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    Hello, I am looking to install Windows 7 Professional, having previously used Windows Vista. I heard that XP Mode was removed from WIndows 7 Home Premium, so I figured that I would need to choose WIndows 7 Professional, in order to use many of the programs that I have installed currently. Although most retail versions provide both, I a specifically looking for the 64-bit version.

    Can anyone please recommend the cheapest price currently available?

    Thank you.

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    if your a student doing IT (like me or quite a few people on this site) you get a copy of pro free, and then its £30 a copy after than. HTH

    danny09;6655512

    if your a student doing IT (like me or quite a few people on this site) … if your a student doing IT (like me or quite a few people on this site) you get a copy of pro free, and then its £30 a copy after than. HTH



    Sweet,

    im curious about what you have that needs xp mode, I work in IT and it may help me with roll outs.

    So far ive not found anything that wont run on win 7 64 bit.

    Cheers

    MOST programs work just fine with Windows 7
    if any do not at first work, simply right click the file, choose properties, then compatability, and choose compatability as either Vista, or XP.

    I've been using Windows 7 X64 since last December and only once have I found a program that would not run and I had to use XP mode.
    That was a specialist communication program that did wierd things with the com ports, and very few people would ever need or want to run that one.

    My advice, dont buy Professional JUST to get XP mode,
    Just borrow someone' Windows 7 Install Disk, any version.
    It will let you run it for 30 days without activating it, try it and then if after trying it you find you NEED XP mode, you havent lost any money and can then go and buy Professional.

    Original Poster

    Hello, thank you all for replying so quickly!

    I'm not an IT student, but I do have an ac.uk email address, I wish I got a version of this free! I was a bit disappointed tha Microsoft only offer a deal on the upgrade version of the software, not on the full retail version. This would prevent me from going from 32-bit Vista to 64-bit Windows 7.

    Regarding compatability and XP Mode, I am not sure what programs would not run on Vista and therefore Windows 7, but that's what I am afraid of, I am sure there must be one!

    Sheepdisease;6655563

    Hello, thank you all for replying so quickly!I'm not an IT student, but I … Hello, thank you all for replying so quickly!I'm not an IT student, but I do have an ac.uk email address, I wish I got a version of this free! I was a bit disappointed tha Microsoft only offer a deal on the upgrade version of the software, not on the full retail version. This would prevent me from going from 32-bit Vista to 64-bit Windows 7.Regarding compatability and XP Mode, I am not sure what programs would not run on Vista and therefore Windows 7, but that's what I am afraid of, I am sure there must be one!



    ahh thats a shame, im happy im an IT student get full version of pro for free

    Sheepdisease;6655563

    Hello, thank you all for replying so quickly!I'm not an IT student, but I … Hello, thank you all for replying so quickly!I'm not an IT student, but I do have an ac.uk email address, I wish I got a version of this free!!


    Why not just bbuy it then? £30 isnt going to kill anyone!

    If you have the email address your able to get a copy
    Why do you insist you want X64 when you havent tried X64 before?
    unless you had XP X64 which was a disaster.
    microsoft.com/uk/…er/
    and you can buy either Home Premium OR Professional there

    Or go for the Ultimate version?
    Here software4students.co.uk/Mic…spx

    for YOUR information ANY upgrade version can also install as a clean install and not an upgrade if required.
    simply install without putting the licence key in during install (untick the box) when its all installed, restart your computer
    put the disk back in the drive WHILE Windows is running, and simply run the setup program, it will then upgrade itself, to itself and allow you to use your licence key

    Once you have the licence key, that key works on BOTH x86 (32bit) and X64 versions of Windows 7
    why not if you insist you need professional buy it for £30 there, then just borrow someone's X64 disk?

    Original Poster

    Okay, if you insist, I will explain in detail.

    I want the full retail version of Windows 7 Professional on a disk, because I have had many experiences of requiring the disc in order to maintain or repair the system installation. Without that, it is impossible to have peace of mind. If I download the upgrade, I will not have a hard copy of the operating system to insert if there are any problems, and inevitably every computer has problems at some stage. I want the 64-bit version because it makes better use of system resources, especially when I have 4GB RAM installed.

    Are you telling me that it is possible to install an upgrade without having to first install Vista, as this would actually defeat the object of them calling it an upgrade! The hassle of having to install one operating system, simply to install another if there is a problem, does sound ludicrous.

    YES

    ALL upgrade discs both Vista and Windows 7 can do BOTH upgrade and full install
    They are BOOTABLE discs

    IF you want a full version of a Windows 7 disc out of the box where it says full version then go for the Windows 7 X64 upgrade that I put the link up already
    X64 disc, Windows 7 and its only £60

    or get the 32 bit version of Professional for £30

    your choice

    Original Poster

    Hello Karen,

    thank you for your help. Why do they call it an upgrade if it is the full edition and doesn't require a previous installation of Vista or XP, which is what they do state they require? If this were true, surely everyone would choose this version and no one would go for the full retail version?

    Your choice, live or die! Can't wait for SAW VI to come out...

    Because the Licence key ONLY works in an upgrade situation.

    It's simpler and cheaper to make one set of instal discs identical apart from the printing, it works out cheaper for them.

    Original Poster

    Right, so if I wanted to do a clean install of Windows 7, it would be impossible?

    Also, when I went through the motions of checking out the student offer on the Micrsosoft website, it seemed to me as though they only offered a download version?

    Sheepdisease;6657822

    Right, so if I wanted to do a clean install of Windows 7, it would be … Right, so if I wanted to do a clean install of Windows 7, it would be impossible?



    No its entirely possible

    you just have to do the clean install with the windows 7 cd, then when its installed do an upgrade using the exact same cd
    just DONT put your cd key in when you do the original cd, its not needed and wont work, untick the box. then put it in when you do the upgrade
    Sheepdisease;6657822

    Also, when I went through the motions of checking out the student offer … Also, when I went through the motions of checking out the student offer on the Micrsosoft website, it seemed to me as though they only offered a download version?



    try my 2nd link, its dearer but you get a read disc delivered to your door
    and its the ultimate version of windows 7

    click here for details

    Original Poster

    Okay, I don't mind going for Windows 7 Ultimate.

    I really appreciate your patience and understanding.

    Could you please explain very slowly exactly what you just said? See if I have got this right...

    Format hard drive, insert Windows 7 disc and follow installation procedure as normal, but at this stage do not enter the cd key?, then when Windows 7 has successfully installed, (unclear about this bit), untick some box?

    1 save any information you want to keep onto external hard drive or cd/dvd's
    2 put windows 7 disk in the drive
    3 restart the computer
    4 when you get the message "Press any key to boot from CD" press any button on the keyboard
    5 IF you don't get that option, you'll have to alter your bios to get your computer to boot from the cd drive, if you dont know how look here
    It will more than likely be the escape, F2, F10, F12 or delete key that gets into the bios but read the article it explains it simply
    6 Once your computer has booted up, choose your region setting and press next
    7 press Install now
    8 Acceept the licence terms
    9 Click CUSTOM (advanced)
    10 Press Drive Options (advanced)
    11 Highlght your hard drive and click X Delete then next
    12 Highlight your drive again and press Next
    13 If it says it may create additional partitions for system files click OK
    14 it will start installing files
    15 it will automatically restart when needed, when it restarts do NOT press anything, let it do it all itself
    16 It will eventually get to a screen where it asks you to type a username pick one and type it
    17 put in a password if you want but you dont have to
    18 It will say Type your product key for activation - UNTICK the box at the bottom that says Automatically activate Windows when I'm online and DO NOT PUT YOUR KEY IN THE BOX
    19 click use Recommended settings
    20 Choose your time zone
    21 unless your on a work network, choose the first option. Click Home Network
    22 IF it asks do you want to create a homegroup say no for now (Skip)
    23 it eventually starts properly (this only takes around 30 mins in reality from start to finish.

    24 Take the cd out of the drive, then put it back in
    25 It should autostart
    26 click on the popup that says "Run Setup"
    27 now refer to number 6 above and follow all the steps but this time when you get to Number 9
    CLICK UPGRADE
    28 follow the rest of the steps from 14 to the where it asks for your Licence Key
    29 Type in your Licence Key (product key)
    30 again follow the steps above till its finished.
    31 once its finished and working DOWNLOAD the latest MSE Antivirus It's free Click here and choose download Thats if you don't have your own preference to antivirus.

    Once its all up and running, click the start button (The circle on the bottom left) then click All Programmes then scroll up and click Windows Update
    Click on check for updates on the top left, and installl EVERY Critical update and whatever optional ones you want
    Once it had updated, reboot and do the upgrade proceedure again untill when you check there are NO critical, and no optional ones you want.

    Now your done, enjoy your Windows 7

    Hope that was explained slowly enough?

    Original Poster

    Hello Karen, thank you once again for your response.

    Could you please clarify, when you get to step 24, at this point are we talking about taking the disc out and reinserting it whilst Windows 7 is fully loaded and the desktop is displaying or the boot up stage?

    Karen, rep added just for doing all that effort!:santa:

    Sheepdisease;6662221

    Hello Karen, thank you once again for your response.Could you please … Hello Karen, thank you once again for your response.Could you please clarify, when you get to step 24, at this point are we talking about taking the disc out and reinserting it whilst Windows 7 is fully loaded and the desktop is displaying or the boot up stage?



    FULLY loaded

    Original Poster

    sunil1234;6666080

    Karen, rep added just for doing all that effort!:santa:



    Indeed, same!

    sunil1234;6666090

    FULLY loaded



    Thanks, rep added!

    *fully loaded*

    all your doing is makind the computer read the disc again, you could do it manually but I figured this was the easiest way for you.

    Upgrade options/paths below

    http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh175/karenhornby/windows_7_upgrade_chart-1.jpg

    Difference between Windows 7 Versions

    http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh175/karenhornby/differencebetweenwindows7homepre-1.png

    now KAren, thats confusing:p

    Original Poster

    Karen, stick with the text description, it's much better! That looks so complicated...

    Could you please tell me, my girlfriend has just purchased Windows 7 Professional Edition as a downloadable upgrade on the student deal and purchased a back-up disc, it says that she will be able to install Windows 7without erasing any of her files. The procedure you went through with me previously, will she be affected if she wants to format her hard drive in the future to reinstall Windows 7 from scratch if she enters the activation code as an upgrade from the desktop of Windows Vista?

    I'm not entirely sure how the download installation works, I suppose it just acts as a massive program installation and on reboot, removes old files from Vista, which is why I ask.

    Thank you so much for your patience!
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