … Nonsense, and not at all, and you do, open your eyes and stop being so narrow minded. Its been called Xmas for centuries. Do Muslims take great offense at the abbreviated 'Eid'. I don't think so.



narrow minded?? wtf are you talking about? I clearly stated it didnt bother me but wondered what would happen if the same applied to other religious festivals-thats all ffs! eid is used by muslims is it not,it was not coined by newspapers which was also the point I was trying to make.

If a newspaper discussing the muslim religion was to refer to "the prophet MO" would that be acceptable? if not,why not?SOME muslims take great offence at giving the wrong name to a teddy bear do they not?? or did I just imagine that? I clearly stated I personally didnt care,but understand why others might be-in the same way that in all religions some things that are acceptable to some are not to others. This is called OPEN mindedness,seeing everyones point of view and you construe it as NARROW minded??

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miles136

You are only partly true, I accept the above and am very familiar with … You are only partly true, I accept the above and am very familiar with that argument, but that is not why it came into use in english speaking counties I stand by my comment



elaborate.

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scrumpypaul

you'd struggle to shorten Eid thoughE?



Eid is already shortened down.

barky

narrow minded?? wtf are you talking about? I clearly stated it didnt … narrow minded?? wtf are you talking about? I clearly stated it didnt bother me but wondered what would happen if the same applied to other religious festivals-thats all ffs! eid is used by muslims is it not,it was not coined by newspapers which was also the point I was trying to make.If a newspaper discussing the muslim religion was to refer to "the prophet MO" would that be acceptable? if not,why not?SOME muslims take great offence at giving the wrong name to a teddy bear do they not?? or did I just imagine that? I clearly stated I personally didnt care,but understand why others might be-in the same way that in all religions some things that are acceptable to some are not to others. This is called OPEN mindedness,seeing everyones point of view and you construe it as NARROW minded??



You are completely wrong to suggest that you neither see other religious festivals shortened in this way (as newspapers regularly refer to Eid) and to imply that "Xmas" was coined by newspapers. Neither is true, and you are narrow minded if you believe that they are true and based on the grounds of 'political correctness'.

does it really matter ??? !!! its a word and how you choose to write it or what you believe in /or not is an individual preference..................yes a lot of people see it as a very religious time , thats great but for me its time to spoil my kids and see there happy faces on xmas /christmas morning and spend much needed quality time with family :D................oh and to stuff my face X)

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wow 18 mins and 32 comments I IS BACK LOL

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Penny Saver

Surely those who didn't believe in Christ would not recognise Christmas, … Surely those who didn't believe in Christ would not recognise Christmas, and have pretty much next to no time for writing the word.



so people that don't believe in christ are busier than people that do?

who are these people btw? journalists?

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shopstilldrops

does it really matter ??? !!! its a word and how you choose to write it … does it really matter ??? !!! its a word and how you choose to write it or what you believe in /or not is an individual preference..................yes a lot of people see it as a very religious time , thats great but for me its time to spoil my kids and see there happy faces on xmas /christmas morning and spend much needed quality time with family :D................oh and to stuff my face X)



Bless

Carley

I've noticed this year that eBay have referred to it as 'the holidays' as … I've noticed this year that eBay have referred to it as 'the holidays' as in 'Get it in time for the holidays.' Grrrr.



You know it's not just Christmas right?

op - I dislike it also. Although my friends take the mick out of me because I use proper punctuation in text messages, so I'm far from normal....

bykergrove boabbyrabif the pc brigade get their way, CHRISTmas will be … bykergrove boabbyrabif the pc brigade get their way, CHRISTmas will be banned, so as to not offend any other faiths.ohhhh get over yourself


oh really, have a butchers

Have to agree with the OP here.
As an, ok, summat lapsed Catholic (mind, who on here can honestly say they follow their own religion to EVERY doctrine there in) i find it offensive to drop the Christ from Christmas no matter what the reasons, heritage or laziness etc etc.
I am not gonna go down the other religions path it's just gonna end up in a row but for those who ask, who cares, i step forward and say, i do.
Christmas is no longer the festival it once was like many other festivals, shops and commerce have took over

Edited by: "boydent999" 21st Nov 2010
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