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I think a lot of the time people type the asterisks themselves dont they? I know I do,rather than let the swear filter kick in,if its a naughty four letter word I will actually just type****

Sloth/Mod

I thought it was avoiding the swear filter that was an offence as if you type **** and it filters it out then the filter has done it's job already and there is nothing offensive there.

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Syzable

I thought it was avoiding the swear filter that was an offence as if you … I thought it was avoiding the swear filter that was an offence as if you type **** and it filters it out then the filter has done it's job already and there is nothing offensive there.



Yep, that's it in nutshell Syzable.

Why is the "ebay" portion of the auction site's domain name filtered in a hyperlink address, but you can type it without filtering in other text?

Is "ebay" a 'naughty' word as well? Ooops. That's me banned,

BFN,

fp.

fanpages

Why is the "ebay" portion of the auction site's domain name filtered in a … Why is the "ebay" portion of the auction site's domain name filtered in a hyperlink address, but you can type it without filtering in other text?Is "ebay" a 'naughty' word as well? Ooops. That's me banned,BFN,fp.



The reason was mainly to stop people posting ebay links in things such as FS/FT posts. Whilst most regular members know that they can easily find an ebay item by looking up the item number, they are also savvy enough to know when a deal is probably dodgy - unfortunately a lot of members\visitors aren't so savvy\clued up (remember that the is always 10x the number of members browsing the sites as guest). Shortly before the ebay 'swear' was added, there were a few occasions where someone would post an ebay link in a FS or other post which people had blindly followed and purchased, which turned out to be scam links (I can't remember whether the poster had acted in good faith or was the ebay scammer themselves but that isn't really relevant).

Whilst it is a minor inconvenience, its still probably better for people in the long run to have the direct links removed...

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aScottishBloke

Yep, that's it in nutshell Syzable.


oh fair enough. I wont worry about calling people a mother **** **** anymore lol

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csiman

oh fair enough. I wont worry about calling people a mother **** **** … oh fair enough. I wont worry about calling people a mother **** **** anymore lol



Do remember that the Code of Conduct still has to be adhered to.

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aScottishBloke

Do remember that the Code of Conduct still has to be adhered to.


now I'm confused again as I cant see how calling someone a mother **** **** breaches conduct

not that I would btw
Edited by: "csiman" 21st Jan 2011

aScottishBloke

Do remember that the Code of Conduct still has to be adhered to.



The same "code of conduct" that mentions "reputation" & "infractions"?

[ hotukdeals.com/fee…673 ]

OK, that was a rhetorical question; I've raised the subject before (in at least two "Feedback" threads) that the "code of conduct" thread needs revising (as it was written 3.5 years ago)

BFN,

fp.

fanpages

Why is the "ebay" portion of the auction site's domain name filtered in a … Why is the "ebay" portion of the auction site's domain name filtered in a hyperlink address, but you can type it without filtering in other text?Is "ebay" a 'naughty' word as well? Ooops. That's me banned.



jah128

The reason was mainly to stop people posting ebay links in things such as … The reason was mainly to stop people posting ebay links in things such as FS/FT posts. Whilst most regular members know that they can easily find an ebay item by looking up the item number, they are also savvy enough to know when a deal is probably dodgy - unfortunately a lot of members\visitors aren't so savvy\clued up (remember that the is always 10x the number of members browsing the sites as guest). Shortly before the ebay 'swear' was added, there were a few occasions where someone would post an ebay link in a FS or other post which people had blindly followed and purchased, which turned out to be scam links (I can't remember whether the poster had acted in good faith or was the ebay scammer themselves but that isn't really relevant). Whilst it is a minor inconvenience, its still probably better for people in the long run to have the direct links removed...



Thanks. Odd how the filtering can remove "ebay" from links (by detecting the "retailer"), but cannot allow Amazon.co.uk product pages to function correctly:

[BUG]: Amazon.co.uk sub page hyperlink redirects back to home page

BFN,

fp.

Syzable

I thought it was avoiding the swear filter that was an offence as if you … I thought it was avoiding the swear filter that was an offence as if you type **** and it filters it out then the filter has done it's job already and there is nothing offensive there.


The swear filter avoidance ruling on here is rather silly. If I type in a swear word and its filtered out thats fine, if I type in some asterixs instead of swear word thats fine, but if I put the swear word with hypens thats avoidance and an offence.......

The way things are at the moment is that its only infractionable if you avoided the swear filter.

Surely the code of conduct should be that you don't swear and insult others with swear words?

gari189

Surely the code of conduct should be that you don't swear and insult … Surely the code of conduct should be that you don't swear and insult others with swear words?



The list of words will need to published or you'll get some smart-**** claiming that they did not know such a word was considered swearing.

BFN,

fp.

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fanpages

Why is the "ebay" portion of the auction site's domain name filtered in a … Why is the "ebay" portion of the auction site's domain name filtered in a hyperlink address, but you can type it without filtering in other text?Is "ebay" a 'naughty' word as well? Ooops. That's me banned,BFN,fp.



If only. There'd be an epic party if that happened, considering 99% of the site think you're a massive ****.

BTW, op... I let the swear filter do its work. Mods seem fine with that.
Edited by: "vibeone" 21st Jan 2011

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gari189

The swear filter avoidance ruling on here is rather silly. If I type in … The swear filter avoidance ruling on here is rather silly. If I type in a swear word and its filtered out thats fine, if I type in some asterixs instead of swear word thats fine, but if I put the swear word with hypens thats avoidance and an offence.......The way things are at the moment is that its only infractionable if you avoided the swear filter.Surely the code of conduct should be that you don't swear and insult others with swear words?


exactly hence this thread. Seems I can slate a member to bits but no worries as the swear filter keeps it clean

vibeone

If only. There'd be an epic party if that happened, considering 99% of … If only. There'd be an epic party if that happened, considering 99% of the site think you're a massive ****.BTW, op... I let the swear filter do its work. Mods seem fine with that.



99% of the site is you with multiple registration user names, though.

BFN,

fp.

see this thread

read this, op complains about "boobies" that children may see and then avoids swear filter (which children may see) (_;)

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fanpages

99% of the site is you with multiple registration user names, … 99% of the site is you with multiple registration user names, though.BFN,fp.



ok 2 things..

1) lol.... yeah something like that

2) are you really so deluded you think I'm the only user who thinks your a pathetic moronic loser? Come off it, you must be hated in real life if you act like this, so I'm sure you're used to the hatred and bullying. Water off a ducks back right?
Edited by: "vibeone" 21st Jan 2011

vibeone

ok 2 things..1) lol.... yeah something like that2) are you really so … ok 2 things..1) lol.... yeah something like that2) are you really so deluded you think I'm the only user who thinks your a pathetic moronic loser? Come off it, you must be hated in real life if you act like this, so I'm sure you're used to the hatred and bullying. Water off a ducks back right?



No, I am not deluded. I will treat you like I would any other member.

(No swear filter necessary).

BFN,

fp.

@fp

The eBay filter actually filters the phrase 'cgi . eBay' hence not picking up eBay by itself.

Josh

vibeone

ok 2 things..1) lol.... yeah something like that2) are you really so … ok 2 things..1) lol.... yeah something like that2) are you really so deluded you think I'm the only user who thinks your a pathetic moronic loser? Come off it, you must be hated in real life if you act like this, so I'm sure you're used to the hatred and bullying. Water off a ducks back right?



fp is ace.
leave him alone.

BFN,
t

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tommay

fp is ace. leave him alone.BFN,t


I must also be one of the 1%

To the OP:
Think it'd only be swearing directing at other members that could be infractionable. Don't see any reason why filtered out swearing in general would be an issue.

i.e. this would probably not be allowed:

"Vibeone stop being a ****, most of your posts seem to you acting like a **** to other people for your own amusement. Can't you just pull your head out of your own **** for once?"

Whereas this would probably be allowed:

"Bloody hell, debenham's online ordering system is **** up again. Frustrating as all hell."


Edit: just for the record i also appreciate FP's considered posts. He often makes good points, unlike the majority of people around here.
Edited by: "Eldini" 23rd Jan 2011

Eldini

To the OP:Think it'd only be swearing directing at other members that … To the OP:Think it'd only be swearing directing at other members that could be infractionable. Don't see any reason why filtered out swearing in general would be an issue.i.e. this would probably not be allowed:[i]"Vibeone stop being a ****, most of your posts seem to you acting like a **** to other people for your own amusement. Can't you just pull your head out of your own **** for once?".


Although not "welcomed" there are no punishments for this type of thing so yes it is allowed.....you can say that about as many people you like (as some members here do) and its not infractionable because there are no visible swear words.

r3tract

@fpThe eBay filter actually filters the phrase 'cgi . eBay' hence not … @fpThe eBay filter actually filters the phrase 'cgi . eBay' hence not picking up eBay by itself.Josh



Hi Josh,

I didn't realise that was the case; I thought just hyperlinks with the ebay.co.uk (e b a y).co.uk or ebay.com (e b a y).com domain name were obscured from view.

Members usually find someway around this, though.

As an aside, perhaps if addresses are evaluated/parsed before being displayed (certainly to add "query string" information for affiliate linking purposes), an intermediary web page could be used to display the pending resultant address that has been clicked but notifying the member (or any member of the public using the site) that an external link is being used & that the resultant page/site shown is not connected to HotUKDeals.com.

Something along the lines of "WARNING: You are leaving HotUKDeals.com for ...." & offering two buttons; one to proceed to the external site & another to return to the original HotUKDeals thread.

PS. Thanks to everybody with comments on other matters. I have contacted you all privately to relay my appreciation.

BFN,

fp.

Test #1 for an eBay shop link...
[ shop.ebay.co.uk/?_f…Any Item&=&_sacat=See-All-Categories ]

Test #2 for a cgi prefix...
[ http://****.co.uk/ws/…137 ]

[EDIT]:
fanpages

PS. Thanks to everybody with comments on other matters. I have contacted … PS. Thanks to everybody with comments on other matters. I have contacted you all privately to relay my appreciation.



vibeone

Sorry for the delay - I've been having sex.Anyway, nothing to add, just … Sorry for the delay - I've been having sex.Anyway, nothing to add, just wanted to also thank people for the comedy PM's I've got praising my fanpages witch hunt. Cheered me up no end on a dull monday morning in the office.



Was anybody other than you present during the act you described? No, I didn't think so.
[/EDIT]
Edited by: "fanpages" 24th Jan 2011

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fanpages

PS. Thanks to everybody with comments on other matters. I have contacted … PS. Thanks to everybody with comments on other matters. I have contacted you all privately to relay my appreciation.



Sorry for the delay - I've been having sex.

Anyway, nothing to add, just wanted to also thank people for the comedy PM's I've got praising my fanpages witch hunt. Cheered me up no end on a dull monday morning in the office.

fanpages

Was anybody other than you present during the act you described? No, I … Was anybody other than you present during the act you described? No, I didn't think so.



Oh dear oh dear. You really do have no idea what the phrase "having sex" means do you. Poor baby. Still... understandable.

It's a shame you've brought me down to your level, but maybe one day you'll grow up and get the confidence to talk to women without your mummy.

Edited by: "vibeone" 24th Jan 2011

vibeone

Sorry for the delay - I've been having sex.Anyway, nothing to add, just … Sorry for the delay - I've been having sex.Anyway, nothing to add, just wanted to also thank people for the comedy PM's I've got praising my fanpages witch hunt. Cheered me up no end on a dull monday morning in the office.



...must refrain from a "yo' momma" joke...

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r3tract

...must refrain from a "yo' momma" joke...



Ah come on. I wouldn't normally be so open, but fanpages won't know what it means anyway.

gari189

The swear filter avoidance ruling on here is rather silly. If I type in … The swear filter avoidance ruling on here is rather silly. If I type in a swear word and its filtered out thats fine, if I type in some asterixs instead of swear word thats fine, but if I put the swear word with hypens thats avoidance and an offence.......



Depends on the mod that deals with the report.

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thesaint

Depends on the mod that deals with the report.



this^^^^

i have had suspension before for typing in asterisks so there is no set rule, it depends on a number of variables most notably the time of the month.

casparwhite

this^^^^i have had suspension before for typing in asterisks so there is … this^^^^i have had suspension before for typing in asterisks so there is no set rule, it depends on a number of variables


This is what confuses me - can someone explain the difference between typing four asterixes (which you may get an infraction for) or letting the swear filter insert the asterixes if you use the "f" word?
There is no difference when you read it so there should be no difference whether its infractionable or not........
Edited by: "gari189" 25th Jan 2011

Banned

I'm confused also casparwhite, I don't believe that statement to be true. As for your comment re variables, shame on you.
Edited by: "aScottishBloke" 25th Jan 2011

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aScottishBloke

I'm confused also casparwhite, I don't believe that statement to be true. … I'm confused also casparwhite, I don't believe that statement to be true. As for your comment re variables, shame on you.



lol you were the mod that suspended me, you also put a different reason on the old profile infraction dashboard. if i remember rightly you were annoyed bout some other comment i made but within the rules you then appeared to have gone searching through my posts for some infractionable offence but all that was there was 4 asterisks in place of swear word........

of course this is my interpretation of events but i was suspended for asterisks that i typed not avoiding the swear filter, i have mentioned this before in another 1 of this types of thread

aScottishBloke

I'm confused also casparwhite, I don't believe that statement to be true. … I'm confused also casparwhite, I don't believe that statement to be true. As for your comment re variables, shame on you.



I'm not sure which statement you think may be untrue, but I can confirm that I put asterisks when typing out a line of a song that had a swearword, and was given an infraction.


Edited by: "thesaint" 25th Jan 2011

thesaint

I'm not sure which statement you think may be untrue, but I can confirm … I'm not sure which statement you think may be untrue, but I can confirm that I put asterisks when typing out a line of a song that had a swearword, and was given an infraction.



Presumably, then, those with the relevant ninja skills can see the original text as typed, & the standard members just see the obscured version with characters replaced by asterisks.

The Moderators have to be careful quoting orignal text if that is the case!

BFN,

fp.



fanpages

Presumably, then, those with the relevant ninja skills can see the … Presumably, then, those with the relevant ninja skills can see the original text as typed, & the standard members just see the obscured version with characters replaced by asterisks.The Moderators have to be careful quoting orignal text if that is the case!BFN,fp.



I'm not sure what you mean.
The original word was four asterisks.

fanpages

Presumably, then, those with the relevant ninja skills can see the … Presumably, then, those with the relevant ninja skills can see the original text as typed, & the standard members just see the obscured version with characters replaced by asterisks.The Moderators have to be careful quoting orignal text if that is the case!



thesaint

I'm not sure what you mean.The original word was four asterisks.



My comment was in relation to instances where asterisks are not typed, but for those cases when a word is detected by the filter & the letters are replaced.

That is, Moderators must be able to see the original text. Standard members just the revised text.

Otherwise, how would a Moderator know when asterisks were typed & when they were not (unless there is some indication on each comment [internally] if the filtering has taken place)?

If there is some indication filtering has taken place, then automatic reporting may occur (too).

Just trying to get back to the original question as it does not seem to have been addressed.

BFN,

fp.

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guv

Its not too difficult to understand Gari.If you want to interpret **** … Its not too difficult to understand Gari.If you want to interpret **** off as something different to play off, then who's fault is that? Of course if you want to physically type in something that actually needs to be filtered, then clear intent is there for the mods to see.Nice infractions there aSB. Have some rep. X)



so its pretty clear you havnt understood whats being discussed from your comments

in b4 some cryptic comment noone but you understands :roll:

how come swearing is ok if you use an acronym?

tommay

how come swearing is ok if you use an acronym?



I have a feeling it while be:

A) Due to the number of permutations possible you'd have to filter every word. For example if someone typed 'fo' then that would mean any word with those two letters in that order would be replaced with asterisks. For example 'for' would bexome ****r, which would make everyone's posts impossible to read.

B) As its not explicitly swearing, and the word is effectively hidden already there is no need for the asterisks.

That being said, if it is used in an offensive manner, you should still hit the report button to alert a moderator.

Josh

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tommay

how come swearing is ok if you use an acronym?


is it?

stfu
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