Woman convicted of filesharing using torrents

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Found 12th May 2011
this is possibly the first time I've actually seen someone get convicted of this
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is another one of those BS reports where actually it is the media circulating fake convictions

The defendant illegally distributed music on a massive scale, causing … The defendant illegally distributed music on a massive scale, causing significant harm to legitimate music companies



Utter rubbish...

A 58 year old Scottish woman has been convicted for copyright crimes … A 58 year old Scottish woman has been convicted for copyright crimes after she made 30,000 music files, over two thirds of them karaoke files



Yes, I'm sure the music industry suffered a huge hit because she uploaded 20k Karaoke songs... When was the last time you saw "NOW 87 - KARAOKE HITS!" on the shelves?

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simplyjimbo

is another one of those BS reports where actually it is the media … is another one of those BS reports where actually it is the media circulating fake convictions



I doubt it, it names her etc and is being reported on other sites like the bbc

bbc.co.uk/new…116

Well I should imagine the companies that make and distribute karaoke 'songs' have to pay an awful lot in royalties, therefore lose a lot of money.

Made me laugh that the lawyer is arguing she did it to make her feel better.

on the reported material that surely seems a crime.

a lowly paid nursing assistant suffering from mental health problems is prosecuted as a criminal with absolutely no evidence of any loss or harm to any party?
Strathclyde police hang your heads in shame...

Actually they wouldn't have to pay that much. Just the music. No lyrics over. you pay more if you use music but change words than if you did a straight cover. There are no lyrics on karaoke and most of the rime it ain't the actual original sound track.

sancho1983

Well I should imagine the companies that make and distribute karaoke … Well I should imagine the companies that make and distribute karaoke 'songs' have to pay an awful lot in royalties, therefore lose a lot of money. Made me laugh that the lawyer is arguing she did it to make her feel better.



"Mrs Muir was not in any way trying to distribute on a large scale, she had a very big quantity of these files because she was hoarding - a symptom of a severe obsessive personality disorder that she suffers from."

Her mental condition could be true as many hoarders collect items many of which have no real purpose or intended use. I suffer from this too but I blame this website for all the bargains it keeps on showing X)
Edited by: "simplyjimbo" 12th May 2011

Interesting. Perhaps this is the way forward, rather than bombard people with letters like ACS and Davenport were doing. It will be interesting to see what happens to others.

you break the law you get punished simples.

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maddogb

on the reported material that surely seems a crime.a lowly paid nursing … on the reported material that surely seems a crime.a lowly paid nursing assistant suffering from mental health problems is prosecuted as a criminal with absolutely no evidence of any loss or harm to any party?Strathclyde police hang your heads in shame...



I think the music companies would disagree.
If you are going to comit a criminal offence (which this is, rather than just downloading) then don't cry if you get caught. In previous threads about this type of thing I've said using unencrypted torrents is stupid and that its a criminal offence rather than civil like downloading and been told time and time again I'm wrong.
I really dont know why people use torrents unless its for older more obscure stuff that might not be on usenet (which I would suggest is very little)

good stuff

1 person,only 20million people in the uk left to catch!

says she got convicted, wonder what her fine was?????
Edited by: "tdogg" 12th May 2011

tdogg

1 person,only 20million people in the uk left to catch!says she got … 1 person,only 20million people in the uk left to catch!says she got convicted, wonder what her fine was?????




She has been sentenced to sing 200 hours of Max Bygraves songs in a care home to the OAPs

they do this every so often just to try scare us all into downloading legally, they're never going to do it on a mass scale

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thegroutch

they do this every so often just to try scare us all into downloading … they do this every so often just to try scare us all into downloading legally, they're never going to do it on a mass scale



they've never done it before as far as I know, not sure why you think they have, can you link to some of the previous cases?

colinsunderland

I think the music companies would disagree.If you are going to comit a … I think the music companies would disagree.If you are going to comit a criminal offence (which this is, rather than just downloading) then don't cry if you get caught. In previous threads about this type of thing I've said using unencrypted torrents is stupid and that its a criminal offence rather than civil like downloading and been told time and time again I'm wrong.I really dont know why people use torrents unless its for older more obscure stuff that might not be on usenet (which I would suggest is very little)



the music companies would disagree with everyone who is not paying £5 just to listen to a music track, who cares? my point still stands and nazi like behaviour by authorities only justified by complaint from very wealthy private companies is something you really shouldn't be trying to justify.
the woman was mentally/emotionally impaired, doesn't mean she is "stupid" as you so eloquently put it.

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colinsunderland

I think the music companies would disagree.If you are going to comit a … I think the music companies would disagree.If you are going to comit a criminal offence (which this is, rather than just downloading) then don't cry if you get caught. In previous threads about this type of thing I've said using unencrypted torrents is stupid and that its a criminal offence rather than civil like downloading and been told time and time again I'm wrong.I really dont know why people use torrents unless its for older more obscure stuff that might not be on usenet (which I would suggest is very little)

the woman was mentally/emotionally impaired, doesn't mean she is "stupid" … the woman was mentally/emotionally impaired, doesn't mean she is "stupid" as you so eloquently put it.



Where did I try to justify it, but the fact remains, if you break the law and get caught, don't cry about it. The whole of the supply chain loses money because of downloading so there is actual loss, although nowhere near as much as the record/film companies try to say. I'm not trying to justify anything, I download about 300gb a month myself so am certainly not trying to say 'anyone who downloads stuff should be shot'. The differenc being, I don't particulary want a criminal record that would bar me from many jobs etc, so don't upload and distribute at the same time.



Yes, I specifically said she personally is stupid. Oh and people have been known to magically get 'mental problems' when appearing in court, as many are hard to disprove.
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