Xiaomi M365 e-scooter - tyre / inner tube advice required

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Posted 6th OctEdited by:"TopTrump"
Hi there.

Well, it was bound to happen at some point, a puncture! Despite my best efforts to avoid one, it appears it's something I need to learn to accept will need dealing with.

A look online unveils there are quite a few different types of tyres and inner tubes available for the M365.

Can anybody offer any advice of what I need to look for in getting something that's of better quality/less prone to failure? Tyres are ok for the moment, but I'm on the lookout to order some inner tubes if better than pre-packaged ones exist.

I've had a look at some of the UK suppliers and what else is available from online international sellers. I've seen CST branded tyres and inner tubes being sold by mybestscooter.co.uk/ - claiming they are thicker, but it states it's a 9" diameter BUT suitable for an M365, so I've got some questions on the sizing, why the difference from what should be 8.5"?

Any help, gratefully received.


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Some of the inner tubes available on eBay make all sorts of claims; twice the wall thickness at 1.8mm, others mentioning being made of Butyl Rubber, some claim an increased number of 'enhancement stripes' "30 vs the 17 of the original", some with angled tyre valves, reinforced valves and so it goes on.
With the research I've done so far, some of it appears to be just shpiel and may be of little relevance to quality, others, I'm assuming thickness of rubber, indicate better construction.


The rear inner tube that's failed needs replacing, doesn't really have any distinguishing marks, maybe they've just faded through use, but looking at the 2 spare sets of tyres and tubes the scooter is provided with as part of the package (bought from Halfords), I've noticed the tyres, are both branded CHAO YANG.
It differs from the prefitted front which branded CST (with a Xiaomi logo). The prefitted rear is a CHAO YANG, again with a Xiaomi logo on it. (It seems the M365 is just fitted with whatever they have in stock during factory assembly, I don't know? It seems CST's might be held in higher regard relating to quality?)

The spare two inner tubes have no branding I can identify, except for something that looks like a rising sun (but no signs of The Animals, or a reference to Japan), a yellow line on the outer circumference, and "8 1/2 x 2L" (I'm guessing measurements) printed and CY458212L moulding stamps.
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Thanks in advance for your responses.
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Mine came with 2 spare tyres and inner tubes, both of which I punctured in the process of trying to replace the original puncture. There are videos on YouTube, all of which make it look a lot easier than it actually is. Best advice is to get some Slime from Amazon and put that in the inner tubes before you get any punctures. In the end, I bought a solid tyre (also Amazon), which is not as grippy (especially when wet) and also slightly heavier, so don't quite get the same range out of it.
n1ck0906/10/2019 16:28

Mine came with 2 spare tyres and inner tubes, both of which I punctured in …Mine came with 2 spare tyres and inner tubes, both of which I punctured in the process of trying to replace the original puncture. There are videos on YouTube, all of which make it look a lot easier than it actually is. Best advice is to get some Slime from Amazon and put that in the inner tubes before you get any punctures. In the end, I bought a solid tyre (also Amazon), which is not as grippy (especially when wet) and also slightly heavier, so don't quite get the same range out of it.


The videos make it seem like a 5 minute job when in reality takes an hour if not more.
When I first got it, I refrained from riding it. Thought I'll get the preventive measures in place first. Took me about 2 hours to fit the wheels with anti-puncture liners, bought some Weldtite inner tube sealant, I thought, 'I'll get round to it, I've got the tyres lined so should be alright, don't want to be adding gloop into them quite yet'. Never did get round to it, now I'm thinking - 'what did I expect?!'

All was well until I slid sideways with the scooter over some mud which I didn't see in the poor lighting of an underpass the day after heavy rain, fell off and the wheel hit the cyclepath's kerb. Initially everything was fine. A week or so later the thing was vibrating like a jackhammer. Took it apart last night and found the inner tube had mangled itself, hence the slow puncture. Later found air was coming out somewhere on the sidewall.

If you get a second, do you mind checking if the tyres yours came with are CST or CHAO YANG branded or a mixture?

Just find it a little odd that Xiaomi supplied two CHAO's as the spares and fitted another on the rear wheel and fitted a CST on the front. The scooter was given to me all boxed with the packing strapping all in tact, the M365 was completely new, no marks on it, the tyres had no wear on them and still had that sheen new boots come with.
Edited by: "TopTrump" 6th Oct
TopTrump06/10/2019 17:01

The videos make it seem like a 5 minute job when in reality takes an hour …The videos make it seem like a 5 minute job when in reality takes an hour if not more.When I first got it, I refrained from riding it. Thought I'll get the preventive measures in place first. Took me about 2 hours to fit the wheels with anti-puncture liners, bought some Weldtite inner tube sealant, I thought, 'I'll get round to it, I've got the tyres lined so should be alright, don't want to be adding gloop into them quite yet'. Never did get round to it, now I'm thinking - 'what did I expect?!' All was well until I slid sideways with the scooter over some mud which I didn't see in the poor lighting of an underpass the day after heavy rain, fell off and the wheel hit the cyclepath's kerb. Initially everything was fine. A week or so later the thing was vibrating like a jackhammer. Took it apart last night and found the inner tube had mangled itself, hence the slow puncture. Later found air was coming out somewhere on the sidewall.If you get a second, do you mind checking if the tyres yours came with are CST or CHAO YANG branded or a mixture?Just find it a little odd that Xiaomi supplied two CHAO's as the spares and fitted another on the rear wheel and fitted a CST on the front. The scooter was given to me all boxed with the packing strapping all in tact, the M365 was completely new, no marks on it, the tyres had no wear on them and still had that sheen new boots come with.


Just checked and mine came with CSTs fitted and CSTs as spares. Bought from Aliexpress and shipped from Spain.
n1ck0906/10/2019 17:35

Just checked and mine came with CSTs fitted and CSTs as spares. Bought …Just checked and mine came with CSTs fitted and CSTs as spares. Bought from Aliexpress and shipped from Spain.


Cool. Thanks n1ck.
Have you asked halfords?
Misslovely06/10/2019 19:32

Have you asked halfords?


Ha!
If I have to resort to asking them I may as well take a lucky dip.
I knew more about the product when I was buying it (and I knew nothing apart from how to pronounce Emm three six five).

I've gone for 2 CSTs on eBay for just under £5, from Chinese stockist. Decision based on specialist retailer mybestscooter.co.uk/ stocking the same brand claiming they are more robust.

Seems what you get from the factory is pot luck. Xiaomi store in Westfield knew nothing about it.
Edited by: "TopTrump" 8th Oct
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