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disagree..half the misc regulars would be banned within a few months

and 99% of new FS/FT users as well as they always nause it up regualry

with a scottish bloke as a mod, be no-one left !

ADZ1478;8853404

with a scottish bloke as a mod, be no-one left !



so true

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Read the rules, the vast majority seem to be able to comply. A minor indescretion every 6 months or so would be far too harsh. I think the 30 day period is fine, however fire away with your thoughts.

its not reading the rules that is the problem, it is the interpretation and the dogmatic behaviour. for example

"Please only post in a thread if you are interested in engaging in the sale/trade listed. Anything else will be considered thread spoiling and will be deleted."
has this been updated on another page? I got to page 13 and noticed only personal views.

you dont delete them you issue points for each one. The link to threadjacking on wikipedia is down also on page 1. So we have no HUKD definition of what this is

To evidence this further, I put up dor sale a set of 6 shower jets. This was considered a multiple sale, no pm or contact, just points.

If you decide on enforcement and example instead of education, the rules need to be unambiguous

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I'd have been permanently banned 6 times. I vote no.

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ADZ1478;8853933

its not reading the rules that is the problem, it is the interpretation … its not reading the rules that is the problem, it is the interpretation and the dogmatic behaviour. for example "Please only post in a thread if you are interested in engaging in the sale/trade listed. Anything else will be considered thread spoiling and will be deleted."has this been updated on another page? I got to page 13 and noticed only personal views.you dont delete them you issue points for each one. The link to threadjacking on wikipedia is down also on page 1. So we have no HUKD definition of what this isTo evidence this further, I put up dor sale a set of 6 shower jets. This was considered a multiple sale, no pm or contact, just points. If you decide on enforcement and example instead of education, the rules need to be unambiguous



At least try and put across a point that's factually correct. The ]thread you refer to was closed for breaching the bulk selling rule. No points were added to your account, just a friendly reminder and thread closure.

As for the most recent infractions, stop spoiling threads which involve member(s) selling underwear. Nothing ambiguous about the rule you breached on multiple occasions there. Subjective interpretation of the rules on your behalf.

vibeone;8853951

I'd have been permanently banned 6 times. I vote no.



cool story bro:thumbsup:

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matt3454;8854472

cool story bro:thumbsup:



Only works when you're not a really boring member brah.

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when you get these infractions is it an automated suspension dependant on infractions, or do you manually suspend? i am guessing its the latter

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sassie;8854689

when you get these infractions is it an automated suspension dependant on … when you get these infractions is it an automated suspension dependant on infractions, or do you manually suspend? i am guessing its the latter



Issuing infractions will result in an automatic suspension where appropriate as it's automated with history taken into account.

The manual element is deciding which rule has been breached.

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aScottishBloke;8854979

Issuing infractions will result in an automatic suspension where … Issuing infractions will result in an automatic suspension where appropriate as it's automated with history taken into account.The manual element is deciding which rule has been breached.



oh so the suspension is automated, surprised at that, maybe its time to extend the 30 days keeps, to maybe 3 months, then hopefully most of the jerks would never be around

disagree as would mean if applied retrospectively loads of people would become banned. If not, then just means that the longer you are a member the higher chance you have of being banned due to minor mistakes thus infractions say 2 points every 3 months you would end up banned in a year and a half.

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sassie;8855031

oh so the suspension is automated, surprised at that, maybe its time to … oh so the suspension is automated, surprised at that, maybe its time to extend the 30 days keeps, to maybe 3 months, then hopefully most of the jerks would never be around



The increase from 10 days to 30 has worked remarkably well so far, with the odd exception. Extending this much further might snare a few members who've just had little more than a short term breakdown ?

aScottishBloke;8855422

The increase from 10 days to 30 has worked remarkably well so far, with … The increase from 10 days to 30 has worked remarkably well so far, with the odd exception. Extending this much further might snare a few members who've just had little more than a short term breakdown ?



Not really, you would have to go out of your way to break the rules 6 times in a short period of time (3 months). Anyone who manages to rack up 6 2-point penalties in a three month period is clearly going out of their way to break the rules, and the two-week break they had after 5 breaches would give them plenty of time to think about what that might be...

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sassie;8855031

oh so the suspension is automated, surprised at that, maybe its time to … oh so the suspension is automated, surprised at that, maybe its time to extend the 30 days keeps, to maybe 3 months, then hopefully most of the jerks would never be around



^ she means me (again)

inb4 40k posts sassie. oh dear. The big 40 (000) eh!

aScottishBloke;8855422

Extending this much further might snare a few members who've just had … Extending this much further might snare a few members who've just had little more than a short term breakdown ?



:whistling:

vibeone;8854613

Only works when you're not a really boring member brah.



That'll be me then:?

aScottishBloke;8855422

The increase from 10 days to 30 has worked remarkably well so far, with … The increase from 10 days to 30 has worked remarkably well so far, with the odd exception. Extending this much further might snare a few members who've just had little more than a short term breakdown ?


I think Sassie's point is valid - the 30 days is doing very little to deter repeat offending. I'm sure more crop up on your radar than before.............. Three months is probably too much but 45 days might work better......

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I would be in favour of not getting rid of the 30 day expiry period but extending the amount of days more .

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I actually don't care too much about extending the 30 days. You guys thinking I, and others, would get banned more are just idiots - if you look at when I get banned and for how long, you'd see it would make very little difference.

You might also find it affects you more than it does me. Remember sassie, you like to think you are innocent but you've been suspended before. We all know it.

vibeone;8858775

I actually don't care too much about extending the 30 days. You guys … I actually don't care too much about extending the 30 days. You guys thinking I, and others, would get banned more are just idiots - if you look at when I get banned and for how long, you'd see it would make very little difference..



Actually vibe you've consistantly demonstrated you can comply with the code of conduct when you want to - so I don't think you would get suspended more often..........

So you need to accrue 12 points within 30 days to get a full ban?
Will take some doing, even for the student trolls.
(why do your expired infractions remain, they serve no purpose)

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skusey;8860103

So you need to accrue 12 points within 30 days to get a full ban?Will … So you need to accrue 12 points within 30 days to get a full ban?Will take some doing, even for the student trolls.(why do your expired infractions remain, they serve no purpose)



Most I've ever had is 8 points, but baring in mind that gets you a lengthy ban, its almost impossible to get the full 12 points in 30 days. Well, unless you make sexy with a member of a mods immediate family.

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vibeone;8860677

Most I've ever had is 8 points, but baring in mind that gets you a … Most I've ever had is 8 points, but baring in mind that gets you a lengthy ban, its almost impossible to get the full 12 points in 30 days. Well, unless you make sexy with a member of a mods immediate family.



Rejection hurts.

However do bear in mind that these are standard infractions. Members attempting to manipulate in any way run the risk of a mod applying a manual addition to the current total to reflect the 'severity' of the rule being breached

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Am I missing something? How can you ever get a full ban (unless a mod gives you more than 2 points)?

2 points = a one day suspension
4 points = a three day suspension
6 points = a five day suspension
8 points = a two week suspension
10 points = a one month suspension
12 points = a full site ban or suspension

Day one, you get 2 points, 1 day sus.
Day 3 you get another 2 points, 3 day sus.
Day 7 you get another 2 points, 5 day sus.
Day 13 you get another 2 points, 14 day sus.
Day 28 you get another 2 points, 30 day sus.

by the time you get back after the 30 days all the previous points will be clear so how do you ever get an automatic 12 point full ban?

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colinsunderland;8861542

Am I missing something? How can you ever get a full ban (unless a mod … Am I missing something? How can you ever get a full ban (unless a mod gives you more than 2 points)?2 points = a one day suspension4 points = a three day suspension6 points = a five day suspension8 points = a two week suspension10 points = a one month suspension12 points = a full site ban or suspensionDay one, you get 2 points, 1 day sus.Day 3 you get another 2 points, 3 day sus.Day 7 you get another 2 points, 5 day sus.Day 13 you get another 2 points, 14 day sus.Day 28 you get another 2 points, 30 day sus.by the time you get back after the 30 days all the previous points will be clear so how do you ever get an automatic 12 point full ban?


Scammers and Spammers will get it applied automatically.

Several other scenarious. Creating a multi whilst suspended will gain you extra points to the main account. Several posts worthy of infraction but not acted upon immediately will also result in the total being accelerated towards the 12 point ceiling. As we don't always infract immediately at the point of post creation, it's entirely possible for a member to receive multiple infractions for the same day.

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colinsunderland;8861542

Am I missing something? How can you ever get a full ban (unless a mod … Am I missing something? How can you ever get a full ban (unless a mod gives you more than 2 points)?2 points = a one day suspension4 points = a three day suspension6 points = a five day suspension8 points = a two week suspension10 points = a one month suspension12 points = a full site ban or suspensionDay one, you get 2 points, 1 day sus.Day 3 you get another 2 points, 3 day sus.Day 7 you get another 2 points, 5 day sus.Day 13 you get another 2 points, 14 day sus.Day 28 you get another 2 points, 30 day sus.by the time you get back after the 30 days all the previous points will be clear so how do you ever get an automatic 12 point full ban?



coz you missed off this at the bottom.......

If a one or two point infraction is given at any time after all other … If a one or two point infraction is given at any time after all other infractions have expired, the sequence begins again at zero.We can if deemed necessary, issue any of the above points tally in one go.Please note that all infractions will now be active for 30 (thirty) days.

Surely the thirty-days should count from the end of the suspension anyway? That would seem to make more sense, and be fairer, to me. So after any suspension, regardless of length, you have to 'behave' for thirty days, or you will be suspended again for a longer period...

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jah128;8865727

Surely the thirty-days should count from the end of the suspension … Surely the thirty-days should count from the end of the suspension anyway? That would seem to make more sense, and be fairer, to me. So after any suspension, regardless of length, you have to 'behave' for thirty days, or you will be suspended again for a longer period...



That makes better sense on how the 30day period should work

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ADZ1478;8860898

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Reported for making a useless inane post...

My fourty p's worth....vibeone is great! :thumbsup:

lumoruk;8866156

Reported for making a useless inane post...My fourty p's worth....vibeone … Reported for making a useless inane post...My fourty p's worth....vibeone is great! :thumbsup:



I typed out a full reply, but decided against it and edited it :whistling:

jah128;8865727

Surely the thirty-days should count from the end of the suspension … Surely the thirty-days should count from the end of the suspension anyway? That would seem to make more sense, and be fairer, to me. So after any suspension, regardless of length, you have to 'behave' for thirty days, or you will be suspended again for a longer period...



I also think that this is better than the present.
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