31 Comments

Original Poster

I really cant understand where Sean is coming from, ok maybe if its a small place like one shop in the high street with no chain stores

but come on ....Tesco !! I dont need to promote at all

Should be in Misc saxo

Original Poster

i got told from Admin to put it in the comments Edi :thumbsup:

Admin

Can we take this discussion to another thread in Comments but not in a … Can we take this discussion to another thread in Comments but not in a deals thread.

saxo_appeal

i got told from Admin to put it in the comments Edi



OK .. NP

In my opinion, and many other peoples opinion, you are helping a lot of people on HUKD by posting these deals. You put a lot of effort in to all of the help you give to people and I know that I am not the only one who appreciates it. There will always be someone wanting to pick a fight, but he is in the minority.

Keep up the good work!

I think Sean has over-reacted and Saxo's deal posts have been a great help to HDUKers.
Yeah he made a mistake with the telly but it's going to be a looooonnnnnnnggggg time before people let him forget that one and most people now think it was funny and he was just being a momentary plonker (but in the nicest possible way :thumbsup:).
As for rep points that is insignificant when you consider the circle of HDUKers who rep one another for their spam threads......
I'd hate to miss out on a good deal because Saxo had to go through a mod cause it was a Tesco deal he'd seen.

This is extracting the urine. How the hell can this be self promoting, what a load of carp.
I don't see anybody whinging at that Asda 'insider' who keeps posting deals for them, WHY NOT???
Community spirit, yea right.

I have to laugh at your posts sometimes dinosteveus...not sure what kind of community spirit is in that post!! Presume you mean well though...

My thoughts as I wrote before is that the issues with self-promo are when people post things where they can benefit directly. This doesn't necessarily have to do with the size of company - we've had what I consider spam/self-promo from other companies like Tesco where we've sent them warnings on self-promo and threatening to block all deals for them. Generally those cases are where someone inside the company is benefiting directly from posting on here, things like product buyers for example can be incentivised on margins and volume which gives them an incentive to post on here.

So in this case as I do not see anyway that saxo benefits I do not consider it self-promo and it is actually very useful to the community to have an "insider" that can share tips and info that outsiders may not know.

If the point came where it was shown that saxo was spamming Tesco **** or benefiting from his posts then the self-promo rules would apply.

I think it's a pretty common sense distinction...

Admin

I have to laugh at your posts sometimes dinosteveus...not sure what kind … I have to laugh at your posts sometimes dinosteveus...not sure what kind of community spirit is in that post!! Presume you mean well though...



It's out of order, this guy is trying his best and he gets slatted for his troubles. I am a bit shocked at Lee's treatment, he's a long standing member and his heart is in the right place, give him a break. The Members that 'dissed him should be ashamed of themselves.
I know he cocked up big time on that TV post, but nobody lost any money and it was a genuine mistake.

Could you imagine if you coudn't post for where people here worked.......Hot UK Trade & Misc???

I'd say that out of all the members here, quite a few must work for Tesco, Asda, Sainsbury, Woolies, Smiths etc.

I think Sean went way OTT. So if we apply his logic we are back to Hot UK What????

I have to laugh at this.

I dont think that this is a big deal. Lee made a mistake -so what? Get over it people! We all do it!

The amount of misprices, expired deals, expired vouchers etc etc that are posted and you pick up on this one? lmao! How many times have people been dissapointed by a code that doesnt work or any of the above. Lees post was one in thousands...

If anything I think we should all thank the guy for saving quite a few of us not only money, but time and effort too! I never rep a deal until I have the goods, so really rep shouldnt come into it. As for heat, we all know that some things that are measly can be voted hot, as can some good deals be voted cold, just because they came from a particular store.

I always make a point of checking out the deal before I go out just in case. Yes this site is a deal site, but your telling me every deal posted on here is guaranteed? Of course not!

It could have been worse, it could have been a misprice, they take your money, then wait ages to refund you even though they cancelled the order.

AllI have to say is a big thanks to Lee - keep posting mate, you've saved me a fortune!:thumbsup:

Banned

i dont think its a problem unless lots of deals are posted that just aren't hot

hothothot

i dont think its a problem unless lots of deals are posted that just … i dont think its a problem unless lots of deals are posted that just aren't hot



That happens daily, lol.

Banned

Syzable

That happens daily, lol.


im talking ulimate spamming of deals :thumbsup:

Saxo please don't let this put you off posting deals:thumbsup: some people have nothing better to do but moan :whistling: You have posted some great deals and taken time out of your day to do that for people..............Don't let a the few picky people put you off posting :-(






















Banned

Not that the situation of saxo posting Tesco deals neither affects nor bothers me, but, I believe everybody is being a bit harsh to Sean.

I haven't read the previous threads or posts, so can't comment, but I do know than Sean is one of the most helpful people that I have come across on this site.

Original Poster

This might help you JDeal

seancampbell

The point I was making is if I posted a deal for a smaller company as an … The point I was making is if I posted a deal for a smaller company as an employee it'd be taken down

- Im not promoting a small company, its already massive !!

seancampbell

Why should special rules apply for saxo & tesco

- sorry but you have me lost on that one, i dont recieve any special treatment.

seancampbell

He's posted nothing but tesco deals

- and your point is?

seancampbell

Inc mistakes reading the wrong price

- Everyone makes mistakes, dont tell me you havent ever made a mistake ?

seancampbell

That didn't generate sales for tesco with people going along to check

- are you trying to tell me no one knows about Tescos and that they couldnt simply go on the site themselves without my advert?

seancampbell

He should just use the contact us

- I would if i was going to gain anything from it...which i am not !

I think JDeal is right actually - there's no sense to dump on seancampbell anymore than dumping on saxo for the misprice. People should be able to speak their thoughts and talk about issues without worrying about having some group coming along and dumping all over them.

Why start a fight and create bad feelings over it? ...can disagree without getting hostile or unfriendly...

Original Poster

There isnt any bad vibes Admin, im just pointing out the fact
that Sean was wrong in what he was saying against me. Im really
not that bothered about it now anyway.:)

Saxo you are a top guy on this site very helpful and very enthusistic about what you have to say i'm all for that m8 :thumbsup:

Just to reignite the debate.

I read in Hot Deals that someone had a post removed for self promo on a Curry's 49p for games.

What is the difference, he wouldn't have stood to gain any more than Saxo does.

Can we have some clarity regarding this as if this is the case then although i think Saxo should be allowed to post Tesco deals, if other people can't do the same then i think it's only fair to have the same rule for all members and maybe that means banning Saxo from posting Tesco deals and all other members from posting deals from their workplace. (Sorry Saxo, but it shouldn't be one rule for one and one for another :-( )

I don't know this specific instance Syzable but as I said above the size of the merchant is not the issue, it's whether the person posting stands to benefit. We have had spam/self-promo from merchants of all sizes.

Syzable

Just to reignite the debate.I read in Hot Deals that someone had a post … Just to reignite the debate.I read in Hot Deals that someone had a post removed for self promo on a Curry's 49p for games.What is the difference, he wouldn't have stood to gain any more than Saxo does. :oCan we have some clarity regarding this as if this is the case then although i think Saxo should be allowed to post Tesco deals, if other people can't do the same then i think it's only fair to have the same rule for all members and maybe that means banning Saxo from posting Tesco deals and all other members from posting deals from their workplace. (Sorry Saxo, but it shouldn't be one rule for one and one for another :-( )


Who had a post removed? Linky?:?

Syzable, when we delete spam from big chain shops it often comes directly from their marketing team or from the company they pay to control their marketing. In these cases it's obviously not just an employee posting a "good deal" they've found, it's just some PR guys pimping the site for some free advertising.

]This was the thread i was reffering to Dino.

I guess it depends on who and in what context the person was posting in, but i couldn't understand how they'd gain from it as the original thread is still running from a couple of months ago as well.

I guess we'll never know. It's such a grey area as to whether someone's trying to help or whether it would be classed as advertising for their employers.

Well generally marketing guys are spamming and we can usually tell if this is the case...

Syzable

]This was the thread i was reffering to Dino. :)I guess it depends on who … ]This was the thread i was reffering to Dino. :)I guess it depends on who and in what context the person was posting in, but i couldn't understand how they'd gain from it as the original thread is still running from a couple of months ago as well.I guess we'll never know. It's such a grey area as to whether someone's trying to help or whether it would be classed as advertising for their employers.



Ummmm, I can't get my head around this:-
edi

An earlier post on this posted by a Curry's staff was removed for … An earlier post on this posted by a Curry's staff was removed for self-promo




Does it go something like this:-
Poster:-
Hi, I work on the tills at Curry's/Dixons and they are have a special deal coming up, TV's for £100 blah blah and it starts on Monday.
Mod:-
Naff off you spammer, we don't 'do' self promotions.
Poster:-
But, but but
Mod:-
No Buts either.

Another Poster:-
Hi, I work at the Call Centre for Tesco and I've heard about some good deals about to come up:-
Mod:-
No self promotions, bye.

Another Poster:-
Hi, I work for Asda and I know of some great deals coming up soon.
Mod:-
Yep, that's fine, post away.

Consistency, I don't think so. The only thing that's consistent is my naff attitude as I keep getting told..

Anyone can submit a deal to the mods for review through Contact Us and if it's a good deal it will be posted.

As noted it's a grey area and we do our best to be consistent in how we approach the manner; this does not equate to consistency in how it appears to you.

I don't think there's an issue here in this thread and you yourself posted that you thought this thread was "extracting the urine" so I'm not sure what you're trying to bang on about now.

If there's self-interest or something to benefit then it's self-promo. The decision on that is up to the mods based onthe information they have.

Admin

Anyone can submit a deal to the mods for review through Contact Us and if … Anyone can submit a deal to the mods for review through Contact Us and if it's a good deal it will be posted.As noted it's a grey area and we do our best to be consistent in how we approach the manner; this does not equate to consistency in how it appears to you.I don't think there's an issue here in this thread and you yourself posted that you thought this thread was "extracting the urine" so I'm not sure what you're trying to bang on about now.If there's self-interest or something to benefit then it's self-promo. The decision on that is up to the mods based onthe information they have.



Don't try and twist my post around Admin, Accusing Lee of self promotion is 'extracting the urine'.
I understand, and of course agree with your policy on self promoting, but you need definite guidelines, in plain English.
These poster that work for some of the big Companies may know about 'Hot Deals' before Joe Public, by passing that info on they are not going to gain anything, are they?
The way I see it, the 'issue' as you put it is things like this:-
edi

An earlier post on this posted by a Curry's staff was removed for … An earlier post on this posted by a Curry's staff was removed for self-promo


Can somebody explain why you let 'some' members of 'staff' post deals and not others?

dinosteveus,

Please read this thread so far. It answers your questions raised. I'm not going to repeat them for you. Further posts made without regard for prior postings or discussion and not attempting to engage in discussion will be removed. I don't have much of a problem with your posts in this thread except I'm just tired of your constant attacks on mod/admin staff and am not interested in any personal mission you are on. So if you want to post as a proper discussion I'm happy to engage in that but if you want to pick up unrelated issues like this to grind your axe I'm not interested.

Off topic posts will be deleted. PM's are for private discussion. Admin's response above states 'unrelated issues, not interested'.

Sorry, commenting is no longer available on this feedback.