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I got suspended for a day telling the guy to stop

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JimBobJr

I got suspended for a day telling the guy to stop


Slight variation there JimBobJr; I suggest you contact Admin to discuss the reason why you were suspended

MrCollective, at present we are allowing deals for G2A, as long as any specific market place seller meets the minimum requirements in the same way we look at Amazon sellers or Ebay sellers.

Officially, I don't believe that there's been any change in policy since them becoming permitted, though the relevant thread from yesterday appears to have been removed. Personally, I very much hope that we'll see nothing more of them (or Kinguin, etc.) again following the incident that you're referring to from yesterday.

In lieu of yesterday's thread, relevant discussion is here, including several links for background reading: hotukdeals.com/fee…192

Illusionary

Officially, I don't believe that there's been any change in policy since … Officially, I don't believe that there's been any change in policy since them becoming permitted, though the relevant thread from yesterday appears to have been removed. Personally, I very much hope that we'll see nothing more of them (or Kinguin, etc.) again following the incident that you're referring to from yesterday.In lieu of yesterday's thread, relevant discussion is here, including several links for background reading: http://www.hotukdeals.com/feedback/digital-game-key-reseller-kinguin-should-banned-2651192


What did I miss yesterday?

Bure11

What did I miss yesterday?


As I guess that the thread that would have explained it wont be coming back (not sure why removal was needed - Andy, are you able to shed any light on this for us?) - and in addition to the above - we had somewhere in the region of 30-40 G2A 'deal' posts from an possibly hacked account. It took several hours before the mods took any action to remove these - initially, the response (from posts in the removed thread that I mentioned above) was that no action was needed, despite numerous requests for intervention.

Illusionary

As I guess that the thread that would have explained it wont be coming … As I guess that the thread that would have explained it wont be coming back (not sure why removal was needed - Andy, are you able to shed any light on this for us?) - and in addition to the above - we had somewhere in the region of 30-40 G2A 'deal' posts from an possibly hacked account. It took several hours before the mods took any action to remove these - initially, the response (from posts in the removed thread that I mentioned above) was that no action was needed, despite numerous requests for intervention.


Why were they removed if G2A are allowed? Or is that what the whole debate was about

Bure11

Why were they removed if G2A are allowed? Or is that what the whole … Why were they removed if G2A are allowed? Or is that what the whole debate was about


Well, no-one really appreciates it if nearly the entire first two pages of 'new' deals consist of sub-standard 'deals' from the same site, let alone one with a track records of selling stolen goods. Every one of them went well below -100° in a matter of minutes.

On person posted 30 deals or more from G2A, most people believe they either owned all the proxy accounts on G2A and were peddling their own wares or were hacked by someone who was. They were spreading misinformation such as "G2A has never sold stolen keys, cdkeys sells stolen content" they were just pasting deals and their descriptions, several people commented on all the threads asking them to stop the spamming because all the deals were cold, the site sells stolen goods, no one was being helped and it was evident their only intent was to upset the users of the site.
Several people commented that they reported the posts and the person for their continuous spam and obvious intent to cause disharmony, but the mods only suspended one person for a day who was afflicted by the trolling enough to respond with censored swearing in all caps as this was considered an issue but the spam was not dealt with until some hours later in the night when the spambot/troll account was banned and the posts were removed and the site was once again navigate-able.

If G2A is known to be a distributor of stolen merchandise, with numerous accounts of people just loosing their games, and not being refunded;
Why is G2A allowed on HUKD? Most people know better than to bother posting something they do find on the site as the majority of HUKD members know the risks of G2A so won't gamble their money there - when it is such a hive of illegitimate activity.

phil36

If G2A is known to be a distributor of stolen merchandise, with numerous … If G2A is known to be a distributor of stolen merchandise, with numerous accounts of people just loosing their games, and not being refunded;Why is G2A allowed on HUKD? Most people know better than to bother posting something they do find on the site as the majority of HUKD members know the risks of G2A so won't gamble their money there - when it is such a hive of illegitimate activity.


Supposedly, "following member feedback" the decision to allow them was reached - so Ia assume that there were positive comments from people finding cheap keys that, at least initially, were working for them. Legality (or the lack of it) didn't seem to be a significant factor.

Illusionary

Supposedly, "following member feedback" the decision to allow them was … Supposedly, "following member feedback" the decision to allow them was reached - so Ia assume that there were positive comments from people finding cheap keys that, at least initially, were working for them. Legality (or the lack of it) didn't seem to be a significant factor.


As I said the feedback is easy to fake, a little harder on amazon and ebay I believe but it seems to happen frequently on G2A - as that's what I am basing it on, I would guess ebay and amazon have stricter punishments.

phil36

As I said the feedback is easy to fake, a little harder on amazon and … As I said the feedback is easy to fake, a little harder on amazon and ebay I believe but it seems to happen frequently on G2A - as that's what I am basing it on, I would guess ebay and amazon have stricter punishments.


You hadn't said that in your earlier post.

But regardless, I think that our views are fairly closely aligned - my post just above was merely covering the reason given by the mod team for G2A being allowed; personally I strongly feel that it shouldn't be.

Illusionary

You hadn't said that in your earlier post. :pBut regardless, I think that … You hadn't said that in your earlier post. :pBut regardless, I think that our views are fairly closely aligned - my post just above was merely covering the reason given by the mod team for G2A being allowed; personally I strongly feel that it shouldn't be.


oh dear, I thought I had mentioned that point, I may have reworded the post and deleted that, I need to proof read twice apparently.
but yes we appear to agree that G2A is bad

phil36

If G2A is known to be a distributor of stolen merchandise, with numerous … If G2A is known to be a distributor of stolen merchandise, with numerous accounts of people just loosing their games, and not being refunded;Why is G2A allowed on HUKD? Most people know better than to bother posting something they do find on the site as the majority of HUKD members know the risks of G2A so won't gamble their money there - when it is such a hive of illegitimate activity.


G2a probably pay hukd shush money.
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