Work want some money back from me... do I have to pay?

I used to contribute £14 a month to my company car which were provided to us on a 12 month contract. After 12 months I didn't order a new car but the £14 deduction from my wages stopped, this was back in April 2008.

Now they're bugging me to order a new car and have told me the deductions should never have stopped. Therefore the deductions will start again and they want back what I haven't paid, which is about £200.

They have offered me to pay in up to 3 installments which therefore at it's cheapest will be an extra ~£80 a month worse off for 3 months (£65 for the recovery and £14 standard deduction)

Now we have a 13month old boy and my wife hasn't returned to work yet as she is just completing University and I only work part time so there is no way we can afford to be £80 a month worse off for 3months.

What options do I have? Any advice would be appreciated.

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Did you sign a contract?

Surely they cant make you take a company car?

tell them to whistle mate,

have you still been using the company car?

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i know you say you didnt order a new one, but did you carry on with the old one

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Dellboy182;5744082

Did you sign a contract?



For the company car? Erm, not sure, I'd have to check my paperwork at home. I probably signed something that had the car details on and what the contribution would be

publicnme;5744150

For the company car? Erm, not sure, I'd have to check my paperwork at … For the company car? Erm, not sure, I'd have to check my paperwork at home. I probably signed something that had the car details on and what the contribution would be



Well have a read up on it and see were you stand.

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Yes I'm still using the car I ordered in April 2007. At the time, company cars were only meant to be kept for 12 months and we can't opt out at our grade. However we've recently been taken over by another company and moved to their car list, and now heads of HR are emailing me telling me to order a new car and repay what I owe them. I've told them I want to keep my current car as to order a new one will be a downgrade, but apparently I can't

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Dellboy182;5744168

Well have a read up on it and see were you stand.



I'm going to, I just wondered if people knew if they most they could take is like £10 a month or something

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publicnme;5744181

Yes I'm still using the car I ordered in April 2007. At the time, company … Yes I'm still using the car I ordered in April 2007. At the time, company cars were only meant to be kept for 12 months and we can't opt out at our grade. However we've recently been taken over by another company and moved to their car list, and now heads of HR are emailing me telling me to order a new car and repay what I owe them. I've told them I want to keep my current car as to order a new one will be a downgrade, but apparently I can't



if you have still got the car then they are within their rights to ask you to pay for it, whther you orded a new one or not

Well if your still using the car then sounds like your gonna have to pay.

If you are still using it you must pay, if you aren't then no.......

publicnme;5744181

Yes I'm still using the car I ordered in April 2007. At the time, company … Yes I'm still using the car I ordered in April 2007. At the time, company cars were only meant to be kept for 12 months and we can't opt out at our grade. However we've recently been taken over by another company and moved to their car list, and now heads of HR are emailing me telling me to order a new car and repay what I owe them. I've told them I want to keep my current car as to order a new one will be a downgrade, but apparently I can't



Are you a member of a union? If so you have a free legal advice help line that will be able to advise whether you have to repay, as they chose not to take the money rather than you stopping payments it seems a bit harsh but you would need proper legal advice. Otherwise check your home insurance for legal advice cover, again if you have legal cover there will be a phone line to call and they will advise over the phone whether you should repay.

publicnme;5744189

I'm going to, I just wondered if people knew if they most they could take … I'm going to, I just wondered if people knew if they most they could take is like £10 a month or something



Maximum repayments for these things depends upon your income.

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Thanks all for the help, rep will be given.

I accept it will probably have to be re-paid, just wondered if anyone knew there was a black and white "maximum reclaim amount". Failing all else, I'll just write to the HR department and explain the circumstances

publicnme;5744269

Thanks all for the help, rep will be given.I accept it will probably have … Thanks all for the help, rep will be given.I accept it will probably have to be re-paid, just wondered if anyone knew there was a black and white "maximum reclaim amount". Failing all else, I'll just write to the HR department and explain the circumstances



Yeah tell them that with a new baby that you cant afford to pay it back like that and could they reduce your payments.

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dcx_badass;5744275

12 months is very short for a car, I thought most companies kept them for … 12 months is very short for a car, I thought most companies kept them for 3 years.



I know, it was a good scheme. I got a (RRP) £25k Peugeot 407 for £14 a month at the time, now I have to order a 308 to keep for 3 years. Should be a good runner with 100k on the clock at the end...

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i dont know when you went part time, but have you notified ctc about it?

[QUOTE=publicnme;5744269]

I accept it will probably have to be re-paid, just wondered if anyone knew there was a black and white "maximum reclaim amount". Failing all else, I'll just write to the HR department and explain the circumstances[/QUOTE

Write to them (or telephone) and tell them you cannot afford for an extra £80 to be deducted from your wages for the next 3 months and make them a sensible offer, have a think what you can afford. Maybe ask them to take the £200 owed over 5 months that would mean you are deducted the £14 for the car & £40 for the arrears making £54 per month.
You will have to repay but should have a say in how long to repay over, don't forget to point out to them they failed to stop the money from your wages so that was their fault not yours.

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sassie;5744458

i dont know when you went part time, but have you notified ctc about it?



as in child tax credits? Yeah we have, we couldn't survive without them as we get DLA as well

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publicnme;5744578

as in child tax credits? Yeah we have, we couldn't survive without them … as in child tax credits? Yeah we have, we couldn't survive without them as we get DLA as well



oh ok, was just making sure :thumbsup:

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sassie;5744589

oh ok, was just making sure :thumbsup:



No quite right as there are many that don't and miss out

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dcx_badass;5744567

Yeah, we just got a new Audi A4 yesterday, stupid Audi took 3 months to … Yeah, we just got a new Audi A4 yesterday, stupid Audi took 3 months to deliver it WTF.



3 months for delivery is about standard isn't it? We used to order ours at 9 months so if you were lucky you got your new car after 10months, but usually closer to the full year.

three months for an M3 convertible.

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if you are still using the car then you still have to pay.

speak to them, explain the circumstances and see if they will be flexible on the terms of paying it back

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who stopped the contributions? you or them?

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dimebars;5746795

who stopped the contributions? you or them?



they did, they just stopped being deducted from my salary each month
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