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Hi Jammy

I'll reply by quoting what I started in the other thread:

I know I am guilty of doing this (!!!) a few times. I see a lot of deals on here, and when I post one that I believe to be very good (based on my experience as a moderator here), I would put that in the title to draw the members' attention. I'm not here to advertise for the companies, but to make sure the members spot the best deals - that is why I do this.


With the way this forum has been really growing in the last while, everyone wants to post a great deal - but they may only be new to this. This is leading to incomplete titles, one of the points you mentioned above. We are trying to help and support the members in creating better posts.

In true Questionnaire style:
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[*]misleading/lacking titles[/LIST]I Strongly Agree
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[*]marketing speak and general use of adjectives ("amazing offer!" - thank you but I will be the judge of that)[/LIST]I Strongly Agree[LIST]
[*]non-sales (we must have all realised by now that shops like Play will put a "sale" on without altering prices at all, do we really need a post every time?)[/LIST]I Agree *
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[*]overuse of exclamation marks/caps ("WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!111" - unnecessary and distracts from other posts)[/LIST]I Strongly Agree


* - Do you mean the Sale itself, or items within the Sale? - Sometimes people post a Sale and then have items in the sale that have been reduced in their Original Post, this can be useful. e.g. Thingy's (I forget his name) post about CD-WOW's Pre-Christmas Sale.
This brings up an interesting one actually. Do we need to post an individual deal about a specific item that is already linked and commented in a Sale Post? Using the same example as just now, people made posts about items that had already been mentioned in the Sale Post.

I'm with X10's run down. Misleading or incomplete titles are a big no-no and credit has to go to our good HUKD mods who are constantly fixing titles and adding information. Marketing speak should be avoided at all costs, let's try to keep level headed and straight-forward language. Non-sales I agree, the only thing is that often there is a sale and although most prices are not good there will be a few gems so it's often worth a heads up in any case. As for caps and exclamation marks I think there are some occasions where they are ok but generally let's try and avoid the eBay look I'd say for myself I would use an exclamation mark for that once a month super deal but not really more than that. Post the item and the price in the title and most people will take it from there. If you want to identify it's bargainlicious tastiness do a good price comparison and mention that in the details for the deal.

Admin

let's try and avoid the eBay look



:giggle: :giggle:

My recommendation (plaigarised from someone else's comments somewhere previously I'm sure) is to have a sticky about how to form a deal post stickied to the top of the Hot Deals Forum.
Maybe even a message and link on the "Submit New Deal" page, so people are aware of the 'good practice' they should be adhering to.
X10

Maybe the deal posting script should automatically cut all exclamation signs?

On the point of posting a seperate deal for a specific sale item already listed in a sale thread: I think this is the right thing to do [better to be seen by all than hidden from many], as not everyone can be bothered to sift through long lists and not everyone has a fast connection to do this. If they see the title header with the item and it looks a good deal, they only have to click that thread.

Another point on Sales: They do have their own category listing from the front page, so you can filter them out, or just skip past them in the forum. You don't have to read them if you believe they're not "true" sales.

Other than that, I agree "oversell" looks bad and we should leave that sad bit to the retailers, but if I think an item is a bargain, I'll put that in the title with an exclamation mark! Hehe

If any of my post titles look misleading, I would be only too pleased to know about it so I can edit it. I don't think the way I write my titles has changed in all the time I've been posting [boring I know :roll:].

As to sales, I was guilty (about 1 hour ago) to post topic regarding Sony NWA1000 MP3 player being on sale at Argos (limited availability but I found it in a couple of stores). I did search for NWA1000 beforehand and it returned no results.
So I posted it and edi removed my topic. He explained that this was already listed in Argos thread. I think he did the right thing, but the point is that it is too easy to miss a good deal because it is buried somewhere in long thread.

Yeah fully agree, some deals need to be posted alone there that good

Another example was the battlestar galactica deal at the weekend. I posted it on its own, not realising it had been mentioned in the CDWow thread (I can't read every thread!) - but it was worth a post of it's own too (IMHO)

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emmajk42

I know I am guilty of doing this (!!!) a few times. I see a lot of deals … I know I am guilty of doing this (!!!) a few times. I see a lot of deals on here, and when I post one that I believe to be very good (based on my experience as a moderator here), I would put that in the title to draw the members' attention. I'm not here to advertise for the companies, but to make sure the members spot the best deals - that is why I do this.


I do conceed that you have a special case being a mod. I think the problem with it though is that not everyone is so able to rationally judge the merits of their own posts. I think this system will fall apart as everyone competes to get their posts noticed. Perhaps there should be a mods-only thread tag for deals considered especially worthwhile by mods?

X10

* - Do you mean the Sale itself, or items within the Sale? - Sometimes … * - Do you mean the Sale itself, or items within the Sale? - Sometimes people post a Sale and then have items in the sale that have been reduced in their Original Post, this can be useful. e.g. Thingy's (I forget his name) post about CD-WOW's Pre-Christmas Sale.This brings up an interesting one actually. Do we need to post an individual deal about a specific item that is already linked and commented in a Sale Post? Using the same example as just now, people made posts about items that had already been mentioned in the Sale Post.


Admittedly this kind of thread doesn't seem to be too regular, but examples are things like some of HMVs crappy sales and Play's non-seasonal, smaller ones (like their Xbox "rainy day sale", which always seem to be their cheaper games just lumped together, no further reductions). Sorry I can't be more specific but I can't think of any off hand, it's a minor annoyance at best!

If there are certain things in the sale that are worth posting and people point them out in an otherwise crappy sale thread then that's excellent, I'm all in favour. Big sales like that CD-Wow one are also very helpful - stuff like that is what keeps me coming back to this site (BSG2 for £12, yes!).

JammyB

I do conceed that you have a special case being a mod. I think the … I do conceed that you have a special case being a mod. I think the problem with it though is that not everyone is so able to rationally judge the merits of their own posts. I think this system will fall apart as everyone competes to get their posts noticed. Perhaps there should be a mods-only thread tag for deals considered especially worthwhile by mods?

I don't think moderators should be treated any differently to other members posting. The system that's now in place appears to show mostly the very best deals on the front pages and it is due to members voting, just as it should...

I was just about to say the same Ray. We can't have different guidelines that apply to mods or members.

I'll try and tone done my exclamation marks, but I can't promise not to slip in the odd "Wow"... :-D

emmajk42

I was just about to say the same Ray. We can't have different guidelines … I was just about to say the same Ray. We can't have different guidelines that apply to mods or members.


I agree. Though I think some people feel as though they can't say anything to a MOD because there is an air of authority about them.

The other thing I'd metion is Re-Posts. There is no need for a Re-Post of a deal if it's already been posted before, a simple bump will bring it back to the top for people to notice if they missed it the first time round.

Here is a good example:
hotukdeals.com/for…823

X10

Just found this thread, after posting a message complaining too about store titles missing from threads, so i applaud the OP for this thread.

I accept the mods do a lot of work here, and i applaud them too, thx

Admin, could you not adjust the posting of the "new topic" to provide a simple pop-up (reminder) "have you added a store title?" or the like?
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