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    has anyone installed it yet, what do you think of it?

    i found it a bit annoying, but something to get used to.
    it looks like they have gone backwards not forwards with it, it kinda seems dull, nothing really new about it, vista is a lot better.

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    "vista is a lot better"

    Then god help us all. :giggle:

    i herd it was a transition kinda release meaning its for people who still prefer xp to vista.

    Kinda like a mid way point. not 100% sure though...

    it's suppose to be fully compatible with device drivers, applications, and hardware of Windows Vista

    Its better then vista easily !!!, less boot times etc, but i do prefer XP

    Original Poster

    less boot times, i both vista and win7 on my system, if i boot into vista it will take about 2-3mins, now win7 is completely fresh nothing installed but os it takes nearly 15mins.

    noodles1631;4655133

    i herd it was a transition kinda release meaning its for people who still … i herd it was a transition kinda release meaning its for people who still prefer xp to vista.Kinda like a mid way point. not 100% sure though...it's suppose to be fully compatible with device drivers, applications, and hardware of Windows Vista



    It's not entirely compatible. I guess the OS itself might be, but a lot of hardware where the drivers have installers and need to install services and utility software to control the hardware doesn't work with W7, because the installers and the software refuse to work with an OS other than the one they were designed to work with. There are some workarounds that sometimes works, but none of them well enough to save my M-Audio NRV10 from becoming unusable under W7. So, back to XP for me.

    Nice OS, though.

    wickedteen;4655187

    less boot times, i both vista and win7 on my system, if i boot into vista … less boot times, i both vista and win7 on my system, if i boot into vista it will take about 2-3mins, now win7 is completely fresh nothing installed but os it takes nearly 15mins.



    Then you have a problem with your set up.

    Have to say I do think it's an improvement on Vista, not that it was possible to make it much worse :thumbsup:.

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    megalomaniac;4655118

    "vista is a lot better"Then god help us all. :giggle:



    Don't worry about it, everyone in the world says Windows 7 is massively better than Vista. Another one of Wickedteen's slightly off-the-hook threads

    As for 15 minutes Wickedteen... are you really going to claim that is normal? You MUST surely realise you have a problem with your setup? If you haven't - then you shouldn't be running W7 at all. Its a beta, so shouldn't be used by numpties.

    wickedteen;4655187

    less boot times, i both vista and win7 on my system, if i boot into vista … less boot times, i both vista and win7 on my system, if i boot into vista it will take about 2-3mins, now win7 is completely fresh nothing installed but os it takes nearly 15mins.



    15 minutes LOL even windows 98 dont take that long.

    It takes me under a minute. I have a core 2 duo 2.4ghz, 2gb ram, few applications at start up.

    I have a core 2 quad 2.4ghz, 8gb ram, startup in under a minute with a few applications (catalyst, avast! and logitech setpoint software)

    Original Poster

    i shall reinstall it later see if its any better, might be a bad version i got.
    and i didnt say it was normal to take 15mins to bootup,.

    wickedteen;4655322

    i shall reinstall it later see if its any better, might be a bad version … i shall reinstall it later see if its any better, might be a bad version i got.and i didnt say it was normal to take 15mins to bootup,.


    [FONT="Verdana"]
    Agree with earlier comments that it may be down to the hardware in your computer but there's also the device driver support to consider as well - there have been reported instances where the native Windows 7 Beta device drivers have not come with the full support in place for certain hardware but it is limited in number from what I've seen.

    Cheers, Scotty Boy! :thumbsup:[/FONT]

    Original Poster

    my system is not a slow one, vista boots in just under a minute

    wickedteen;4655187

    less boot times, i both vista and win7 on my system, if i boot into vista … less boot times, i both vista and win7 on my system, if i boot into vista it will take about 2-3mins, now win7 is completely fresh nothing installed but os it takes nearly 15mins.



    15 mins!!!!

    My acer aspire one boots it in 30 seconds!

    Original Poster

    exactly, something wrong with it, probably a bad download

    windows 7 on my 1.7 ghz amdx2 2 gb ram laptop boots in about 1 minute. In my honest opinion, windows 7 is vastly superior to vista for everyday use, EVERYTHING just seems a heck of a lot faster, while still retaining the prettiness.

    Original Poster

    the version i put on was a upgrade of 7057

    I can't say I've found much difference in performance, I ran a Studio Hybrid with Windows 7 briefly but performance was similar to a cleaned up Vista install. The lack of hardware support was too problematic (and it doesn't like having Vista drivers forced on it) so I went back to Vista and the machine is running much the same. I'll take another look once the OS is a bit more mature but can't help but feel Windows 7 is a bit overhyped right now.

    John

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    Johnmcl7;4656379

    and it doesn't like having Vista drivers forced on it



    With all due respect, you are talking ********.

    I used 64bit XP Pro, and that proved very stable. I now use 64 Bit Vista ultimate and it is equally stable.
    No problems here in 8 months of solid usage (of Vista).

    vibeone;4657345

    With all due respect, you are talking ********.



    Rather laughably said with no respect at all and I'm referring to an actual instance. I attempted to install an HP Vista driver (older printer with only a basic Vista driver) which Windows 7 objected to and refused to install, as the printer wasn't working anyway I forced the driver onto the OS and it appeared to work fine in that the printer showed as installed and available but any jobs sent to it never appeared at all with no errors. It left something of a mess in the printer subsystem as any further printers showed the same issue even though the spooler service was running with no errors either. It's no criticism of Windows 7 as it was correct to refuse to install the driver even if the final release should be fully compatible with all Vista software.

    John

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    Johnmcl7;4657617

    Rather laughably said with no respect at all and I'm referring to an … Rather laughably said with no respect at all and I'm referring to an actual instance. I attempted to install an HP Vista driver (older printer with only a basic Vista driver) which Windows 7 objected to and refused to install, as the printer wasn't working anyway I forced the driver onto the OS and it appeared to work fine in that the printer showed as installed and available but any jobs sent to it never appeared at all with no errors. It left something of a mess in the printer subsystem as any further printers showed the same issue even though the spooler service was running with no errors either. It's no criticism of Windows 7 as it was correct to refuse to install the driver even if the final release should be fully compatible with all Vista software.John


    problem with your system then. No problem with vista drivers on 7. Beta bug perhaps, nothing more.

    vibeone;4658207

    problem with your system then. No problem with vista drivers on 7. Beta … problem with your system then. No problem with vista drivers on 7. Beta bug perhaps, nothing more.



    Not all vista drivers are 100% compatible with Win7.

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    deathtrap3000;4658249

    Not all vista drivers are 100% compatible with Win7.


    yes they are. installers might not be. but youd be hard pushed to find an actual driver that isnt

    vibeone;4658207

    problem with your system then. No problem with vista drivers on 7. Beta … problem with your system then. No problem with vista drivers on 7. Beta bug perhaps, nothing more.



    No, it was a problem with the driver/operating system and as I said already I expect it to be a beta bug, there are problems with some Vista drivers on Windows 7 whether you choose to acknowledge them or not. In the original post I said the operating system didn't like having drivers forced on it which means drivers it had identified as not being compatible, I was not making a general statement about software compatibility for Windows 7. To swear at me just because it's not an issue you've encountered is entirely uncalled for.

    John

    wickedteen;4655187

    if i boot into vista it will take about 2-3mins



    wickedteen;4655893

    my system is not a slow one, vista boots in just under a minute



    Just how long does it take? :whistling:

    im considering giving 7 a try, though ive never had a problem with vista on my vostro laptop (2.1ghz c2d, 3gb ram) i would say it boots vista in 1 min approx.

    dcx_badass;4660432

    Everyone I've spoken to has said its loads better than Vista, I know a … Everyone I've spoken to has said its loads better than Vista, I know a few people who use the first beta just fine as their main OS.



    me included :thumbsup:

    great os. can't wait for the final release.

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    Johnmcl7;4660248

    No, it was a problem with the driver/operating system and as I said … No, it was a problem with the driver/operating system and as I said already I expect it to be a beta bug, there are problems with some Vista drivers on Windows 7 whether you choose to acknowledge them or not. In the original post I said the operating system didn't like having drivers forced on it which means drivers it had identified as not being compatible, I was not making a general statement about software compatibility for Windows 7. To swear at me just because it's not an issue you've encountered is entirely uncalled for.John


    whether you acknowledge it or not, the issue was almost certainly of your own making. You can harp on about windows 7 not liking drivers forced upon it, but its simply not true. Its a sweeping generalisation based on a probably bug you may have found relating to the driver install routine - be that windows subsystem fault, or the third party installer.

    You posted an arrogant I knows best post, which didn't make sense, and I showed you up. I'm the first to admit W7 does still have bugs in it - its a beta. But what you said originally, and what you continue to say it just not correct.

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    wickedteen;4656337

    the version i put on was a upgrade of 7057


    Personally, and I'm sure people would disagree... I would NEVER upgrade an OS. Backup and fresh install everytime.

    I blame Microsoft - upgrades never seem quite right.

    Play nice guys, it's only a Beta - a promising one granted but still only a Beta. So come on hand's up who's an MCSE, who's an enthusiast and whose surname is Ballmer? :giggle:
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