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Supermod

What about those who dont deal in FS/FT.
Its not doing any harm so there really isnt a reason for it to be removed.

if they mean nothing, what's the harm in them being there? I don't think they make it cluttered. it's just small bit of text under my user ID.
I think you have a good idea for adding to it though with fs/ft a points sort of thing?

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magicjay1986;3726614

What about those who dont deal in FS/FT.Its not doing any harm so there … What about those who dont deal in FS/FT.Its not doing any harm so there really isnt a reason for it to be removed.



i wouldnt be bothered but when something more worthwhile can be put there it then becomes a issue i like this site and i want it to become better but it wont if improvements are not made....

and also if you read my idea it isnt just for sale/trade its also for the deals aspect of the site which is what the sites main point is!

so you have give me no valid reason why my idea isnt good

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bellabonkers;3726633

if they mean nothing, what's the harm in them being there? I don't think … if they mean nothing, what's the harm in them being there? I don't think they make it cluttered. it's just small bit of text under my user ID.I think you have a good idea for adding to it though with fs/ft a points sort of thing?



as ive said when something more useful can replace it it then becomes a issue dont you want this site to improve?

a fs/ft points thing like on avforums would be perfect and then also another one for posting deals that are hot

Sh0rty;3726655

as ive said when something more useful can replace it it then becomes a … as ive said when something more useful can replace it it then becomes a issue dont you want this site to improve?a fs/ft points thing like on avforums would be perfect and then also another one for posting deals that are hot



i'm not familiar with other deals forums..what do they have? the only thing I can visulise it something like ebay...a %

and yes i do want this site to improve, in many ways...but thats another issue.

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bellabonkers;3726668

i'm not familiar with other deals forums..what do they have? the only … i'm not familiar with other deals forums..what do they have? the only thing I can visulise it something like ebay...a %and yes i do want this site to improve, in many ways...but thats another issue.



check on avforums.com they have a itrader system its like the feedback one here but its displayed under the name and looks alot better and its easier to access

Sh0rty;3726674

check on avforums.com they have a itrader system its like the feedback … check on avforums.com they have a itrader system its like the feedback one here but its displayed under the name and looks alot better and its easier to access



Tried to look but they apear to be unavailable. I will look in the morning. I don't know how much scope this site would have for changing and adding things. Suppose we won't know until a mod or admin comment and let us know.

Supermod

Sh0rty;3726642

i wouldnt be bothered but when something more worthwhile can be put … i wouldnt be bothered but when something more worthwhile can be put there it then becomes a issue i like this site and i want it to become better but it wont if improvements are not made....and also if you read my idea it isnt just for sale/trade its also for the deals aspect of the site which is what the sites main point is!so you have give me no valid reason why my idea isnt good



I never mentioned whether your idea was good or bad. You assumed I would.
If you are not prepared for general "feedback", dont post in that section.

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magicjay1986;3726701

I never mentioned whether your idea was good or bad. You assumed I would. … I never mentioned whether your idea was good or bad. You assumed I would. If you are not prepared for general "feedback", dont post in that section.



this site is based on deals and fs/ft

not misc

so to be honest people who dont deal in these sections should just go to a chatroom to be fair

Supermod

Sh0rty;3726709

this site is based on deals and fs/ftnot miscso to be honest people who … this site is based on deals and fs/ftnot miscso to be honest people who dont deal in these sections should just go to a chatroom to be fair



I would say 95% of my rep is from deals. I have found some great deals over the past year.
There are other issues which need addressing; Sub sections in FS/FT which is easier to view - clothing, consoles (seperate one for games and each console) etc etc.

Rep itself is not of much consequence.
Voting power is determined by deal posts mainly and then rep, in some formula known only to Admin.
Post counts - I'm not sure what they are about - they serve in my case to make me feel a bit embarrassed!!
I think that FS/T is a forum which causes quite a lot of grief and not much benefit for HUKD - out of the goodness of their hearts really; the only 'mover' for HUKD is 'deals'.

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chesso;3726879

Rep itself is not of much consequence. Voting power is determined by … Rep itself is not of much consequence. Voting power is determined by deal posts mainly and then rep, in some formula known only to Admin.Post counts - I'm not sure what they are about - they serve in my case to make me feel a bit embarrassed!! I think that FS/T is a forum which causes quite a lot of grief and not much benefit for HUKD - out of the goodness of their hearts really; the only 'mover' for HUKD is 'deals'.



fs/ft causes grief because people are stupid...notice how ive never been stung....?

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magicjay1986;3726734

I would say 95% of my rep is from deals. I have found some great deals … I would say 95% of my rep is from deals. I have found some great deals over the past year. There are other issues which need addressing; Sub sections in FS/FT which is easier to view - clothing, consoles (seperate one for games and each console) etc etc.



if thats the case with your rep then fair play mate :thumbsup: but most people that isnt the case

im guilty of not posting deals cause everyone i see is posted before i get a chance and i will not post anything i get in a email that hundreds of other people will have got aswell! :whistling:

Supermod

Sh0rty;3726887

if thats the case with your rep then fair play mate :thumbsup: but most … if thats the case with your rep then fair play mate :thumbsup: but most people that isnt the caseim guilty of not posting deals cause everyone i see is posted before i get a chance and i will not post anything i get in a email that hundreds of other people will have got aswell! :whistling:



Very true; I am the same.

Banned

terrible idea. Post count is not meaningless

The advantage of putting rep in the profile is that it's meaningless... so people who get wound up and try to game it aren't actually gaming anything I'd love to put something related to hot deals in that space but I know it's only going to encourage cliques to try and game the temp which is so important to the site.

We did put "View FS/FT Feedback" link in there. We will get it updated to the proper feedback numbers at some point.

Oh no, don't give Paul ideas at this time of year... Please.... :lol:

Regarding the feedback system, it does need a good overhaul. It's rather useless at the moment due to it's flaws. Fair enough it shows that people have traded, but not what (most of the time...)

Admin;3727524

The advantage of putting rep in the profile is that it's meaningless... … The advantage of putting rep in the profile is that it's meaningless... so people who get wound up and try to game it aren't actually gaming anything I'd love to put something related to hot deals in that space but I know it's only going to encourage cliques to try and game the temp which is so important to the site.[COLOR="Blue"][SIZE="3"]So if that's the case Admin why haven't you given consideration or taken up Sassie's splendid idea of a "Thank You" button ?Would that not serve the community better and be very easy to introduce ?[/SIZE][/COLOR]We did put "View FS/FT Feedback" link in there. We will get it updated to the proper feedback numbers at some point.

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starsparkle2311;3728484

to be fair i thought that was the idea of misc. If you don't like … to be fair i thought that was the idea of misc. If you don't like reading the stuff there stay in the deals and FS/FT section.:)


totally agree unless shorty knows of another reason why misc exists? more people use misc than the fs/ft section!

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csiman;3728573

totally agree unless shorty knows of another reason why misc exists? more … totally agree unless shorty knows of another reason why misc exists? more people use misc than the fs/ft section!



misc is as the name suggests misc but the misc here is mainly pathetic and too many idiots running about i dont mind a misc forum....its just every other forum i frequent the misc there aint nowhere near as sad

too many arguements and kids!

Sh0rty;3731484

misc is as the name suggests misc but the misc here is mainly pathetic … misc is as the name suggests misc but the misc here is mainly pathetic and too many idiots running about i dont mind a misc forum....its just every other forum i frequent the misc there aint nowhere near as sadtoo many arguements and kids!



I agree, only because i have lots of fs/ft feedback! lol :thumbsup:

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[SIZE=3]So if that's the case Admin why haven't you given consideration … [SIZE=3]So if that's the case Admin why haven't you given consideration or taken up Sassie's splendid idea of a "Thank You" button ?Would that not serve the community better and be very easy to introduce ?[/SIZE]

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It's not really that great an idea when you think about it;

It will just be abused as the rep system is the cliques will thank each other for meaningless things for example;

Congratulation posts (member 1 congratulates member 2 on reaching 5000 posts, member 2 then thanks member 1 and member 2 returns the favour)

BG1 posts a thread, another member then posts spam as a comment in the thread, 50 other members then thank him for saying it

Someone starts a "top 5 members thread" leading to a great big thank fest with everyone thanking everyone who listed them.


So on and so forth in fact the "thank you system" would just do exactly the same thing as the rep does except 1 thank you would be worth one point whereas rep points depend on the repping members score. So it would probably be less meaningful.

Also users would want it under their avatar thus promoting more abuse of the system as it would be clear for everyone to see how many thanks they have.

In short because of they way this site operates (the cliques) no system is ever going to work so we may as well leave it as it is. I'm personally not bothered at all by a users rep score or post count as 90% of the members with a high post count and / or rep score spend most of their time in one of the many game threads or chat threads, of which to me there only purpose seems to be to boost rep and post counts.

You know who a good member is as you see them participating actively on the boards and get to know them as such. Another good method is a persons FS FT feedback but the down fall with that is not everyone uses the FS FT board.

I don't think anyone was proposing another points system otherwise as you say it would be futile.

A simple thank you goes a long way and although there is nothing to stop anyone posting a thank you at the moment it's not always the case that members want to do that.

Well that was my interpretation anyway and I apologise to Sassie if I am mistaken.

Respect

Banned

Why does everything in this gad damn place have to have a count to it :roll:

at the moment rep can only be left 10 times per day, and i for one no longer leave rep for anyone as if i want to rep 11 people i cant, if i want to rep 20 people i cant, unless i wait aother day and remember which threads i need to rep in, a simple thanks button to click would be so much better, and why on earth anyone would need to see how many times i have pressed the thank you button, or how many thanks received, i really dont know, so yes a thanks button would be brill but a thanks count is not needed

The rep system is abused so a "Thanks" button would be equally abused as would anything based on post count - so just get rid of the lot. Everyone would be equal. Everyone would be trusted equally and everyone could be distrusted equally.

You may say how will new members know how much "trust" to place in the advice they are given on the workings of HDUK etc by other members but there are members on here with high rep, high post counts who I wouldn't trust one jot. If we get rid of rep and post count - in one respect it would be like real life - only those whose posts you have regularly seen and respected would become those whose advice you would trust.

Banned

how can you abuse saying thanks, why would you need a count in place

Can't you just type "thanks" in the thread?

Banned

duckmagicuk2;3745118

Can't you just type "thanks" in the thread?



i do, if hukd doesnt want any ideas why not just say that then it saves all this kind of stuff, just as easy as typin thanks dont ya think :roll:

Would that be like they use on MSE but without the info in the user
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