Found 25th Jan 2009
The corporation has resisted pressure to follow rival channels ITV, Channel 4 and Five who are to show the DEC film.

It says it would put its reputation for impartiality at risk, but other ministers and the Archbishop of York have urged the BBC to air the appeal.

BBC Trust chairman Michael Lyons has voiced fears of political interference.

On Thursday it emerged that the publicly-funded BBC had decided not to broadcast British charities' appeal to raise funds to help thousands in Gaza without food or medicine.

ITV and Sky had agreed with the BBC, but ITV later reversed its decision. Sky says it is still considering the Disasters Emergency Committee's request.

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Naeem786;4186049

Why they not airing it?



Because its boring and on other channels.

Did they air an appeal for Iraq?

Sky wont unless all the terrestrial channels agree to air it.
Dont think they should IMO

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deathtrap3000;4186070

Because its boring and on other channels.



But its an international crisis,why would they think about it? Why decline?

Naeem786;4186095

But its an international crisis,why would they think about it? Why … But its an international crisis,why would they think about it? Why decline?



because they need to stay 'impartial', read the news.

to many problems in the uk to care about other people, we are in recession and they want to give money to other contries GOOD IDEA

typical pompous posts from those who think they know it all. appeals for the congo crisis raised substantial funds.

boring ?, when your family's been wiped out and you've nowhere to stay, you'll appreciate the fact people will get bored to see your plight.

as for Iraq, the british went there to instill democracy, and will claim it is doing so. remember the Dr Kelly scenario ?

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scotland88;4186117

to many problems in the uk to care about other people, we are in … to many problems in the uk to care about other people, we are in recession and they want to give money to other contries GOOD IDEA



I always give money to charity!!

Personally I think it is a big mistake the BBC is making... their impartiality is compromised more by their action to refuse to air than it would have been had they agreed to air. Rather than appearing to be somehow supporting the actions of Hamas, they are instead appearing to be very gingerly avoiding stepping on the toes of the Israel. It is clear that in this conflict, the humanitarian plight of the Palestinians vastly out scales whatever humanitarian issues affect Israeli citizens (something that should also not be ignored).

If there is anything good to be said about the BBC move, it is that the appeal for aid in Gaza is getting more coverage than it could have ever wished for without the controversy. If that was a deliberate publicity stunt, then my hat goes off to he marketing guru behind that one.

myaser88;4186138

typical pompous posts from those who think they know it all. appeals for … typical pompous posts from those who think they know it all. appeals for the congo crisis raised substantial funds.boring ?, when your family's been wiped out and you've nowhere to stay, you'll appreciate the fact people will get bored to see your plight.as for Iraq, the british went there to instill democracy, and will claim it is doing so. remember the Dr Kelly scenario ?



I dont claim to know enough about it, I for sure dont think I know it all.

scotland88;4186117

to many problems in the uk to care about other people, we are in … to many problems in the uk to care about other people, we are in recession and they want to give money to other contries GOOD IDEA




its an appeal, you're not obliged to donate. is it too much for your miniscule intellect to handle ?

i agree with the BBC.

We pay for their service and i dont think it is in the UK's public interest to air it.

Just my 2 cents

myaser88;4186138

as for Iraq, the british went there to instill democracy, and will claim … as for Iraq, the british went there to instill democracy, and will claim it is doing so. remember the Dr Kelly scenario ?


That maybe. But Iraq was a man made issue caused by American and British Troops.

This is a man made issue, caused by another foreign country. I don't see why we have to be involved. This country has enough problems! Homeless, Drug Abuse, Underage Pregnancies, Increase Knife Crime...the list goes on and on and on.

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scotland88;4186117

to many problems in the uk to care about other people, we are in … to many problems in the uk to care about other people, we are in recession and they want to give money to other contries GOOD IDEA



Agreed this country is in recession because we have helped too many countries.

We help everyone, I'm surprised we haven't sunk with the amount of refugees living over here :x

Titchimp;4186162

i agree with the BBC. We pay for their service and i dont think it is in … i agree with the BBC. We pay for their service and i dont think it is in the UK's public interest to air it. Just my 2 cents




the BBC has aired many DEC appeals, with the most recent being in regards to the congo conflict. it is imperative for the BBC to air it, especially as its publicly funded!

personally i think the BBC have got it spot on. they're right that people in the middle east who watch the BBC would get the message that the BBC are supporting the hamas side. they have to remain impartial as a public broadcaster should. the other times where the DEC have campaigned for man-made disasters like darfur there was a clear good guy/ bad guy situation. in this instance there isn't.

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dotcomslashnet;4186142

Personally I think it is a big mistake the BBC is making... their … Personally I think it is a big mistake the BBC is making... their impartiality is compromised by their action to refuse to air than it would have been had they agreed to air. Rather than appearing to be somehow supporting the actions of Hamas, they are instead appearing to be very gingerly avoiding stepping on the toes of the Israel. It is clear that in this conflict, the humanitarian plight of the Palestinians vastly out scales whatever humanitarian issues affect Israeli citizens (something that should also not be ignored). If there is anything good to be said about the BBC move, it is that the appeal for aid in Gaza is getting more coverage than it could have ever wished for without the controversy. If that was a deliberate publicity stunt, then my hat goes off to he marketing guru behind that one.



They are, maybe showing their views and not wanting to be in bad books of some people?

myaser88;4186185

the BBC has aired many DEC appeals, with the most recent being in regards … the BBC has aired many DEC appeals, with the most recent being in regards to the congo conflict. it is imperative for the BBC to air it, especially as its publicly funded!



its on itv what the heck difference does it make, jst press three on your tv remote or 103 on sky and watch it their !

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wolf359;4186198

personally i think the BBC have got it spot on. they're right that people … personally i think the BBC have got it spot on. they're right that people in the middle east who watch the BBC would get the message that the BBC are supporting the hamas side. they have to remain impartial as a public broadcaster should. the other times where the DEC have campaigned for man-made disasters like darfur there was a clear good guy/ bad guy situation. in this instance there isn't.



How is it if they aired it show support for Hamas? They are asking for help for the innocent civilians killed by the Israeli army which everyone knows they were wrong. So basically some views are that you dont give a ****?

DLM;4186184

Agreed this country is in recession because we have helped too many … Agreed this country is in recession because we have helped too many countries.We help everyone, I'm surprised we haven't sunk with the amount of refugees living over here :x



yeah exactly dlm, get them refugees back to their own country, get our country in decent state, and then we can MAYBE think about helping others when we are able to help ourselves

wolf359;4186198

the other times where the DEC have campaigned for man-made disasters like … the other times where the DEC have campaigned for man-made disasters like darfur there was a clear good guy/ bad guy situation. in this instance there isn't.



Very good point.

highguyuk;4186178

That maybe. But Iraq was a man made issue caused by American and British … That maybe. But Iraq was a man made issue caused by American and British Troops.This is a man made issue, caused by another foreign country. I don't see why we have to be involved. This country has enough problems! Homeless, Drug Abuse, Underage Pregnancies, Increase Knife Crime...the list goes on and on and on.





the DEC is a umbrella organisation for all the major charities and has for the past 40 years been airing appeals on the british broadcasting corporation. it is a charity appeal, the ills of this country are self inflicted anyway.

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dont air it ... rather waste my money on something more relevent to this country... like a fair proportion of oldfolks living in poverty and worrying about paying their heating bills

scotland88;4186221

its on itv what the heck difference does it make, jst press three on your … its on itv what the heck difference does it make, jst press three on your tv remote or 103 on sky and watch it their !



Well that's kind of the irony really... would you have even known that if the BBC had gone ahead and aired the appeal without question? I'm becoming more and more convinced it's a clever marketing stunt.

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dog_cop;4186246

dont air it ... rather waste my money on something more relevent to this … dont air it ... rather waste my money on something more relevent to this country... like a fair proportion of oldfolks living in poverty and worrying about paying their heating bills



So they a "waste"?

dotcomslashnet;4186142

Personally I think it is a big mistake the BBC is making... their … Personally I think it is a big mistake the BBC is making... their impartiality is compromised more by their action to refuse to air than it would have been had they agreed to air. Rather than appearing to be somehow supporting the actions of Hamas, they are instead appearing to be very gingerly avoiding stepping on the toes of the Israel. It is clear that in this conflict, the humanitarian plight of the Palestinians vastly out scales whatever humanitarian issues affect Israeli citizens (something that should also not be ignored).



Excellent post and exactly how I see it. Rep for a thoughtful, nuanced response. :thumbsup:

Naeem786;4186230

How is it if they aired it show support for Hamas? They are asking for … How is it if they aired it show support for Hamas? They are asking for help for the innocent civilians killed by the Israeli army which everyone knows they were wrong. So basically some views are that you dont give a ****?



why do you try and twist everything people say, opinions were asked for and that is what are being given, just cos you dont agree with what other people are saying doesnt make you correct, its good that you stand up for what you believe in, but the way you do it is that of a five your old, IM RIGHT YOUR WRONG and then call them names....

grow up a little, help yourself before worrying about helping others

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scotland88;4186234

yeah exactly dlm, get them refugees back to their own country, get out … yeah exactly dlm, get them refugees back to their own country, get out country in decent state, and then we can MAYBE think about helping others when we are able to help ourselves



I am sick to death of queueing for everything.

At our local hospital you have to wait hour's to see a doctor.

It's a joke this country, it has well and truely gone to the dogs.

I too think they are right, why should the BRITISH Broadcasting Corporation just show support for one side, in a conflict that has nothing to do with Britain? If they want to raise money for Gaza, then they should also be raising money for Israel. The fighting isn't just one sided.

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Naeem786;4186282

So they a "waste"?


yup.. its about time we looked at home and the issues that need attention,

wolf359;4186198

personally i think the BBC have got it spot on. they're right that people … personally i think the BBC have got it spot on. they're right that people in the middle east who watch the BBC would get the message that the BBC are supporting the hamas side. they have to remain impartial as a public broadcaster should. the other times where the DEC have campaigned for man-made disasters like darfur there was a clear good guy/ bad guy situation. in this instance there isn't.




it wasn't Hamas who breached the ceasefire, its been confirmed by various media outlets including CNN.
scotland88;4186221

its on itv what the heck difference does it make, jst press three on your … its on itv what the heck difference does it make, jst press three on your tv remote or 103 on sky and watch it their !




it isnt a movie premiere but a charity appeal to raise awareness. it won't be seen by those viewers on the BBC will it ?

scotland88;4186221

its on itv what the heck difference does it make, jst press three on your … its on itv what the heck difference does it make, jst press three on your tv remote or 103 on sky and watch it their !



]:whistling::whistling::p:whistling:

Naeem786;4186230

How is it if they aired it show support for Hamas? They are asking for … How is it if they aired it show support for Hamas? They are asking for help for the innocent civilians killed by the Israeli army which everyone knows they were wrong. So basically some views are that you dont give a ****?



because the people in egypt, syria, saudi etc would think that as the BBC is appealing for aid for gaza then they must feel that Israel are in the wrong. the BBC have a legal duty to remain impartial. so they cannot be seen to favour one side or the other.
and what about the innocent Israeli civilians being killed by Hamas rockets? there's fault on both sides in that conflict. especially as Hamas are a lawfully elected govt and not just a terrorist organisation anymore.

I pay my TV license to keep garbage like this and other advertising off the beeb, people are aware of the crisis and the publicity surrounding the refusal of the BBC to show it will remind people that "choose" to donate to do so. I would rather donate my hard earned cash to something closer to home like help for heroes.

dog_cop;4186246

dont air it ... rather waste my money on something more relevent to this … dont air it ... rather waste my money on something more relevent to this country... like a fair proportion of oldfolks living in poverty and worrying about paying their heating bills


+1
dotcomslashnet;4186265

Well that's kind of the irony really... would you have even known that if … Well that's kind of the irony really... would you have even known that if the BBC had gone ahead and aired the appeal without question? I'm becoming more and more convinced it's a clever marketing stunt.


i dont watch to much tv tbh so no i doubt i would have but even if i did i wouldnt care cos im more worried about my own contry and how it works and when we are gonna get help to get us back in line than others
DLM;4186289

I am sick to death of queueing for everything.At our local hospital you … I am sick to death of queueing for everything.At our local hospital you have to wait hour's to see a doctor.It's a joke this country, it has well and truely gone to the dogs.



+1
well said!

dog_cop;4186246

dont air it ... rather waste my money on something more relevent to this … dont air it ... rather waste my money on something more relevent to this country... like a fair proportion of oldfolks living in poverty and worrying about paying their heating bills



Whether the appeal should be aired is a different question to whether you should donate. It's an individual choice what charities you give to. All charities should have the right to raise awareness about their cause, and in times of humanitarian disaster, that should include public service broadcasts.

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scotland88;4186287

why do you try and twist everything people say, opinions were asked for … why do you try and twist everything people say, opinions were asked for and that is what are being given, just cos you dont agree with what other people are saying doesnt make you correct, its good that you stand up for what you believe in, but the way you do it is that of a five your old, IM RIGHT YOUR WRONG and then call them names....grow up a little, help yourself before worrying about helping others



I dont twist anyones words just clear up what you say!! :thumbsup: Mate I am more than happy with my life and I am very very grateful of the position I am in ATM and I very genorously donate to charity!!

peodude;4186298

I too think they are right, why should the BRITISH Broadcasting … I too think they are right, why should the BRITISH Broadcasting Corporation just show support for one side, in a conflict that has nothing to do with Britain? If they want to raise money for Gaza, then they should also be raising money for Israel. The fighting isn't just one sided.





britain condoned the theft of Palestine. this is a 'CHARITY APPEAL'. it is to raise awareness and donations are made at ones own will. this has nothing to do with any problems within the UK.

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Who's helping Great Britain in our hour of need.

Answer: No-one.

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