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    Yorkshire ripper seeks legal aid to find out how long he should remain in jail

    Apparently Peter Sutcliffe is seeking £50,000 in legal aid so that he can go to court to find out how long he must remain in jail.
    What an utter waste of money. Personally i would have hung him 30 years ago.
    Apparently he was given a minimum of 30 years which runs out next year so it is to clarify how long his sentence is. I am sure he will remain in jail but what a waste of money. He killed 13 women and attacked 7 others usually with a hammer over the head.

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    he should of got hanged

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    SORRY , i think i`ve logged onto `THE SUN` news page by mistake.

    "Personally i would have hung him 30 years ago."

    It's perfect in thoery but the US suffers more violent crime and has capital punishment. Also since death is final then the ability to overturn incorrect verdicts is kind of pointless.

    That said I am a supporter of capital punishment due to the cost of imprisonment.

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    aaronliggins;7990641

    he should of got hanged



    +1

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    aaronliggins;7990641

    he should of got hanged



    Perfectly encapsulates that type of argument:-D

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    Phychlone;7990658

    "Personally i would have hung him 30 years ago."It's perfect in thoery … "Personally i would have hung him 30 years ago."It's perfect in thoery but the US suffers more violent crime and has capital punishment. Also since death is final then the ability to overturn incorrect verdicts is kind of pointless.That said I am a supporter of capital punishment due to the cost of imprisonment.



    Even though the US system doesn't seem to find it any cheaper?

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    tangramman;7990653

    SORRY , i think i`ve logged onto `THE SUN` news page by mistake.



    Lol sorry but when i read it in the mail...i was incensed had to tell someone and the other half is out at the moment.

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    Goofeys Girl;7990699

    Lol sorry but when i read it in the mail...i was incensed had to tell … Lol sorry but when i read it in the mail...i was incensed had to tell someone and the other half is out at the moment.



    He was told he had to serve a minimum of 30 years, and now he wants to know how much longer:?

    Dreadful human that he is, I can't really see the issue.

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    Goofeys Girl;7990699

    Lol sorry but when i read it in the mail...i was incensed had to tell … Lol sorry but when i read it in the mail...i was incensed had to tell someone and the other half is out at the moment.



    It is a disgrace.

    He got 20 life sentences.

    Complete joke.

    Some of his victims are still suffering.

    or torture

    FilthAndFurry;7990688

    Even though the US system doesn't seem to find it any cheaper?



    Think people on death row are kept in jail for 15+ years to exhaust all potential appeals. Kind of defaets the object.:-D

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    aaronliggins;7990730

    or torture



    Calm down Mr Mosley.:oops:

    But what if he's now reformed? :roll:

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    FilthAndFurry;7990713

    He was told he had to serve a minimum of 30 years, and now he wants to … He was told he had to serve a minimum of 30 years, and now he wants to know how much longer:?Dreadful human that he is, I can't really see the issue.



    Think the money could have been better spent...maybe towards victims of viloent crime. But i appreciate this is parr for the course. If we cant hang him i just wish the law could say life and mean life.

    phychlone But what if he's now reform

    they all ways do it again its there way of life

    my tax money eurghhhh

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    Phychlone;7990765

    But what if he's now reformed? :roll:



    I don't care if he is reformed or not.

    I do not want him to have any freedom.

    His victims don't have freedom anymore :x

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    Phychlone;7990765

    But what if he's now reformed? :roll:



    Oh you are so right :whistling: maybe he could come out and be an odd job man around the house. Wouldnt want to give him an hammer though. Maybe a bit too tempting.:w00t:

    should be told he is going to be released and executed the day before

    20 life sentences thats how long he should remain in jail. Im sure his inmates give him hell!

    Phychlone:
    But what if he's now reformed
    let him be a teacher of a girls school. u never no who are employed these days

    Strange. People have committed less of a crime and received longer sentences......on the other side of the coin...people who have committed harrowing crimes have received little or no sentence at all e.g. rapists, paedophiles etc. Example dailysquib.co.uk/?c=…773

    Lets not forget little Jamie Bulger and the 2 murdering gits that were not only released, but released under anonymity (again another cost to the tax payer) and they served a low sentence.

    Not that long ago the government had to pay prisoners compensation as they were drug addicts and because the act of locking them up and not getting their "hit" meant that their human rights had been breached. Cost? Around £4,000 per prisoner. This is over and above them getting a free bed, free meals, access to pc's, the internet, games consoles and getting their morning paper delivered to them. Example dailymail.co.uk/new…tml

    The public purse has many use's and people would be very surprised if they knew what/who they were paying their hard earned cash to support.

    Dont be surprised if the Ripper is released within the next 3 years.

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    willdev;7990880

    20 life sentences thats how long he should remain in jail. Im sure his … 20 life sentences thats how long he should remain in jail. Im sure his inmates give him hell!



    During his time at Parkhurst he was seriously assaulted for the first time. The attack was carried out by James Costello, a 35-year-old career criminal from Glasgow with several convictions for violence. On 10 January 1983, he followed Sutcliffe into the recess of F2, the hospital wing at Parkhurst Prison. He plunged a broken coffee jar twice into the left side of Sutcliffe's face, creating four separate wounds requiring a total of 30 stitches.

    On 23 February 1996, Sutcliffe was attacked in his private room in the Henley Ward of Broadmoor Hospital. Paul Wilson, a convicted robber, asked to borrow a video cassette before attempting to strangle him with the flex from a pair of stereo headphones. Two other murderers, Kenneth Erskine (the "Stockwell Strangler") and Jamie Devitt, intervened upon hearing Sutcliffe's screams.

    After an attack by fellow inmate Ian Kay on 10 March 1997 with a pen, Sutcliffe lost vision in his left eye, and his right eye was severely damaged.[22] Kay admitted he had tried to kill Sutcliffe, and was ordered to be detained in a secure mental hospital without time limit.

    They should have finished the job.

    Should release him then move him to Leicester.

    Gordon's got the right idea:
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    StevenA2000_uk;7990900

    Strange. People have committed less of a crime and received longer … Strange. People have committed less of a crime and received longer sentences......on the other side of the coin...people who have committed harrowing crimes have received little or no sentence at all e.g. rapists, paedophiles etc. Example http://www.dailysquib.co.uk/?c=117&a=1773Lets not forget little Jamie Bulger and the 2 murdering gits that were not only released, but released under anonymity (again another cost to the tax payer) and they served a low sentence.Not that long ago the government had to pay prisoners compensation as they were drug addicts and because the act of locking them up and not getting their "hit" meant that their human rights had been breached. Cost? Around £4,000 per prisoner. This is over and above them getting a free bed, free meals, access to pc's, the internet, games consoles and getting their morning paper delivered to them. Example http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1091676/Drug-addicted-prisoners-receive-compensation-forced-cold-turkey.htmlThe public purse has many use's and people would be very surprised if they knew what/who they were paying their hard earned cash to support.Dont be surprised if the Ripper is released within the next 3 years.


    DAILY MAIL - Need I say anymore?

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    willdev;7991135

    Gordon's got the right idea:]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7897700.stm:)



    He wants people to vote for him.

    i hope he remains behind bars indefinalty

    my OH still suffers from an attack from about 8 years ago ( FYI not from the guy in OPs post )
    he is disabled and has many things wrong all because someone decided they would attack him

    the men who did it got 4 years and served about 2 years of that sentance, they are now free to live their lives whilst my OH still suffers


    Peter Sutcliffe should be left to rot and should not be allowed to use legal aid for any kind of appeal

    aaronliggins;7990817

    my tax money eurghhhh


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    We would be spending more tax money to keep him imprisoned.

    BTW I pay more tax than you so my opinion is worth more.[/COLOR]

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    Goofeys Girl;7990773

    Think the money could have been better spent...maybe towards victims of … Think the money could have been better spent...maybe towards victims of viloent crime. But i appreciate this is parr for the course. If we cant hang him i just wish the law could say life and mean life.



    It can and does. In this case it didn't, it gave a 30 year tariff. However I seem to remember reading that the tariff was never set by the home secretary (as it had to be back then rather than the judge which would happen now), therefore if thats the case he could have, in theory, been released before now.

    willdev;7990880

    20 life sentences thats how long he should remain in jail. Im sure his … 20 life sentences thats how long he should remain in jail. Im sure his inmates give him hell!



    He got life sentences not life in prison.

    Anyway, in true daily mail style this story is blown out of all proportion. This hearing is only to set a tariff not to release him. If the HS had done his job at the time this wouldn't be needed, but chances are it will be set as a whole life tariff anyway.

    Even if it isn't, a tariff is only a guide, and even if the authorities considered him to be nearing release it would be a minimum of 5 more years before he walked out of a prison.

    My prediction - he will die in jail, and rightly so.

    colinsunderland;7991264

    It can and does. In this case it didn't, it gave a 30 year tariff. … It can and does. In this case it didn't, it gave a 30 year tariff. However I seem to remember reading that the tariff was never set by the home secretary (as it had to be back then rather than the judge which would happen now), therefore if thats the case he could have, in theory, been released before now.He got life sentences not life in prison.Anyway, in true daily mail style this story is blown out of all proportion. This hearing is only to set a tariff not to release him. If the HS had done his job at the time this wouldn't be needed, but chances are it will be set as a whole life tariff anyway.Even if it isn't, a tariff is only a guide, and even if the authorities considered him to be nearing release it would be a minimum of 5 more years before he walked out of a prison.My prediction - he will die in jail, and rightly so.


    Yeah but isn't a life sentence 25 years? so 25 years x20 = 500 years which is what I think he should serve (so dies in prison)

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    willdev;7991285

    Yeah but isn't a life sentence 25 years?



    no, its life, part spent in prison (the tariff + some more) and rest spent on license.
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