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Posted 15th Jan
Hi

Just got message that Microsoft doesn't support my Window 7 anymore. I'm not sure what does it mean but my PC is still working, everything is the same as it always was but I would appreciate if any of you knows this matter better and would offer an advice if I should do something, or protect my PC somehow...I have internet explorer which I don't use, but always use google. Thanks
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Windows 7 went out of support yesterday. You'll no longer get any security patches so you should look at upgrading ASAP

There's a discussion on it here - hotukdeals.com/dis…064
Edited by: "BeerDrinker" 15th Jan
Microsoft are pulling support and aren't releasing updates for Windows 7. Your machine will still work but when a major fault or vulnerability is found, Microsoft aren't going to be releasing a fix which means your machine will be at risk.

It doesn't matter whether you use Firefox, IE, Chrome or any other browser like Dolphin, your underlying Operating System is what's vulnerable
Yes it will still work, just as Windows XP still works. As mentioned above, there won't be anymore support for it for the general public anyway. You should look at moving to Windows 10 to keep in check with the latest security patches.
guru40415/01/2020 20:38

Yes it will still work, just as Windows XP still works. As mentioned …Yes it will still work, just as Windows XP still works. As mentioned above, there won't be anymore support for it for the general public anyway. You should look at moving to Windows 10 to keep in check with the latest security patches.


Thanks. Just in the process of downloading it.
guru40415/01/2020 20:38

Yes it will still work, just as Windows XP still works. As mentioned …Yes it will still work, just as Windows XP still works. As mentioned above, there won't be anymore support for it for the general public anyway. You should look at moving to Windows 10 to keep in check with the latest security patches.


Other OSes are also available.
darlodge15/01/2020 20:23

Microsoft are pulling support and aren't releasing updates for Windows 7.


That makes it sound like a recent decision. The end of extended support date for Windows 7 was always going to be 14th January 2020, this information was published on Microsoft's website and reported on tech sites at least as early as 2010.
Same issue here but my system won't work in windows 10 or 8. Any thing I can do.
EndlessWaves15/01/2020 22:13

That makes it sound like a recent decision. The end of extended support …That makes it sound like a recent decision. The end of extended support date for Windows 7 was always going to be 14th January 2020, this information was published on Microsoft's website and reported on tech sites at least as early as 2010.


I suppose you could read it that way, the fact remains though, its gone for good.. RIP Win7😁
tardytortoise15/01/2020 21:58

Now is the time to try a Linux distro.This is my fave just now,


That's not one I've come across before. I've been using Mint at home for the past 6 or so years - 3 years as a dual boot with Windows 7, and on it's own for the last 3. However, I moved to Manjaro at Christmas, (also bought a Ryzen laptop with Windows for some occassional gaming for games I can't get to work under Proton).

My machines at work are RHEL 8 and CentOS 7 mainly due to the type of work I tend to be doing.
Edited by: "alg" 15th Jan
just as well i managed to flog my knackered windows 7 laptop last year.
I upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10 via a USB stick with Win 10 Pro loaded onto it then just bought an activation code off eBay for £3-£4. Works fine.
InsaneNun16/01/2020 10:39

I upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10 via a USB stick with Win 10 Pro …I upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10 via a USB stick with Win 10 Pro loaded onto it then just bought an activation code off eBay for £3-£4. Works fine.


Windows 7 keys activate Windows 10 installs directly, no need to pay those dubious ebay sellers anything.

MynameisM15/01/2020 22:15

Same issue here but my system won't work in windows 10 or 8. Any thing I …Same issue here but my system won't work in windows 10 or 8. Any thing I can do.


You can pick up a six or seven year old second hand desktop for £50 or less.

You could try a Linux distro but none of them are particularly polished, and those supporting hardware old enough to not run Windows 10 aren't likely to be among the best.
EndlessWaves16/01/2020 11:41

You could try a Linux distro but none of them are particularly polished, …You could try a Linux distro but none of them are particularly polished, and those supporting hardware old enough to not run Windows 10 aren't likely to be among the best.


That's a very broad statement, given the number of distros available. I would also argue that distros such as Manjaro, Mint and Ubuntu, amongst others, are pretty much polished.
Edited by: "alg" 16th Jan
EndlessWaves16/01/2020 11:41

Windows 7 keys activate Windows 10 installs directly, no need to pay those …Windows 7 keys activate Windows 10 installs directly, no need to pay those dubious ebay sellers anything. You can pick up a six or seven year old second hand desktop for £50 or less. You could try a Linux distro but none of them are particularly polished, and those supporting hardware old enough to not run Windows 10 aren't likely to be among the best.


I installed Win 7 though a cracked/keygen version many many years ago so don’t know if it would have activated Win 10 Pro from my cracked Win 7 installation when upgrading. That’s the only reason i bought activation code on eBay. Also bought a new PC with Windows not installed (to save £100 on custom
built PC) so that was another reason for installing Win 10 Pro (on new PC) and paying for activation code via eBay. Looking to sell my old outdated PC and monitor now.
alg15/01/2020 22:53

That's not one I've come across before. I've been using Mint at home for …That's not one I've come across before. I've been using Mint at home for the past 6 or so years - 3 years as a dual boot with Windows 7, and on it's own for the last 3. However, I moved to Manjaro at Christmas, (also bought a Ryzen laptop with Windows for some occassional gaming for games I can't get to work under Proton).My machines at work are RHEL 8 and CentOS 7 mainly due to the type of work I tend to be doing.


been looking at linux and my needs are relatively simple, a word processor and chrome or the equivalent for browsing. also need to run a Canon Printer.Been looking at cromium, is it much different from chrome? Its just i use cherome on everything( tablet mobile and chromebook)
any advice appreciated :-)
Edited by: "ogeran" 16th Jan
ogeran16/01/2020 17:35

been looking at linux and my needs are relatively simple, a word processor …been looking at linux and my needs are relatively simple, a word processor and chrome or the equivalent for browsing. also need to run a Canon Printer.Been looking at cromium, is it much different from chrome? Its just i use cherome on everything( tablet mobile and chromebook)any advice appreciated :-)


Chromium is, iirc, the open source version of Chrome - but if you use something like Mint or Ubuntu, you can download the Google provided version.

In terms of your printer, you should be OK, but I've never used a Canon at home with linux - but my Epson inkjet and scanner, and my Samsung laser work fine, albeit with packages downloaded and installed from their support sites.
alg16/01/2020 18:14

Chromium is, iirc, the open source version of Chrome - but if you use …Chromium is, iirc, the open source version of Chrome - but if you use something like Mint or Ubuntu, you can download the Google provided version.In terms of your printer, you should be OK, but I've never used a Canon at home with linux - but my Epson inkjet and scanner, and my Samsung laser work fine, albeit with packages downloaded and installed from their support sites.


Thanks for the reply, I will definitely look at Ubuntu probably and do a dual boot or whatever it's called . Seems a waste to throw away a perfectly good desktop PC . If I can get a good working version of chrome then,with a dual boot I'll be perfectly happy.
tardytortoise15/01/2020 21:58

Now is the time to try a Linux distro.This is my fave just now,


Just had a look at your recommended distro, never heard of it before either ! It looks great tho. I only use a printer, chrome and a word document ( libre) . Unfortunately I really need a good chrome equivalent. Is there anything you know of that can replicate chrome?
While the support has ended and I would definitely start looking to install windows 10 or another supported operating system it doesn't instantly make the system vulnerable.
Windows updates are normally on a weekly basis so your system is always a week or two out of date.
Windows 7 is a very mature platform so vulnerabilities have been found and fixed over and over.
If anything major is found despite Microsoft officially no longer supporting it they will issue fixes, they did for WannaCry and Bluekeep on windows XP and server 2003.
ogeran16/01/2020 21:10

Just had a look at your recommended distro, never heard of it before …Just had a look at your recommended distro, never heard of it before either ! It looks great tho. I only use a printer, chrome and a word document ( libre) . Unfortunately I really need a good chrome equivalent. Is there anything you know of that can replicate chrome?



The Google Chrome browser works fine on Ubuntu, Mint, Feren, Zorin. etc.
As does Libre Office.
Most linux distros come with Firefox browser installed - it fits the ethos better of open source and better security.
Once you switch from Windows you will never look back - the linux and its distro communities are a great bunch of people very willing to help you.
You will find your Canon printer works just fine (wireless or hard wired) - small tip if you have your printer on when you install your distro the installation will often see your printer and do what it needs to do without any intervention from you. And BTW Canon is a great choice - I have one of their multifunction - scans and prints, Not many people know but the internal workings of many inkjets and lasers are in fact proprietary to Canon who licence to the other manufacturers.

Also take note Google will wind down Chrome apps starting in June
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Edited by: "tardytortoise" 17th Jan
ogeran16/01/2020 21:10

Just had a look at your recommended distro, never heard of it before …Just had a look at your recommended distro, never heard of it before either ! It looks great tho. I only use a printer, chrome and a word document ( libre) . Unfortunately I really need a good chrome equivalent. Is there anything you know of that can replicate chrome?


I already responded about that - Google provide Chrome installers on Debian/Ubuntu based machines (.deb files) and RedHat based machines (.rpm). Arch based machines have an AUR build available as well.

On the other hand, if by Chrome you mean the ChromeOS operating system, there's Neverware's OS - neverware.com/ - which works on most hardware. Not tried it for a while though.
alg17/01/2020 10:21

I already responded about that - Google provide Chrome installers on …I already responded about that - Google provide Chrome installers on Debian/Ubuntu based machines (.deb files) and RedHat based machines (.rpm). Arch based machines have an AUR build available as well.On the other hand, if by Chrome you mean the ChromeOS operating system, there's Neverware's OS - https://www.neverware.com/#intro - which works on most hardware. Not tried it for a while though.


Sorry alg i did indeed already ask you, my bad! Thanks for the reply tho. I will deffo look at dual win7( offline) linux so I dont have to throw away a perfectly good desktop. Thanks again
tardytortoise17/01/2020 06:25

The Google Chrome browser works fine on Ubuntu, Mint, Feren, Zorin. etc.As …The Google Chrome browser works fine on Ubuntu, Mint, Feren, Zorin. etc.As does Libre Office.Most linux distros come with Firefox browser installed - it fits the ethos better of open source and better security.Once you switch from Windows you will never look back - the linux and its distro communities are a great bunch of people very willing to help you.You will find your Canon printer works just fine (wireless or hard wired) - small tip if you have your printer on when you install your distro the installation will often see your printer and do what it needs to do without any intervention from you. And BTW Canon is a great choice - I have one of their multifunction - scans and prints, Not many people know but the internal workings of many inkjets and lasers are in fact proprietary to Canon who licence to the other manufacturers.Also take note Google will wind down Chrome apps starting in Junehttps://www.pcworld.com/article/3514529/google-will-wind-down-chrome-apps-starting-in-june.html


love my multifunction Canon too! I have those home kits for refilling the ink tanks so cheap too. I was genuinely shocked at google dropping their apps( specially as i have a chromebook) but you are indeed correct. Luckily as far as I know the only extension I use is an ad blocker so hopefully won't make a huge difference to me. I am now actually really excited about going down the ubuntu route, i should have done it years ago but this is the kick i needed. thanks again for your reply
Edited by: "ogeran" 17th Jan
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