All Avios Discounts, Offers and Sale - September 2019
They can be great value for money, depending on how many you have. I used 31,500 (worth about £350) to upgrade from J to F on a flight to KUL. The cash equivalent would have been about £1,500.
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Are Avios points actually worth it? I was looking into getting a BA Amex but it just seems like the points are only good on short haul trips? Does anyone have any recent calculations or experiences on this?
i use the companion ticket with the amex and this is a nice booster to get us up to 1st class for next years trip, it wont work for everyone but if needing a booster to use FC or CW then it is useful
Yes but works out better for BC and FC .. not cattle class
As mentioned above there are 5% of flights where it makes sense like summer holidays, xmas period, business class etc. Some value flexibility, some may use it to buy one way journey home if they missed their flight - there are good uses of it, but most people I know that don't spend too much time reading about it would end up buying that flight to New York :) and thats why BA is keen on selling them cheaper
In the USA they give the things away like candy with credit cards - we only have a benefit when using things like a 2-4-1 amex voucher which has to start from the UK, or as previously said, the reward saver for European flights...
Isn’t this something unethical to do ? Surely Avios points are earned the hard way. Why should customers be paying a higher fare when paying using Avios points? What’s the point of accumulating Avios points then?
2 for 1 companion voucher though... @Evilsatan @Regprentice
Whenever I have looked into spending them in the past I have reached a similar conclusion, I was always able to find my own flights which were cheaper or only very slightly more expensive and were often more convenient so I never transferred my AMEX, TCB or Tesco points into airmiles.
I took out a credit card which paid a bonus in avois. I had enough for my wife and I to travel to stpetersburg and back which was the plan til we had kids. I spent another 5 years trying to spend them (they were air miles, then avios) but despite many attempts it was impossible to book any kind of direct flight for 4 people in advance. In the end I used them on car hire. The image of air miles is drinking champagne on a free flight, the reality is like trying to be that bloke who took 24 trains to get from London to York because it as a fiver cheaper than a direct ticket. Waste of time imho, but a lot of people will tell you they are worthwhile if you want to book at the last minute on multiple change flights for 1 person at a time. Do a bit of homework on the links pasted above before getting these if you aren't familiar with them.
only 6.5% on MasterCard and I am a plus member.
Sadly benefits with all these things have become less and less over the years. Not long ago wife and I used to go with IHG (Intercontinental, Crowne Plaze, Indigo, Holiday Inn hotels). Points to accrue were about 3x what we currently get depending on how you accrue them, and using points went about twice as far, for instance, we stayed in their IC in Paris for equivalent of about £80 for 2 days in points. Today it's no where near that. As £$E says, go to flytalk or headforpoints and you'll get an idea what to do with Avios - I'm also in a similar situation and don't really know what to do with my points and hate flying BA or Iberia which doesn't help lol.
You can get that by upgrading the fee free BA Blue Amex card at 10k spend
anyone got a screenshot of this offer ?
No, because on the Gold card once you convert then from the card to the BA Executive Club they don't get converted back to your Amex...
Don't you to have at least one AMEX card to keep the Avios points live? As I thought that the Avios point would expire if you don't have at least one amex card?
Hit the target, covert to Avios then cancel ... And repeat 6 months later.
Having just returned from Colombia , Ecuador and Galapagos I can say Galapagos were amazing. LATAM flights all worked out perfectly and for some reason ended up with extra legroom seats on some of our Avois redeemed flights. With the recent Avoid change for partners such as LATAM will be interesting to see how it impacts on these flights.
Ah I see I thought you meant Wingo as like you say VivaAir don't offer the Bogota to Quito route any more (annoyed) I can get flights with Avios via LATAM domestically for less than £4 with Avios - this is on Bogota to Cartagena, Medellin to Bogota and lots of other routes I've just tested... Worth knowing too (y) (y)
Actually Wingo is the second LCC in Colombia. :) Its Vivaair actually (formerly VivaColombia) that I was talking about before as they are even cheaper than Wingo. They can fly you around for a pittance like Cartagena to Bogota £17 in their latest promo. Sadly they stopped their Bogota to Quito route :( as less competition drives up prices. Im sure you are aware but if anybody does not know this is an invaluable website and my go to when travelling wether it be Asia or Caribbean etc www.flightconnections.com
@jinkssick it's Wingo now, the Ryanair of Colombia. We found fares from Bogota return to Quito for around $224 USD with bag. We however would need to go from elsewhere in Colombia to Bogota and GYE to Quito for the Wingo flight, due to our itinerary in Colombia. I can use Avios to connect up or the other option is a £300pp flight Medellin to Quito and GYE to Bogota, more than our flight to Colombia from Birmingham. The Wingo option is looking more appealing ...... And time saving than the bus....
Check out VIvacolombia (theyve changed name recently) LCC from Colombia to Ecuador can be had for 99usd minus bag fees. Via Pasto, Ipiales. A bus is do-able and a lot of people do the route but do not do it overnight. Get to this wonder too. Looks like out of Game of Thrones. And by the way your travelling you put me to shame rachelandgromit! Btw the way yes using avis for Internal japan flights, australia internal flights, the afomentioned hawaii to/from lax. the fifth destination flights within caribbean and AA USA internal are some other avios gems.
Received mine. Nice one OP. Cheers
Anyone got the extra points yet?
No, not yet, but last time I did this it took over 3 weeks for the bonus points to appear.
Anyone received their bonus points yet?
Thanks ayeworld - I think I will sue them just to be a pain in the ass if I have enough points eg London Paris in 2018 I should have the same value in post devaluation
Not on mine either :(
Not on mine :(
Nice one :)
Thanks on my PP but not supp
No, it’s worth a lot more.
I booked Doha-London on BA in First Class at a cost of 68000 Avios. Got it for £210 (10x 9000 Avios promotion flights) + €218.43 euros tax, the current selling price for the one way fare is actually £4547.
A Lot if you know how to use them
Yes agree with you on that, obviously they have had to try and cut costs to temper the rise in the ‘no-frills’ airline but they aren’t quite at that level of standard.
British airways have gone downhill. They cram in more seats, try economy passengers like dirt and avios for flights can cost more in taxes than booking a flight elsewhere. Used to be my airline of choice, now I might put them before Ryanair but after easyjet. Customer service is not yet as bad as Tui but it's going that way - you get an answer that suggests they havent read the email. Premium economy in BA is now maybe equivalent to economy with emirates.
Yes Agree im over 50 so can agree with you that the standards have declined regarding hot meals then sandwiches and baggage but to compare them with the (poo) that is ryanair etc is just not true i could list 10 things better with BA then the bucket airlines and these are major things.
Never had this problem always off asap and security is excellent and to my front door takes about 40 mins, but as you say it's more a business oriented airport than for leisure flights and it would be annoying to me if this happens regularly for me when on business.
I’ve flown BA for the last 20 years and I can assure you they have declined in standards from how they used to be. I can remember the days of domestic flights having a hot meal, then it changed to a cold meal, then a sandwich, then a pack of pretzels and now you have to pay for a M&S sandwich. Avios is pretty useless in my eyes. When you factor in UK taxes and trying to actually find any rewards flights you’re best off just buying the flights direct. I’m off to California with Virgin at the front over the summer and I don’t think I’ll be back with BA.
Is it better to have this or the 1% cashback card? Is there a usual monetary value the avios equates to?
Get the premium one even though you have to pay annual fee, but is a lot easier to hit the target
A deal would be when this goes up to 9000 points... This is just the standard product.
5,000 bonus Avios welcome offer, if you spend £1,000 in your first three months of Card membership
This offer has been available for past few months so nothing new
We are a family with 1 child, very soon to be 4. We leave ours at grandma's and stay at the Holiday Inn when visting. You can get 2 kids in most hotel rooms if they are in a cot still. Going forward I am saving Avios and then you can book hotels and you can book room type too. We had a nice big room at an Intercontinental all booked with Avios.
Will definitely consider it later. But now a family with 2 young children, I guess is impossible to get a room for 4 people, or 4 free drinks at check-in LOL! Thanks for your recommendation anyway :)
Yes I do, IF you pay for a IHG hotel anyway at £99+ then there is no fee technically as you get a free night. Most people pick an IC hotel in London and get £250 value out of the free night. We would just be staying there because it's free (£99) so we spend it on a hotel we need during expensive time of year. Last year it was a Holiday Inn at £105. You get status with the card which gets you a pint and some nuts so that's £5 value every time you check in. We stay quite a lot of times a year at a Holiday Inn so make use of the free drink/s, sometimes you get 2 at check in. You are meant ot get other benefits like early and late check out but realistically you can just ask the hotel without status and normally get them. Also you are meant to get room upgrades but I haven't had any so far so don't count on it.
Are you using this as well? Perhaps is good for places that don’t accept Amex.... still not really a fans of pay card fees....
How about an IHG card - £99 fee but you get a free night after a year if you spend 10k so book an expensive room to make the most of it. You get Platinum status so get a free drink at check in. Spend £37.5k and get spire status, no difference really but 25k points bonus.
Dehero I was going to signpost HFP myself. 5years in and going strong!
Agree! First went first with Avios for our Honeymoon to NYC, bargain when combined with Amex companion voucher. I've since been a few times in F and have managed to not fly below CW since, that won't last forever though! If I keep flying for work the way I do though then my miles will keep racking up. Although only got 205k at the moment so not anywhere near what I had at maximum! And to reiterate, using them for WT redemptions are really bad value. Read the headforpoints.com website for tips on the best way to spend them. It will explain everything you need to know.
Bad idea to fly BA in the first place.
Don't trade them for Avios until you have a very clear plan about how you would use them (i.e Avios / cash cost of where you want to go; whether it is good value compared to a straight cash fare and using the Clubcard vouchers for other uses etc). Never use Avios on hotels and other services as the value per point offered is terrible.
As Portillos states, if you're going to fly economy, then long-haul ex-DUB on Aer Lingus is just about the only way you'll get reasonable value for your Avios as you're not getting ripped off with BA level service charges and taxes. If you're looking short haul then Reward Flight Saver fares (i.e within Europe) still offer >1p/avios value, as well as short haul overseas routes with no or low taxes (e.g internal flights in US, Japan).
FWIW I have had a few Amex cards over the years - but pay annual fees only on my Plat Cashback card and thats a much more palatable 25 quid a year - which is more than made up during the shop small promotion alone. The other paid cards I have had I keep them for a year (as usually the membership is free on the first year) and then close them down. Did that with the Gold Card - that had a membership cashback/bonus of roughly 125£ on a spend of 2k - this was just before Xmas so did all of Xmas shopping/gifts/London tube travel etc. on that to get over the line. Then followed the same with the Amex Nectar Card last year when Nectar+Amex combined were giving 40k nectar points - which translates to 200 without the double up - closed it earlier this month after using it for a year. The BA Amex card is free so that one I hold on to - and use it when there are promo offers, avios bonus etc which I load to my BA account for some free-ish flights to Europe. Hope this helps.
Do people who own an Amex card feel they actually get any value from it considering the £140 annual fee ? I'd like to hear people's opinions please
Don't add the offer and a low take up on the offer and they may change it to 10%. We all need the points!
Point taken :)
I like to use my Amex but this site is about saving money and that is a better option. I know Zeek quite well and selling unwanted gift cards is a small chunck of their business via the private chanel their core business is the resale of discounted gift cards.
You can just convert your 500 rewards points from the gold card into avios.
Will only work on BA branded Amex as those are the only cards that collect avios and not membership reward points.
Got this last month for 1000 points. cold.
I see this offer on amex gold. and i see the same offer but for 500 avios on the BA amex
Thanks! Must be targeted then. I've got 500 avios on £25 spend on BA, and 1000MR on £50 spend on gold.
You’re right, its been extended and the deal reactivated. Thanks
Why is this expired? The 500 mile offer is valid until the end of November. http://www.miles-and-more.com/online/portal/mam/us/program/news/detail?nodeid=1516836176&l=en&cid=1000390
Yeah seems weird, I used the calculator on their app and it came with that figure thought it was weird because London to Edinburgh is 400 odd miles or 800 in a return I asked Lufthansa what was wrong as when I went to book it was 7,000 miles they said they didn’t have a bloody clue(lol) But I will delete that comment but good deal nevertheless
Only 500 miles for a flight?! Are you sure about that? I think the minimum points required is 15,000... You'll earn another 500 miles if you fly Edi to London.
depends on the redemption you select, but you can get over 1pence for each one, can be as much as 2p. Depending where you buy them from, you can get them for 0.75p (0.0075) or if you use part pay as cheap as 0.55p (0.0055). I value you them just over 1pence, but it all depends on the flight taken... Example 9,000 avios from LHR to a number of european places plus 35 which is normally a 150-200 return ticket... while MAN to BLL is bookable last minute for 250 to 350 pounds or the same 9,000 avios (35pounds cash). If you were going to fly with a low cost carrier, then it's not always worth it. Info above is 50% mine and 50% from headforpoints.... If you are using your avios abroad on 5th freedom flights or partners - this is when you get great value.... Example - AMS (easy to get to with a low cost carrier) to Hong Kong 60,000 miles and less than 100 pounds return - business is 180,000 miles and 101pounds return Another example is 50,000 miles plus less than 40 pounds from Europe to Japan (return)... When you can get 20,000-30,000 for free for signing up a credit card... you can see you get great value... it's like 13pounds from the mainland states to Hawaii as well... Sorry a bit more info than what you wanted, but hope this helps...
theres no actual value but you can buy 1000 avios for £31 on their website
18000 points for London to rome is possible. Less than 1p per point on average in my experience
What is a typical value of Avios points?
Guess it only works on IE then as I use Safari
UPDATE - The error when linking your Avios account to your Bud account is still there when using Chrome, but is now fixed if you use Internet Explorer. Once you've used IE to link your Avios account you can then use Chrome to manage your Bud account.
Exactly the same conversation as mine, Avios’ help team are useless
Just finished messaging with Bud. I went through a few things with them (screenshots, URLs, etc). Apparently there is a problem at the Avios end with their api - Avios are aware of it & are hoping to have it fixed in the next few days. In the meantime Bud are arranging for my points to be credited manually.
Exactly what I got, Their phone team is useless but thisisbud on Facebook are brilliant said it should be sorted in a few days, some people have issues with it they said
Yes it was 53, but has since been rolled back to 5... Spent £60 before it was corrected so will see what it tracks as *fingers crossed*
It WAS definitely 53. It’s updated. Presumably a typo. Damn it!
5 not 53
Tried to click through from Avios store to ASOS and it corrected to 5 Avios per £1.
Don't you mean 5 Avios points, not 53?
Have a look at Headforpoints.com and learn what you can do with them... Generally flights within Europe they are not always a good deal especially if a low cost carrier goes that route. If you use your miles right they can get you a long way, from memory it's only about 15 pounds from Dallas to Hawaii for one example. Also look at flights from Dublin or Madrid if you want to fly long haul... Cuba for an example is 42,500 Avios + 147.58 € or Business class is 85,000 Avios + 167.58 € When you can get sign up bonuses of 20k+ you can make your miles go a long way! How many points do you have? PS some flights like MAN > BLL are worth it as tickets are 200+ and only 35 return with avios
;) IOnly way i collect avios is my credit card. I always find cheaper flights than ba so i dont really use tgat often and it would take years to collect those avios point to pay for a full flight
Absolutely not. Much better value using for a full flight redemption rather than 'money off' your cash booking. Better still to combine with the BA Amex 2-for-1 avios voucher in premium cabins. I spent 177k airmiles using one of these for 2 first class flights to Tokyo, return in Business next year - Cash fare now for same flight is £18,500 (redic).
(skeptical) (skeptical) What does it mean? It is given how much avois points are worth. What a silly comment
you're not using them properly then