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On the traders to avoid list, it says whether they are on a permanent ban.

Banned

stop whinging:giggle: :giggle:

Back to topic, have you checked the updated list here

hotukdeals.com/for…658

It has been updated today, somesay how long ban is for, but not when from;-)

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sassie

stop whinging:giggle: :giggle:



You talkin' to me ? :whistling:

Back to topic, have you checked the updated list … Back to topic, have you checked the updated list herehttp://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34658It has been updated today, somesay how long ban is for, but not when from



Yes of course I already checked the new pretty blue writing and they aren't on there. :roll:

Banned

hottoshop

Yes of course I already checked the new pretty blue writing and they … Yes of course I already checked the new pretty blue writing and they aren't on there. :roll:


i just so knew you where gonna say that :giggle:

I'm guessing they weren't banned b/c of trading and thus aren't on the list?

[SIZE=2][COLOR=black]1 month ban for contacting members to deal by pm (from 29th Oct)[/COLOR][/SIZE]
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[SIZE=2]my god if this was enforced the list would be at least 2 pages lol[/SIZE]

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Admin

I'm guessing they weren't banned b/c of trading and thus aren't on the … I'm guessing they weren't banned b/c of trading and thus aren't on the list?



Dunno why they were banned Admin !
This is why I ask whether there could be some sort of distinction ? It's a bit hazy as that list has included people banned for other reasons than trading.

I'm reluctant (if indeed it's possible) to leave good feedback for a member if they have been banned for trading offences.

I'll leave it in your hands

hottoshop

I'm reluctant (if indeed it's possible) to leave good feedback for a … I'm reluctant (if indeed it's possible) to leave good feedback for a member if they have been banned for trading offences.



Well if you've had a good experience then you should leave good feedback, it's upto people with bad experiences to leave bad feedback.

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Well I had a good experience but since then HUKD have banned him. I don't know whether it's temporary, permanent, trading or unrelated to trading.

I personally wouldn't be happy to leave feedback for the community under those circumstances so I won't.

My initial question was whether it would be possible to distinguish between temporary and permanent ban under the users name but I guess that's a no.

Many thanks

Banned

hottoshop

Well I had a good experience but since then HUKD have banned him. I don't … Well I had a good experience but since then HUKD have banned him. I don't know whether it's temporary, permanent, trading or unrelated to trading. I personally wouldn't be happy to leave feedback for the community under those circumstances so I won't.My initial question was whether it would be possible to distinguish between temporary and permanent ban under the users name but I guess that's a no.Many thanks


hottoshop, think its a bit weird why you wouldnt leave feedback for someone who you have had a good experience with, feedback is left from your dealing with the sale, not anyones elses and nothing to do what else happens elsewhere:?

Banned

ooops sorry have edited:oops: :oops:

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Sassie, think about it.

Trader does some good deals, gets good feedback.
Trader goes bad, people get ripped off on the strength of the good feedback.

It happens all the time. I'm not saying this is the case in my situation but I am uncomfortable leaving feedback for someone when since I last traded with them they have been banned and I have no knowledge what it's for, whether it's permanent or indeed if they will be returning.

I'm not suggesting I am entitled to that information, I was looking for a happy medium, perhaps I was wrong ?

Banned

i know exactly what your saying, but feedback is feedback, anyone could do as you have said, if he isnt on the banned list of traders then it is nothing to do with him trading

I agree with Sassie. Feedback is based on your experience only, else it's a pointless tool and may as well be removed.

IF people were to follow the guidelines properly in the first place they wouldn't get ripped off anyway.

hottoshop

Trader does some good deals, gets good feedback.Trader goes bad, people … Trader does some good deals, gets good feedback.Trader goes bad, people get ripped off on the strength of the good feedback.



So this means no one should give feedback in this case.

People have a myriad of tools at their disposal when dealing, feedback from an anonymous person should be low down on the list.

Caveat emptor(Or something else Latin:? )

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Syzable

I agree with Sassie. Feedback is based on your experience only, else it's … I agree with Sassie. Feedback is based on your experience only, else it's a pointless tool and may as well be removed.IF people were to follow the guidelines properly in the first place they wouldn't get ripped off anyway.



Well I wholeheartedly agree with the last sentence, not so sure about the first one though.

Feedback can also be used as an early warning tool. In this instance the member came up as banned in the time between everything going ok and me leaving feedback so to me that's an alarm bell. (In fact I had already left a type of feedback on the thread when I noticed the banned tag)

The banned list on the FS/FT forum has never been exclusively for Traders anyway so I wasn't entirely sure wether my trader should or should not have been on there.

Anyway i don't want to make a mountain out of a molehill, that wasn't the intention, more trying to look out for others in the community.

Ummmmmmmm, I understand what you are saying Tony and why you are saying it. I must agree with sassie though on this. Feedback needs to be left on that transaction alone.
You can look at the previous posts of your trader, that may give you an idea why they have been banned. (Soz, knowing you, you've already done that.)

But you have no grounds to leave him negative feedback.
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[SIZE=2]The feedback tool is there purely for your own transaction. Nothing more, nothing less.[/SIZE]

I think the banned traders list is naff. What is the point of putting names of permanently banned members? They can't even post so how the hell are they going to trade?

hottoshop

The banned list on the FS/FT forum has never been exclusively for Traders … The banned list on the FS/FT forum has never been exclusively for Traders anyway so I wasn't entirely sure wether my trader should or should not have been on there.



That list is specifically for people who have caused issues in the for sale forum, not in other forums.

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Syzable

But you have no grounds to leave him negative feedback.[SIZE=2][/SIZE] … But you have no grounds to leave him negative feedback.[SIZE=2][/SIZE] [SIZE=2]The feedback tool is there purely for your own transaction. Nothing more, nothing less.[/SIZE]



Quite right, I would not have dreamt of leaving negative feedback, just no feedback.

dinosteveus

I think the banned traders list is naff. What is the point of putting … I think the banned traders list is naff. What is the point of putting names of permanently banned members? They can't even post so how the hell are they going to trade?



They can.......two of the people on there who are banned for multiple names are still able too. :thinking:

Plus jase with his multiple accounts isn't really permanantly banned as his other 'two' accounts are still active. :roll:

Banned

but he wasnt banned for trading maybe he told admin to do one, maybe he was naughty, naughty to another member, maybe he posted a rudey picture, none of the above have anything to do with trading

Syzable

They can.......two of the people on there who are banned for multiple … They can.......two of the people on there who are banned for multiple names are still able too. :thinking: Plus jase with his multiple accounts isn't really permanantly banned as his other 'two' accounts are still active. :roll:


Names like clip, Alex, mattl etc.:?

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emmajk42

That list is specifically for people who have caused issues in the for … That list is specifically for people who have caused issues in the for sale forum, not in other forums.




******** Banned for "multi user names across site"


???????????

hottoshop

Quite right, I would not have dreamt of leaving negative feedback, just … Quite right, I would not have dreamt of leaving negative feedback, just no feedback.



My mistake, the way i read it was as you using it to warn off others i presumed that you would be leaving a neg to do that. :thumbsup:

dinosteveus

Names like clip, Alex, mattl etc.:?



Oops, i was looking at king1gazza etc. :oops:

But the jase one still applies. :-D

hottoshop

******** Banned for "multi user names across site"???????????


Multiple user names to promote thier own sales.... ?? PLUS one was a mimic of another member which is a breach of the forum code of conduct...

I got banned once for spamming the sales forums as i was tryign to sell a wii and psp

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emmajk42

Multiple user names to promote thier own sales.... ?? PLUS one was a … Multiple user names to promote thier own sales.... ?? PLUS one was a mimic of another member which is a breach of the forum code of conduct...



Fair enough but I could never have realised that was the case and I'm sure names have appeared on that list that had no connection with the FS/FT forum.

Anyway can we take it as Gospel then that if a member has banned under their names and they do NOT appear on that list then there are NO trading issues ? Always assuming of course that at some point they return which brings me back to my original question

hottoshop

Fair enough but I could never have realised that was the case and I'm … Fair enough but I could never have realised that was the case and I'm sure names have appeared on that list that had no connection with the FS/FT forum.Anyway can we take it as Gospel then that if a member has banned under their names and they do NOT appear on that list then there are NO trading issues ? Always assuming of course that at some point they return which brings me back to my original question


To your first point, I believe names only appear there if there is a definite issue to do with the FS forum - Rayman can confirm this later, he's not around at the mo. If you are particularly concerned about your trade with a particular member, please PM a mod.

I dont think you can call yourself a true HUKD member unless you have been temp banned... :evil:

gary_rip

I dont think you can call yourself a true HUKD member unless you have … I dont think you can call yourself a true HUKD member unless you have been temp banned... :evil:


Errrrrrrrr, not yet, but I'm expecting a ban soon.:roll:
I'm too blunt and it ain't going down too well. :-(

Forgot to say, Ray added a bit of text to the "traders to avoid" list... with a bit more explanation.

dinosteveus

Errrrrrrrr, not yet, but I'm expecting a ban soon.:roll: I'm too blunt … Errrrrrrrr, not yet, but I'm expecting a ban soon.:roll: I'm too blunt and it ain't going down too well. :-(



I must admit ive been there and its not nice!

Admin

gary_rip

I dont think you can call yourself a true HUKD member unless you have … I dont think you can call yourself a true HUKD member unless you have been temp banned... :evil:




:cry: I've not been banned :cry:

juliet_bravo

:cry: I've not been banned :cry:



...YET!!!

juliet_bravo

:cry: I've not been banned :cry:




me neither :-D

although im sure some do hope....:giggle:

you said it!

I have :oops:
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