Posted 5th Jan 2022
Hi All,

wondering if there is any networking specialists on here.

I'm looking at Ethernet back-hauling my current 3 x Deco M5's (only just fully understood the benefit lol)

so i'm wanting to hard wire the meshs together, which is the best way of doing it as i'm not sure which one will work.


1 - Base 1 Unit wired to Base 2 which is then wired to Base 3?

or

2 - Base 1 unit wired to Base 2 and base unit wires again to Base 3?


also, further down the line, looking at installing a switch, so would that go between Base and the base 2 unit?

sorry, new to all of this, apoolgoies if i've missed anything obvious here.

thanks
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    no to 2
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    Bertz9905/01/2022 12:14

    no to 2


    thank you, do you know if splitters can work on these?

    I.e .... base unit cable split just before unit 2 and then the second wires thats been split wired to unit 3?
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    h.s05/01/2022 12:22

    thank you, do you know if splitters can work on these?I.e .... base unit …thank you, do you know if splitters can work on these?I.e .... base unit cable split just before unit 2 and then the second wires thats been split wired to unit 3?


    I'm speculating as I don't know

    How to set up Ethernet Backhaul with your Deco devices - Home Network Community (tp-link.com)

    tp-link states it needs to be daisy chained (option 1) unless you have a switch and further notes in Q4 that some switches do not forward 1905.1 protocol - which suggests their own internal switch on the ports in the deco itself doesn't. So if that be the case how would unit 2 and unit 3 resolve each other and hence splitting the cable (something I also think very dirty) is not going to give you your desired result.

    YMMV
    Edited by: "Bertz99" 5th Jan
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    My decos go main deco into a switch then out to 2 Other decos from the switch so essentially that’s your option 2. All works fine
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    howarth305/01/2022 13:55

    My decos go main deco into a switch then out to 2 Other decos from the …My decos go main deco into a switch then out to 2 Other decos from the switch so essentially that’s your option 2. All works fine


    great thank you... which switch are you using? i have read that not all are compatible with tp-link?
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    h.s05/01/2022 15:00

    great thank you... which switch are you using? i have read that not all …great thank you... which switch are you using? i have read that not all are compatible with tp-link?



    NETGEAR 5 Port Gigabit Ethernet Unmanaged Network Switch (GS205) - Desktop or Wall Mount, Home Network Hub, Ethernet Splitter, Plug-and-Play, Silent Operation amazon.co.uk/dp/…MNM
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    h.s05/01/2022 12:22

    thank you, do you know if splitters can work on these?I.e .... base unit …thank you, do you know if splitters can work on these?I.e .... base unit cable split just before unit 2 and then the second wires thats been split wired to unit 3?


    Yes, splitters dedicate half the wires in each cable to one or the other so it works with anything, but does limit you to Fast Ethernet speeds (100Mbps) as gigabit ethernet needs all the wires. You're generally better off using a Switch in that scenario.

    It's hard to say what your best cable routing would be for connecting the units without knowing the layout of your house and their position. Routing all the cables to a central position does have the advantage that nothing's depending on the middle access point, so you only have to upgrade that if the part of the house it's serving needs more bandwidth.
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    howarth305/01/2022 13:55

    My decos go main deco into a switch then out to 2 Other decos from the …My decos go main deco into a switch then out to 2 Other decos from the switch so essentially that’s your option 2. All works fine


    nope that is option three of adding a switch which OP stated later in their equation although you can also add a switch before your first deco as option 4 or go the whole hog and have switches both before and after as option 5 albeit that would seem a little over kill for a small setup like this.


    h.s05/01/2022 15:00

    great thank you... which switch are you using? i have read that not all …great thank you... which switch are you using? i have read that not all are compatible with tp-link?


    it is d-link implementation of the protocol mentioned above - most standard generic run of the mill switches (i.e. cheap) will work


    EndlessWaves05/01/2022 15:14

    Yes, splitters dedicate half the wires in each cable to one or the other …Yes, splitters dedicate half the wires in each cable to one or the other so it works with anything, but does limit you to Fast Ethernet speeds (100Mbps) as gigabit ethernet needs all the wires.


    and hence a dirty/bad practice

    EndlessWaves05/01/2022 15:14

    You're generally better off using a Switch in that scenario.


    absolutely and when you can pick up gigabit switches at under £8 sort of a no brainier

    TP-Link LS1005G 5-Port Desktop/Wallmount Gigabit Ethernet Switch/Hub, Network Splitter, Plug and play, Plastic Case : Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories
    Edited by: "Bertz99" 5th Jan
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    Looking over their diagram....
    If the Deco system is ROUTER, with the ISP box set to modem mode, then EVERYTHING comes after the MAIN Deco, with the remainder daisy chained or star connected via a switch (will also need a switch to provide ethernet ports apart from the 1 left at the end of the chain.
    With the Deco system in AP mode, using the ISP box in router mode, they can each be backhauled to a port on the ISP router, however the AP mode is dumb, you lose many features including probably the fast handover, as you would just rely on normal failover between APs oferring the same service
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    What's the benefit of AP mode, tried Google-ing but makes no sense...


    Also, can you have a switch after a switch if that makes sense.

    For example... Unit 2 wired from the switch on first floor.. Then a switch plugged into Unit 2 to hardwire everything on 2nd floor?

    TIA
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    h.s09/01/2022 16:14

    What's the benefit of AP mode, tried Google-ing but makes no sense...Also, …What's the benefit of AP mode, tried Google-ing but makes no sense...Also, can you have a switch after a switch if that makes sense.For example... Unit 2 wired from the switch on first floor.. Then a switch plugged into Unit 2 to hardwire everything on 2nd floor?TIA


    You can have as many switches as you want, all it does it split your wired connection out again
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    Ihsaan_Boksh11/01/2022 08:31

    You can have as many switches as you want, all it does it split your wired …You can have as many switches as you want, all it does it split your wired connection out again


    fabulouose... thank you all
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    sorry to hijack but also querying how to set this up and best ideas.

    i am in a 3 story townhouse with horrible concrete floors blocking signals.

    there is ethernet on the middle floor to the adsl sky q router / sky box, an unmanaged switch to devices around the middle and top floor, but no ethernet on the bottom floor.

    dead spots in the top floor and the bottom floor, would i plug the first deco into the sky router, stick it in modem mode, rename the deco to broadcast the same ssid and pw and then wirelessly connect one downstairs but ethernet one upstairs?
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    cache12/01/2022 12:35

    sorry to hijack but also querying how to set this up and best ideas.i am …sorry to hijack but also querying how to set this up and best ideas.i am in a 3 story townhouse with horrible concrete floors blocking signals.there is ethernet on the middle floor to the adsl sky q router / sky box, an unmanaged switch to devices around the middle and top floor, but no ethernet on the bottom floor.dead spots in the top floor and the bottom floor, would i plug the first deco into the sky router, stick it in modem mode, rename the deco to broadcast the same ssid and pw and then wirelessly connect one downstairs but ethernet one upstairs?




    yes wireless downstairs and if you could connect with ethernet you would get better speeds
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