Found 25th Oct 2009
I'm just about to order some internal vaneer doors. I havn't had vaneer doors before, are they any good? Would i need to varnish/treat them?

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No you don't need to varnish or treat them - that is what the veneer is

Edit - I am wrong, you can apparently after googling but if you try to stain them first it will come out streaky

Hopefully someone else will come along with better advice than me :oops:

Just wipe over with a damp cloth

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fireheaven;6687667

No you don't need to varnish or treat them - that is what the veneer … No you don't need to varnish or treat them - that is what the veneer isEdit - I am wrong, you can apparently after googling but if you try to stain them first it will come out streakyI've googled it too, and have mixed advice, thought i'd ask the very helpful peeps on here. I too thought that was the vaneer was forHopefully someone else will come along with better advice than me :oops:



I've googled it too, and have mixed advice, thought i'd ask the very helpful peeps on here. I too thought that was the vaneer was for

renown;6687675

Just wipe over with a damp cloth



Thats would be easy

nadss;6687725

I've googled it too, and have mixed advice, thought i'd ask the very … I've googled it too, and have mixed advice, thought i'd ask the very helpful peeps on here. I too thought that was the vaneer was forThats would be easy



Once you start varnishing or coating these doors you will have to continue they should have a durable enough finish to last for years.
If after a while you feel they are fading a little the easiest thing to use is a little teak oil on a cloth again just wipe it on following the grain will soon dry job done no preperation required between applications over the years The end

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renown;6687809

Once you start varnishing or coating these doors you will have to … Once you start varnishing or coating these doors you will have to continue they should have a durable enough finish to last for years. :)If after a while you feel they are fading a little the easiest thing to use is a little teak oil on a cloth again just wipe it on following the grain will soon dry job done no preperation required between applications over the years The end



Thanks for that have some H&R:thumbsup: would i have to buff them a little first before varnishing, then buff again, and varnish, like a normal wooded door?

renown;6687809

Once you start varnishing or coating these doors you will have to … Once you start varnishing or coating these doors you will have to continue they should have a durable enough finish to last for years. :)If after a while you feel they are fading a little the easiest thing to use is a little teak oil on a cloth again just wipe it on following the grain will soon dry job done no preperation required between applications over the years The end



nadss;6687725

I've googled it too, and have mixed advice, thought i'd ask the very … I've googled it too, and have mixed advice, thought i'd ask the very helpful peeps on here.




And so they are, as above - knew someone would help you out :thumbsup:

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fireheaven;6687941

And so they are, as above - knew someone would help you out :thumbsup:



H&R for you too for trying :thumbsup:

nadss;6687952

H&R for you too for trying :thumbsup:



Heat and rep for Fireheaven? :giggle:

nadss;6687901

Thanks for that have some H&R:thumbsup: would i have to buff them a … Thanks for that have some H&R:thumbsup: would i have to buff them a little first before varnishing, then buff again, and varnish, like a normal wooded door?



No no no ! dont use varnish you will create yourself a lot of work for ever and a day.
Either keep as they come and wipe clean weekly or once a year apply with a cloth teak oil if that is there finish obviously :-D

Marina;6687979

Heat and rep for Fireheaven? :giggle:



Hahahaha - could do with some heat though, I am bloody freezing

renown;6688002

No no no ! dont use varnish you will create yourself a lot of work for … No no no ! dont use varnish you will create yourself a lot of work for ever and a day.Either keep as they come and wipe clean weekly or once a year apply with a cloth teak oil if that is there finish obviously :-D




I could imagine you wagging your finger there as you said that :lol:

Having check google is rubbish on this subject so its all down to you to help the OP

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renown;6688002

No no no ! dont use varnish you will create yourself a lot of work for … No no no ! dont use varnish you will create yourself a lot of work for ever and a day.Either keep as they come and wipe clean weekly or once a year apply with a cloth teak oil if that is there finish obviously :-D



That saves a lot of hard work:)

:thumbsup:

Veneered doors can be bought Finished and ready to hang AND unfinished.

If they are finished you may find that you can't cut them down to size. These are normally favoured in new build or where new door frames have been installed at standardised sizes.

IF bought Unfinished then they have to be treated/varnished before hanging and they can also be cut to size HOWEVER be aware that this is usually 3-6mm per side any more and you would seriously weaken the door or even render it unusable.

Check first if they are Finished or Pre-Finished with the retailer.

Whilst veneered doors are fairly robust there are some serious disadvantages i.e. if you chip the veneer which is usually wafer thin, then the door is boogered.

I would also look into clear pine if you're on a budget, or real hardwood doors if you want to go the full shibang.

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bargain surfer;6688446

Veneered doors can be bought Finished and ready to hang, which usually … Veneered doors can be bought Finished and ready to hang, which usually means you may find that you can't cut them down to size. These are normally favoured in new build or where new door frames have been installed at standardised sizes.IF bought Unfinished then they have to be treated/varnished before hanging and they can also be cut to size HOWEVER be aware that this is usually 3-6mm per side any more and you would seriously weaken the door or even render it unusable.Check first if they are Finished or Pre-Finished with the retailer.Whilst veneered doors are fairly robust there are some serious disadvantages i.e. if you chip the veneer which is usually wafer thin, then the door is boogered.I would also look into clear pine if you're on a budget, or real hardwood doors if you want to go the full shibang.



Ive ordered these:
wickes.co.uk/Con…443
they are unfinished so i will need to varnish them afterall, i have someone coming to fit them so thats not a problem was just not too sure about whether id have to varnish, reading the description again it does though say unfinished
thanks for your help

I'd go for 2-3 coats of Ronson satin sheen varnish, preferably before you hang them and with the door horizontal. (you'd need to do first one side then t'other). Give them a gentle rub down with fine wire wool between the coats. Not too aggressive, just enough to take off the nibs. Watch for runs

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Fluffykins;6688713

I'd go for 2-3 coats of Ronson satin sheen varnish, preferably before you … I'd go for 2-3 coats of Ronson satin sheen varnish, preferably before you hang them and with the door horizontal. (you'd need to do first one side then t'other). Give them a gentle rub down with fine wire wool between the coats. Not too aggressive, just enough to take off the nibs. Watch for runs



Thank you for that, would i need to rub the door down with wire wool before the first coat? ie the door itself or just after the coats of varnish

I have internal oak doors with some veneer in certain sections. As some have said, it depends on the manufacturer's instructions - but as they've said you can varnish, go for it - but use a good quality varnish.

The above posted mentioned using wire wool - personally, I used sand paper and got a good finish - you're supposed to sand before varnishing and after each coat - I never - sanded before then wiped down with white spirit.

As the doors are internal, a good varnish should last you a long time.

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So i have had my doors delivered and i have ordered some door furniture for it, i ordered the handles and i thought they would come complete, but i only have the handles, none of the other bits, i need the plate that goes on the side of the door frame for it to shut and all the bits that go with the door handle (latch type of thing) i have no idea what they are called. I have ordered the handles from screwfix, i have a screwfix nearby if anyone can help with the names of the things i need. Hope i havn't confused you all too much, as you can tell i really don't have a clue :-/

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Goonieman;6712687

You need ]Mortice latches



Thank you Goonieman: thumbsup: they have a few sizes 63mm and 75mm, what does this depend on:thinking:
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