But is the price any good?? And yeah - a pc needs a graphics card!
Hello HMRC, I'm in the business of erm, entertainment. Yes let's go with that.
Oh noooo. Business don't need 1080ti. But I want it for my business.
But is the price any good?? And yeah - a pc needs a graphics card!
Hello HMRC, I'm in the business of erm, entertainment. Yes let's go with that.
Oh noooo. Business don't need 1080ti. But I want it for my business.
im so old , i had to go to play after school, i even had to go to a phonebox to contact someone, we had bbc micro computers at my school, that we played donkey kong when teacher was out of the room (lol)
Kids are born with social media accounts nowadays and iPhone 6s as standard.
Crikey, kids are advancing fast nowadays if they can post messages like this they year they are born (lol)
2050 we will all be 32 years older I reckon
2030 we'll have this much GPU power in a mobile phone.
Seems SCAN sold out, cards are no longer availible, so have expired the deal.
It's a bundle, did the word + sign confuse you?
As posted elsewhere, this is better deal. https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-geforce-gtx-1080ti-gaming-11264mb-gddr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-34f-ms.html
NVidia have had huge stock returned by some of the large GPU manufacturers, so I think there are plenty of Pascal GPU cards to go around. Personally, I think they have hugely increased the price on the RTX 20xx series cards, so people who have been waiting for an upgrade sees the existing GTX 10xx series as a "bargain". I would agree with @bouttime2 as paying an extra £100 for a 2 years old technology is not something I would do, but everyone to their own. A quick search on HUKD shows that you can pick up 1080Ti for under £600 and other GTX cards similarly going down in price, I would definitely wait until the RTX benchmark reviews comes out on 19th Sept (which has been delayed) and decide my new PC build. Links to GPU returns: https://www.techpowerup.com/245399/nvidias-next-gen-gpu-launch-held-back-to-drain-excess-costly-built-up-inventory https://www.techspot.com/news/75196-nvidia-miscalculations-may-have-led-excess-gpu-inventory.html HUKD deals on 1080Ti: https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/msi-gtx-1080-ti-armor-11gb-oc-graphics-card-with-destiny-2-base-game-and-expansion-pass-bundle-59999-ebuyer-3039623 https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/msi-geforce-gtx-1080ti-gaming-11264mb-gddr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-59999-overclockers-3039637
That's fair enough. I know the difference between the SC SSC and FTW. I bought a GTX 970 SSC a few years back. But the difference is not £100. And this card is not currently worth over £700. But that's obviously just my opinion.
I'll wait for the reviews and see if the prices drop further (good chance they will!)
This! No & No! Can never put a price on Life.. but each day is a bit of a deal!! <3
If you pay me, then maybe.
How about 3 fiddy?
'I'm choosing the wrong person to mouth at though, I'll tell you that" what do you mean by that? At what point have I 'mouthed off' here? I disagreed with results of a specific hardware configuration, and you are acting as if I'm being rude?
Maybe it's the games you're running then, I don't know. You're choosing the wrong person to mouth off at though, I'll tell you that.
I think you are ignoring the detail where I've put 3 systems together that include this card and CPUs I've mentioned, tested them first hand, and have continuing accounts and experiences with said people. So I think we're done talking.
No I think you're failing to understand that I used to actually own this stuff so I have my own experience to go on rather than some random goon's YouTube video.
I guess you have a fundamental misunderstanding of resolution/GPU/CPU scaling then. Not much more to talk about!
I know but there are people that don't like them. I've always found them OK and way better than overclockers. I voted hot.
who have 9.3/10 on Trustpilot :/
Possibly because it is being sold by Scan.
Yep, tongue-in-cheek comment.
glad i got out of the pc market, if it was this price last year i would have picked this up lol. I saved my wallets life .. ;)
With the RTX20## being the first iteration of the 'RTX' line along with its bespoke RTR and Tensor cores, on paper it seems like something not a wise investment in the first place; you're effectively being an early adopter to new technologies. In the medium term it likely is worth waiting for the next iteration, so they can figure out the weaknesses and positives of their new setup, as well as iterating with 7nm (which AMD are already fabbing for their Zen2 chips, so it's not a pie-in-the-sky goal) and most likely with nvidia directly working against a more well-detailed framework for the nextgen consoles due in 2020. So what that means ultimately is this is a pretty sound bet if you're looking for something high end to tide you over until late 2020 when the proposed Xbox Scarlett release is, though I'd still personally wait for the RTX to actually release seeing as the GTXs outright cannot do the new RTX gubbins due to lacking the physical hardware for it. If the consensus starts to form that the GTXs are 'lower class' cards due to the missing featureset, it might knock a few quid off prices further.
You forget the sheepy fan bois
Wait for Navi Wait for 5nm Wait for 3080ti Wait for Intel gpu
I don't understand why people are voting this one lower yet the other is a pre-order, they may not even be able to fulfill those orders. People really don't seem to understand what they are voting for.
Its gaming not gaming x at overclockers.
Cold because the Gaming X is the same price.
You can’t have compared it a lot, it’s the same one they’ve used for years without a redesign - I had this on an RX 570 and it could barely keep that cool. Fitting it on a 1080 Ti is just madness. The red Gaming X cooler is a massive step-up.
Yup cooler is bad, same pcb board as gaming X but with a cooler designed for the gtx 1070 with a revised design. https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2927-msi-1080ti-armor-review-high-temps?showall=1
This is what I plan to do. I can't even imagine RT being effective or coming straight into everyday games. This stuff will take years imo. That's where second and third generation comes into the market from NVIDIA to which I'm happy to buy. This RTX first generation will extremely expensive imo.
What XD What XD On topic: 1080ti can be had £400/450 not new but but but
I have a 10bit panel. If it was a TN the issue isn't noticeable.
Ive never heard this before in nearly 22 years of pc gaming. Your graphics card isn't the one to wash out colour your display will be the issue. Get a new monitor with a different panel, have a look online for what panel best suits your needs for colour replication. If what you were saying was actually true then gpus would be quoting how accurate their true colour representation was on the front of the box and those into photo editing would be buying cards to get great colours but they don't, they buy quality displays to replicate true to life colours and cards to push the pixel count.
I would buy this, but the colours are washed out on Nvidia compared to AMD. Anyway to improve?
£250 or gtfo
Indeed. Interestingly, bidvoy ebay price tracker is showing that used 1080 Ti prices were falling before Nvidia unveiled the RTX 2080 and Ti, but now the used prices are starting to rise. That shows just how disappointing the 2080/Ti reveal was and how much the silly prices have encouraged people to buy used 1080 Tis instead.
It definitely won't be that. Have a read of the article below. https://www.extremetech.com/computing/275859-dont-buy-the-ray-traced-hype-around-nvidias-rtx-2080-family The final kicker is the price. Over £1,000 for the 2080Ti is just absurd.
Good price for what it is but literally the worst cooler out there - can barely keep an RX 570 cool so what hope do you have with this... I'd probably buy used now, this whole 'mining breaks cards' thing is a silly myth. Other than premature wear on the fans (and I've had enough brand new cards with DOA fans), it'll have been undervolted and underclocked.
I broke and bought an evga card, i need a ti for my vr rig. But its an intreaging situation with RTX. Wait and we may see Ti's either rise in cost slightly or go OOS because they are better power/cost for current gaming OR RTX will be cheaper or more powerful than we expect making the 10 card obsolete and those of us that got ti's recently will feel really silly. Still, lower 10 prices = good, RTX = good, 8 core mainstream cpus @150quid = good. Nvidea having a monopoly = bad!
Yea cause buying a house is the same (lol) if you are smart buying a house is easy if you know what to look for
Already did, I can always return it if benchmarks are bad.
Preordered before you've seen benchmarks? Don't ever buy a house
I won't be ordering until I've seen real world performance and not a tech demo of BF5 which was quite disappointing. Definitely haven't seen anything to warrant £1100 yet. If it's double performance I'll buy one.
I've already pre-ordered, what's your point?
They're definitely coming, they've even released teaser trailers for them.
Everyone expects it But they might be disappointed. Nvidia has no good reasons not to continue selling 10 series cards since they have no competition at all, aside from the mining market AMD has
Lol I think you mistook this for the 1080
I've waited this long, might as well wait for the new tech coming, these should be around 400 by now.
Yup as said above it will be voted cold because 1180 is coming in x weeks and has y and will cost z and who would pay that for a g card anyway etc etc. Heat added as it's a deal site about highlighting deals, shame folk forget that so often.
Imo the answer is because of the price, not as in its overpriced but simply because it costs £600+ pounds, its the same sort of folks who pipe up on the car leasing deals. 'ow much!, £600 for a graphics card? To play games with, COLD.!' That or the perpetual something better is coming, wait for price drops, brigade. Either way at the moment it's a good price for the best consumer card available
Why so cold? Cheapest I've seen in a long time, granted its not what it *should* be, but is there a better opting atm?
the deal is still live, for some reason its been flagged up and expired, also saying scan is banned!
Wouldn’t even be surprised. The current lineup takes on AMDs best and beats it comprehensively.
We are comparing the 980 ti to the 1080 and the 1080ti to the soon to exist 1180. I get it, you won't admit anything. Fine, let's stop.
As someone who bought a Pascal card at launch, no I'm not. They were vastly more expensive than the launch prices of the 9 series cards.
This isn't similar to any of those technologies. This is like Anti Aliasing or Super Sampling. 3d, VR, HDR, and 4k are much more gimmicky and requires investments, where Ray Tracing can just be done with almost no overhead. If you read my articles, you'd see that Ray Tracing *greatly simplifies* lightning and shadows from a developer perspective. You don't have to 'adopt' anything here, it will be done, en masse, because it's cheaper, better, faster. Anyway, pascal cost at launch, great perfect example. Thanks for proving my point. GeForce GTX 1080 May 27, 2016 $549 https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/230381-nvidia-gtx-970-980-and-980-ti-prices-crater-in-wake-of-pascals-launch You can see, before the May 27th launch, the price of the 980ti was still at $660! https://camelcamelcamel.com/MSI-GAMING-GeForce-DirectX-READY/product/B00ZPEAFXI The 1080 came out at $110 cheaper, and caused an immediate price crash on the inferior 980 ti, which is great for comparison here. So, do you see it? The price dip to $449.99 right *after* the launch? Are you going to admit that you were wrong about the prices at launch? Or is it pointless to provide this in depth details with sources?
That's the RRP, the RRP for 1080ti is only around £600 but I haven't sees it's anywhere close to that price for a very long time.
I got a 1080 Ti for £460 ex VAT from Amazon last night and am ok with that, it’ll cover me for now and given the usual price is north of £500 I think I’ll be ok when I need to sell it. 980 Ti still fetches a good price and it’s 3 years old now. You say it won’t cost a lot more but prices have been creeping up. I would not be surprised if nVidia tried to charge £999 for a top-spec Founders Edition at launch, just because. I mean people didn’t believe it could happen with mobiles but look where we are now...
Something better won't cost a lot more than the price paid for this card. And the people that buy these cards at this price point want the best of the best. And wont buy this now as they are aware that the new cards are just months away. I'm done with this thread. Have fun all. :p
You forgot to mention the corresponding price increases.
We'll see when the time comes.
There is a customize section on the ebay page it's hidden tho. I'm sure it was only around an extra £70 to upgrade it to a k and upgrade the ram ebaystores.co.uk/CCL-Computers/?systemalias=INTB0502020901000103&_fsub=2699802014&_nkw=INTB& If that link doesn't work Go to item description. Then overview It should have the customize option there but I'm on mobile it may be different on a desk top
do I have to buy it how it is or can I change the 8700 to an 8700k before purchase
Ryzen 2 didn't exist when the 8700k launched. I considered a 1700x at the time, but there would have barely been any IPC improvement over the 2600k I was upgrading from. Im very happy with my machine, but yep, if I was building today I would probably go for a 2700x instead or wait for the next gen.
super fast vast storage,32 gig of ram, I suspect a ryzen 2700x would have made a better base platform,unless you really needed intel graphics adapter. I expect ryzen 3 will kick intel so badly many will wish they never bought an already dead end 8 series board.
32GB memory, 1TB and 500GB nvme drives and buying the 8700k at launch probably didn't help too much!
The Brexit is strong in this one.
No news from nvidia of next gen, theyre delayed due to ddr6 so youre looking q4 2018 w
if it was at a reputable seller I would have gone for it even with the 1180 in June/July/Aug
When you're throwing £600 at something, most people want something a bit more reliable than Google Translate.
Have you really never heard of Google Translate?
im sure they didnt help by stripping supply of cards, and making a requirement for more cards to be produced in ever greater quantities.
So was it miners who created the global memory supply chain shortage? It’s nothing to do with factories tooling up for mobile memory instead as it’s a faster turn over market. As for mining “scum”. High end gamers have been stripping enthusiast supply for years. SLi and Crossfire helped make that a reality. If you play a game, the aim is to crack the puzzle or skill curve and gain points/wins/currency. Mining - gather equipment, build the ideal ‘armour and weapons’ setup, attack the increasing level difficulties and get the most ‘points’ you can. Love it hate it, mining is like playing a game. I’m dabbling, I cant game as much as I used to. The technical challenge and minor kidding skills is a good learning curve.
If you took your own advice and read the tech news you'd realise there are underlying reasons why we are in this situation and it's not just miners. I know that's the easy route for many, but it doesn't make it correct.
Really? How about this article about Nvidia's CEO comments regarding Ethereum Or this article on toms hardware about the same or this register article or this arstechnica article The cards at the higher end have never been cheap, but they have been grossly overpriced because miners have stripped the gaming market of its cards, inflating prices. Try reading some tech news before spouting such rubbish.
I think that's a nice easy way for people to apportion blame as to why they can't pick up cheap cards. The problem is it ignores many of the factors causing the shortage. If you were putting together an Nvidia mining rig you'd probably be better off looking at 1070ti's as the most cost effective way of doing it at the moment. Yet 1080ti's are now plentiful and trading at a discount while 1080ti's are not.
No because the price has increased. For some reason it has been 'unexpired'
Has this been expired because its cold?
I completely agree with you :)
Obviously a good price for a 1080 ti card right now, but please do keep in mind that the PCB isn't the greatest due to the size limitations they were working with - https://youtu.be/NvGffI8Jxd0 Basically it should be fine as long as you pair it with a good quality PSU, and don't expect to be able to overclock it very much. Hopefully we see prices fall further, one to watch out for could be the MSI "Armor" 1080 ti; the cooler is very inadequate, but the PCB is solid, and if you were to liquid cool it or use something like the excellent Raijintek Morpheus II cooler, then you should be golden.
Also I thought I would add... this is the lowest this card in 80 days :) the lowest it has ever been was 616.79 from Aria PC back in December: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/dHcMnQ/zotac-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-11gb-mini-video-card-zt-p10810g-10p?history_days=120
yep, mining is just solving sums, and for the sake of possibly getting something at the end of it. The only enjoyment is if you might get something, otherwise, you are just burning energy for the sake of it. gaming is actually enjoyable.
The thing is you seem to have not even the most basic understanding of what crypto and blochain is, why it's so important and why the energy use while unfortunate is very necessary when creating a tamper resistant system like bitcoin. I've not re-read all your comments, but what it sounds like you're promoting is some sort of closed market where you can only buy certain products for their strictly intended purposes. Which is frankly barking.... but...hey, let's explore it...... You're average consumer is not going to like it. They'd need to prove what they're buying the hardware for.... um.... which would be a little hard. Perhaps they should get visits to confirm after the purchase that they are only using if for gaming, that they only bought one and that they use it the prescribed number of hours per week. I don't think consumers are going to like non-free markets. But... lets try asking Nvidia and ATI if they disapprove of their hardware being used for securing crypto networks - I'm quite sure they'll not have an issue with it - they are in the business of selling hardware - not spouting morale nonsense. They sell it to gamers - for sure - but they also sell it to Universities and research labs building supercomputers - something not to dis-similiar to the research being done in crypto and blockchain. So I don't think they mind either. They are making good money. Environmentalists - well, they'll tell you to go outside and kick a real football. Yes, some will complain about the energy use, but educated ones understand the energy use is miniscule compared to that used by the global banking system. Governments - well they couldn't give a damn frankly. Infact, the only person who seems upset about this is you because you've decided that it's not fair that other people can buy things that you want and create an environment where the price of goods is affected by supply and demand and not some crazy ideas about fixed pricing and fixed usage. Do yourself a favour, read about Blockchain, Crypto and Bitcoin and leave of with the 'shoot on site' nonsense.
In fairness you are just rehashing the same argument. You care little about the resources and energy for gaming yet use that as an excuse to disagree with miners. A card is a card and there are no use is above others however much you wish to believe it. Technology eh? It'll never catch on.
Looks like you just ran out of argument. Totally glossed over the rare earth metals and resources, and just went straight to energy. I dont buy up all the cards, and cause other gamers increased cost of products, i responsibly use resources, not like dedicated crypto miners. Perhaps you should sit in the dark, and not use electricity to light your house? nah that argument is rubbish, and so is yours.
So you just waste energy for no return? Who's really wasting resources here? See it's easy to apportion blame. Waste is waste and that's where your argument falls down. Enjoy the gaming if, it's never a waste if you enjoy it. Much like others who enjoy things that you dislike.
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