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i would imagine dealing via pm without it ever being listed on the fs boards cant really be seen as trading by pm off the boards, alot of us have made friends on here and chat via pm, if one of my friends pms me and says they got something they are selling and would i be interested has got nothing to do with hukd, although i do know where your coming from

That's the line I say.

Listing an Item, then selling via PM is breaking the rules.
'Chatting to someone' via PM/Messenger, etc then a sale is done, is not against the rules.

Also, the following should be infracted:

Spamming members trying to deal by PM only
Those who deal by PM and are scammed
Those who offer by PM to a listing on FS/FT.

Personally, I think we should either get someone capable of monitoring and pre-approving threads on FS/FT, and have a traders to avoid list or get rid of the section

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bazzaric;3657646

Personally, I think we should either get someone capable of monitoring … Personally, I think we should either get someone capable of monitoring and pre-approving threads on FS/FT, and have a traders to avoid list or get rid of the section



I agree :thumbsup:

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heres one for you... sometimes in the past i have PMd a seller with the subject "replied to uour thread (threadname", and the message blank.

is that wrong?

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vibeone;3657956

heres one for you... sometimes in the past i have PMd a seller with the … heres one for you... sometimes in the past i have PMd a seller with the subject "replied to uour thread (threadname", and the message blank.is that wrong?



That isnt dealing off the boards, its when it progresses to how much and dealing

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bazzaric;3657627

That's the line I say.Listing an Item, then selling via PM is breaking … That's the line I say.Listing an Item, then selling via PM is breaking the rules.'[COLOR="Red"]Chatting to someone' via PM/Messenger, etc then a sale is done, is not against the rules[/COLOR].



That is against the rules though isn't it?

The people that have been scammed usually get PM'd, and then they only deal by PM.

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thesaint;3658115

That is against the rules though isn't it?The people that have been … That is against the rules though isn't it?The people that have been scammed usually get PM'd, and then they only deal by PM.



How can it be against the rules, if i choose to swap games, or even buy games with a friend off here

thesaint;3658115

That is against the rules though isn't it?The people that have been … That is against the rules though isn't it?The people that have been scammed usually get PM'd, and then they only deal by PM.



I think the difference i'm trying to establish is that 'Spamming someone by offering your item for sale via PM' is different to having a friend who you chat to by PM offer you something.

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sassie;3658109

That isnt dealing off the boards, its when it progresses to how much and … That isnt dealing off the boards, its when it progresses to how much and dealing



that was my understand too - but I've always been nervous about it.

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sassie;3658149

How can it be against the rules, if i choose to swap games, or even buy … How can it be against the rules, if i choose to swap games, or even buy games with a friend off here



I thought it was TBH. The rules seem to say it is(I think).


bazzaric;3658169

I think the difference i'm trying to establish is that 'Spamming someone … I think the difference i'm trying to establish is that 'Spamming someone by offering your item for sale via PM' is different to having a friend who you chat to by PM offer you something.



I understand what you are saying, but the rules do not make a distinction. I admit that I haven't read them for a few weeks.

brb....Reading the rules



Edit: It is a bit "Hazy" as to whether it is a rule break or not.

I think both are technically a rule break. But I think one should be reported and one wouldn't ever be.

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as far as im aware dealing with friends via pm is not against any forum rules, as the item has never been on the forum to begin with, so how can it be against forum rules

I think we have to realise common sense comes in somewhere along the line

supermod

I've checked up about this. The standard HUKD rules on selling items are :

(3) All sales MUST be listed and completed fully on the HUKD FS/FT forum.


(11) Offer and acceptance of trade or sale MUST be posted in relevant … (11) Offer and acceptance of trade or sale MUST be posted in relevant threads. Private Messages are for personal details only, you must NOT deal by PM .



Which is why we remove offers/requests etc from other forums. If someone approaches you requesting that they deal by PM & are reported they will receive an infraction.

But if two members who are friends chat by PM & then make personal trades etc as Sassie has said in post #2, it's then a personal matter & would be the same as chatting by email etc.

Hope that helps :thumbsup:

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bazzaric;3658603

I think both are technically a rule break. But I think one should be … I think both are technically a rule break. But I think one should be reported and one wouldn't ever be.



Only if they fell out, or if they "let slip" that they have traded.

sassie;3658622

I think we have to realise common sense comes in somewhere along the line



lol. I must resist saying that this is HUKD.

sigma;3658784

I've checked up about this. The standard HUKD rules on selling items are … I've checked up about this. The standard HUKD rules on selling items are :Which is why we remove offers/requests etc from other forums. If someone approaches you requesting that they deal by PM & are reported they will receive an infraction.But if two members who are friends chat by PM & then make personal trades etc as Sassie has said in post #2, it's then a personal matter & would be the same as chatting by email etc.Hope that helps :thumbsup:



Thanks sigma, you aren't my 6th favourite mod for nothing.

sassie;3657654

I agree :thumbsup:



me too

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sigma;3658784

But if two members who are friends chat by PM &[COLOR=red] then make … But if two members who are friends chat by PM &[COLOR=red] then make personal trades[/COLOR] etc as Sassie has said in post #2, it's then a personal matter & would be the same as chatting by email etc.





This contradicts the rules still though



(3) [COLOR=red]All sales MUST be listed[/COLOR] and completed fully on … (3) [COLOR=red]All sales MUST be listed[/COLOR] and completed fully on the HUKD FS/FT forum.





I see what you mean totally, but just saying that TECHNICALLY this is against the rules

ODB_69;3667404

I see what you mean totally, but just saying that TECHNICALLY this is … I see what you mean totally, but just saying that TECHNICALLY this is against the rules



Well yes, it is technically against the rules... but if the other person didn't report you we wouldn't know.

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duckmagicuk2;3667504

Well yes, it is technically against the rules... but if the other person … Well yes, it is technically against the rules... but if the other person didn't report you we wouldn't know.



oh yh obvo...but technically if someone did this and it was mentioned on a thread for whatever reason...IF someone reported then surely Mods would be compelled to infract as its a breach of the rules?

Just thinking hypothetically here..obvo if 2 friends want to trade etc then its up to them and undoubtedly this will happen but just showing thats its not quite crystal in the rules

(Btw Ducky..ordered the Pixon :thumbsup:)

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If odb offers me a rudey dvd via pm, and it has never been put onto the fs boards how can it be aginst forum rules, private messaging is exactly that, the same as an email, for my own personal use, or are you saying it is now down to hukd what i am allwed to do via pm with friends

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I'd like to be PMd regarding the rudey dvd please :oops:
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