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I tend to use 'nonsense' as the topic for general stuff in feedback but agree it does sort of seem wrong - as if it devalues the comment by it being 'nonsense'.

Rep is a feature in the vBulletin forum software so not something we can do anything about when something like this arises.

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jah128;1883850

I tend to use 'nonsense' as the topic for general stuff in feedback but … I tend to use 'nonsense' as the topic for general stuff in feedback but agree it does sort of seem wrong - as if it devalues the comment by it being 'nonsense'.

Lol, seems quite apt for mine
But thanks for the comments, i'll rep you lol for what it's worth

No worries Duck, more feedback/comment than a criticism of.
Thanks

I may be misunderstanding what you're meaning here but I would expect rep to be removed if the post itself is removed - rep is always attached to a post so if that's missing then the rep can't exist either.

John

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Yes John, what you have said and intepreted what i said is correct

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does the post count go down when a post has been removed too? or is that a different entity?

The post count does go down as it's normally calculated on the number of posts you currently have on the forum. I say normally because the admin can override this value which is why you occasionally see some users on other forums with two billion posts.

John

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Johnmcl7;1885090

The post count does go down as it's normally calculated on the number of … The post count does go down as it's normally calculated on the number of posts you currently have on the forum. I say normally because the admin can override this value which is why you occasionally see some users on other forums with two billion posts.John



are you sure, i never noticed my post count go down in the early days on here, also when someone posts and then deletes the thread still remains on the page it where it was after the bumped post (if you get what i mean)

If a deal is spammed, everyone's post count stays the same. However, if individual posts are removed from within a particular thread, then the post count goes down.

sassie;1885108

are you sure, i never noticed my post count go down in the early days on … are you sure, i never noticed my post count go down in the early days on here, also when someone posts and then deletes the thread still remains on the page it where it was after the bumped post (if you get what i mean)



Absolutely - you can test it yourself, add a new post and you'll see your postcount goes up by one. Then delete the post and the count will go back down again.

If the thread is expired, locked, spammed or moved to the moderator area then the postcounts of anyone involved will not go down as the post does still exist. However if the thread is deleted entirely from the database then all the corresponding postcounts will go down.

John

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oh yes so it does, thanks john and emma:thumbsup:

Johnmcl7;1885125

Absolutely - you can test it yourself, add a new post and you'll see your … Absolutely - you can test it yourself, add a new post and you'll see your postcount goes up by one. Then delete the post and the count will go back down again.



The odd thing is, the count for the number of posts in the thread stays the same. :?

i.e. This is post 13, yet the post count for the tread says 14.

I'm not sure how those numbers are calculated as there are some other oddities, you can have a thread with supposedly no views yet there's already 5 comments.

John

Johnmcl7;1885262

I'm not sure how those numbers are calculated as there are some other … I'm not sure how those numbers are calculated as there are some other oddities, you can have a thread with supposedly no views yet there's already 5 comments.



LOL, yeah I noticed that one too last night. Most weird.

Johnmcl7;1885262

I'm not sure how those numbers are calculated as there are some other … I'm not sure how those numbers are calculated as there are some other oddities, you can have a thread with supposedly no views yet there's already 5 comments.John



The forum updates at a set point every hour i think.

nightswimmer;1885248

i.e. This is post 13, yet the post count for the tread says 14.



Im pretty sure the post count includes the OP?

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emasu;1885576

The forum updates at a set point every hour i think.



then why does it update one and not the other?


P.s i posted and removed a post, hence why this thread is one out

emasu;1885579

Im pretty sure the post count includes the OP?



The in thread counter does count the original post though, if you look at the second post in the thread (one after the original post) it's labelled #2 and not #1. At the time of the original post there were only 13 posts (including the original) but the forum was claiming 14 in the list view.

I've always assumed the forum software simply updates the counts at certain times (every few minutes) to save processing time rather than do it straight away.

John

sassie;1885595

then why does it update one and not the other?P.s i posted and removed a … then why does it update one and not the other?P.s i posted and removed a post, hence why this thread is one out



Not sure that's it as I added a few and removed a few to see how it would affect the number, when the thread was showing as being one out I think we had both posted one extra post and removed it by then.

John

No, the silly post-count is a problem with the HUKD-programmed software I think rather than the forum software.

If a post is deleted, then it stays in the database but is marked as hidden. This means that you can't see it. It also means that it's hidden for mods but we know it's there and can access it if we need to. The HUKD topic-list seems to disregard whether the post is hidden or not and lists it as the last post and includes it in the post count. But when you click onto the post and viewing the comments then you're looking at the forum software which doesn't show you the post.

Slightly confusing, but I hope that explains things a bit.

That possibly explains one part but now how a thread can have comments but no views?
John

Johnmcl7;1885806

That possibly explains one part but now how a thread can have comments … That possibly explains one part but now how a thread can have comments but no views?John



As someone has said above, the number of views is updated periodically. On the old forum it was instant but it contributed to the intense load which was causing the site to crash. Hence, they are stored and released every now and again (I don't know how often).
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