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    Wireless routers, virgin and sky. (please help this ones complicated)

    Hi all,
    My friend has joined sky however he had two modem/routers posted out to him.
    He has since given one to me as my modem is just a modem... no wireless, since i am with vm my signal comes through the coaxial as its from a splitter from the wall to my tv.
    Is there any way that i can run the two modems together with the sky modem acting as my wireless router (its skys latest netgear one and my virgin one is their latest modem too)
    In the back of the sky modem its just the adsl plug in thing which i dont have on my vm one hence needing to run them together

    Rep for anyone whos info works

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    no because one is cable and the other satellite

    you can't use an adsl router with a cable connection.

    If you are on Virgin CABLE then you cannot use it.

    Sky (ADSL) and Cable (Virgin) use different technologies.

    Virgin do offer some NON CABLE broadband and you may be able to use it on that.

    Note that Virgin will give you a free router if you are on one of their better broadband packages (not the minimum one). See the Virgin web site for details.

    Original Poster

    damn, thats what i thought
    thanks guys

    GMN360;5984801

    no because one is cable and the other satellite



    I dont think Sky broadband comes via satellite

    Original Poster

    virgin want to charge me £40 for a wireless router, i told them to sod off lol :thumbsup:

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    guilbert53;5984835

    I dont think Sky broadband comes via satellite



    you got the jist of what i was trying to say :whistling:

    Original Poster

    i dont want to buy one, its only for step daughters laptop when she stays so she can be wireless ;-)

    Heyo, I have seen something like this done before, but it depends on the make and firmware of the router.

    I would think that sky broadband has locked down the router, but what you want is to take an ethernet feed from your virgin modem, then into one of the sockets of the sky one. Then, switch it to access point mode. Now I know this works on my old linksys and some of the belkin ones, but I think sky may have locked this mode out.

    You can check by going into the router settings on the sky modem / router

    192.168.0.1 in the browser address bar

    username is admin
    password is sky.

    good luck.

    *roosterpots*;5984841

    virgin want to charge me £40 for a wireless router, i told them to sod … virgin want to charge me £40 for a wireless router, i told them to sod off lol :thumbsup:



    Another thing, are you near the end of your contract, if you tell them that sky has offered u all the tv etc that they can offer ,plus broadband with free modem router, they may help you and send you a free one.

    Original Poster

    aircanman;5984968

    Heyo, I have seen something like this done before, but it depends on the … Heyo, I have seen something like this done before, but it depends on the make and firmware of the router. I would think that sky broadband has locked down the router, but what you want is to take an ethernet feed from your virgin modem, then into one of the sockets of the sky one. Then, switch it to access point mode. Now I know this works on my old linksys and some of the belkin ones, but I think sky may have locked this mode out. You can check by going into the router settings on the sky modem / router 192.168.0.1 in the browser address barusername is adminpassword is sky. good luck.



    Ive tried plugging the ethernet from pc to the sky modem, then another ethernet from sky to virgin modem but with no luck, i cant check the sky modem as im with virgin so dont have asdl thingy

    how do i switch the access mode thing?

    Original Poster

    the router and modem are in the same unit made by netgear

    *roosterpots*;5985060

    the router and modem are in the same unit made by netgear



    yes I understand this,

    your virgin modem should have the coax cable going into it. You need to first connect an ethernet cable to your computer, then to your sky modem router, this will allow you to get into the settings.

    when its all up and running (which im not sure it will work due to the sky lockdown) - the linkup should be, coax to virgin modem, ethernet out of virgin modem to sky modem router, then thats it.
    you are basically sendin the internet signal to the wireless thing. Not all routers will do this tho!

    Original Poster

    it wont let me do it....... item number 110422832560

    Original Poster

    thats exactly what i tried but ill try the access thingy first

    Original Poster

    i think its locked though as i thought it would of worked myself :cry:
    do you know if you can get it unlocked?

    *roosterpots*;5985148

    i think its locked though as i thought it would of worked myself :cry:do … i think its locked though as i thought it would of worked myself :cry:do you know if you can get it unlocked?



    I have seen websites with people replacing the firmware with normal netgear firmware, which unlocks it. but how simple it is I dont know im afraid. You can get an NTL router for £25 anyway, they not expensive.

    Original Poster

    Thanks fir all of your help ive left rep for you

    *roosterpots*;5985042

    Ive tried plugging the ethernet from pc to the sky modem, then another … Ive tried plugging the ethernet from pc to the sky modem, then another ethernet from sky to virgin modem but with no luck



    There is a lot more to this than meets the eye. Without knowing what both modems uses as their default gateway IP I cannot tell you if it will work straight out of the box or not. Although I can tell you that you need to power off the Virgin modem for around 30 minutes until it forgets the MAC address of your PC.

    So, plug in the Sky Router, turn off the Virgin modem for 30 minutes. Power-up, ensure its online, then connect your PC to the Sky Router - in this order.

    Even so it may still not work if there is IP address conflicts (both modem routers using same IP).

    ----

    So what I am saying is, try again but do it after having the unit powered down for like half an hour. If it still doesn't work try looking into changing the IP address on the Sky router. The only time you need to flash Sky's Netgear router is if you want to use it on your own ISP as the modem, it should still work as a router even with the locked firmware. The firmware is only locking the modem part of the router to using Sky and no other ISP, afaik it is not locking the router functionality.

    I hope this makes sense, networking is kind of confusing lol.
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