Loft Deals & Offers

Does these come with a trapdoor?

Dont know if ive been unlucky or not but i ordered these on 26/05 and still havent recieved them so could be waiting a while

Tried a table with chair on top, but still had a wee jump to get into loft. This probably is a safe option

Sliding and not folding as well 😝

Around normal price I'm afraid. Toolstation is cheaper but none in stock for delivery

It's seems too small for toddlers (:I

It’s for toddlers

Check dimensions. It seems very small.

Generally quality ok however the lifting V arm system to retract the ladder very poor.

Don't mock the ladder stick. I use the garage stick (i put a floor in my garage roof and ladders) to push the boy around on his bike, go kart etc - it's fantastic (lol) (lol)

Does anyone know, if these will take the weight of me and the mother-in-law at the same time?

That's great value. I like the review on the site where the reviewer really likes the ladder stick. They don't mention anything about the ladder. Lol. (lol)

If it has a ladder that mean my mother in law can get down, i don't think so!!

I recently did this myself. Not too difficult, just a bit awkward. You don't need the Loftzone kit, you buy separately for much less. I bought the Loftlegs from Wickes (cheapest I could find at £10 for 12) and loft board from the same place. You just need to screw the loft legs onto the joists and then screw the loft boards on to the legs. Insulation can still be placed between the joists and is not squashed by the boards due to the raised height from the Loft Legs. There's a few good videos online showing how to do it. For a loft that size, you can do it in a day or so yourself

I got a quote of £900 for a small loft of 15.5m2 only.

Same I have a 36m2 loft, insulated (new build) to get loftzone installed with a cheap aluminium ladder sets me back £1900. I spoke to the guy and said I can get 36m2 loftzone plus boards and ladders for just under 1k, so 900 would be just the labour which sounds insane and they said it would take 5 hours.

They screw into the batons that the hatch is made out of.

Are these hard to fit and what does the ladder actually attach onto? Thanks

If needing to consider a loft hatch as well then you might want to check out what sunlux offer https://sunluxroofwindows.co.uk/312-wooden-loft-ladders-with-hatch

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yet another case of mods/eds having different rules to everyone else not cheapest available - therefore not a deal https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/werner-aluminium-loft-ladder-3-section-with-slip-resistant-d-rungs-5498-delivered-at-toolstation-3414255 the first thread isn't even a good deal its even the exact same photo

No handrail in screwfix

https://www.screwfix.com/p/3-section-aluminium-loft-ladder-3m/7431p Same thing? £49.99 @ Screwfix

here are all the threads showing this has been the normal price for over 12 months reported to mods and i got ignored https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/werner-aluminium-loft-ladder-3-section-5499-delivered-at-toolstation-3380258 https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/werner-aluminium-loft-ladder-3-section-5498-delivered-at-toolstation-3366651 https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/werner-aluminium-loft-ladder-3351801 https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/werner-aluminium-loft-ladder-3-section-5498-delivered-at-toolstaion-3315344 https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/werner-aluminium-loft-ladder-3-sectionall-fixings-5498-delivered-at-toolstaion-3293520 https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/werner-loft-ladder-less-than-half-price-at-toolstation-4998-2815479

how is it an "excellent deal" ?

Heat just for the heated banter. COME ON GET AT HIM! FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT!

Good shout. Have heat. Ta

Thank you @DealDroid (highfive)

Is this not the same? https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/2-section-aluminium-loft-ladder-3397634

It's a lot. Like 150kg. BUT..... Be careful. These are nothing like the ones that have handles either side. They're quite flimsy and unless you get it 100% straight, it makes some very odd noises. I'm very happy with mine as I don't use the loft a lot, but it's not a patch on a decent one. It's worth £40. And the £75 3 section one is worth £75 https://www.screwfix.com/p/3-section-aluminium-loft-ladder-3m/5028p

What's max weight it can taken

Yes it is a decent ladder. This is the normal price for it from Screwfix.

Is this really any good for that price ?

Sorry, yes you're right. Wouldn't make much difference, it's just that the joists tend to be 100mm anyway.

I thought it was 100mm between joists then 170 on top?

The two stars relate to the thermal efficiency of the product. This is loft roll 44, there is also a better, more expensive loft roll 40 product. The thermal value (R value) is 0.044 w/mk. To hit current minimum regulations for a new loft, you need a total of 270mm of this. 170mm between the joists, and then 100mm across the top.

What are the two out of five stars on its packaging? Any details on R or U values? Thanks

Great comprehensive post. Thank you

Yes. This works absolutely fine if you are just wanting some loft storage. I bought 2 packs of the stilts in your links and loft boards for less than half the price of the links at the top of this thread. Very easy to install as well if you have a cordless screwdriver.

I have the same system in my attic. It works well and allowed for much deeper layer of insulation. The missus has stored a ton of stuff up there on it, and so far we've had no problems in 7 years.

New builds are different as like you say its built to tight specs to only support a roof. The old houses that have acrington brick would probably support an extra house ontop.

Fitted the 'LoftZone StoreFloor Kit for New Build Houses (7m2)' that I purchased from Homebase in my loft last year. It has made a large storage area that is easy to walk on. The head room is obviously reduced but not so much that I cannot easily walk on the boards, it is actually easier to walk across than before due to the cross beams being easier to climb over. Also my insulation is not squashed down. It does seem expensive when you look at what you get but I am glad I fitted it.

I really like the look of this but it's quite a bit more expensive than using loft stilts from B&Q or Wickes. Also while looking at it just now. In the example pictures above the weight of 16 loft boards is carried by 20 Loftzone stilts costing 93.49. Using the recommendation of 6 stilts per board for B&Q or WIckes gives the weight carried by 45 stilts yet costing only 60.00. Also you'd have 3 spare stilts and in the case of Wickes slightly higher (30cm) stilts for more insulation or condensation gap. I have a new built finished in the last year and my insulation would most certainly take up the majority of the 27 - 27.9 of B&Q or LoftZone stilts.

On the Screwfix website, on the deal post the question on there and see if they respond. Twice the page states stowing pole included and the 3 section one also states pole included.

Did anyone else order this and find that there is no stowing pole despite the website saying it's included? Or is it just me.

Huh! Good idea! Just got to get the confidence to venture in there (lol)

Oh no! I had a wasp nest in my attic years ago...horrid! The 'exterminator' who removed it told me to hang a huge paper lantern as a decoy to stop them from returning. So far, so good.

Even better. Thanks.

I've updated my spreadsheet comparing the entry loft insulation at the 3 diy sheds. Notes 1. Despite all being made by Knauf they all are seemingly different types, earthwool, ekoroll and space loft roll. I've no idea of the differences and suspect this is something to keep the diy sheds happy and its really the same product. Please correct me if I'm wrong. 2. There are some variances in the length of the rolls, especially the 200mm from Homebase which is quite short so its best to show the cost as per metre squared, which Wickes does by default. 3. All 3 have offers at the moment and in Homebase and B&Q you have to buy multiples whereas Wickes is per roll. Summary - Price per m2 100mm Homebase £1.54 Knauf Earthwool Loft Roll - 100mm B&Q £1.99 Knauf Eko Roll Loft insulation roll, (L)7.28m (W)1.14m (T)100mm Wickes £2.17 Knauf 100mm Space Bottom Layer Loft Roll Insulation - 8.3m2 170mm Wickes £2.16 Knauf 170mm Standard Top Up Loft Roll Insulation - 6.47m2 B&Q £2.55 Knauf Eko Roll Loft insulation roll, (L)5.68m (W)1.14m (T)170mm 200mm Wickes £2.67 Knauf 200mm Super Top Up Loft Roll Insulation - 5.61m2 B&Q £3.00 Knauf Eko Roll Loft insulation roll, (L)4.83m (W)1.14m (T)200mm Homebase £3.29 Knauf Earthwool Loft Roll - 200mm Detailed Calcs -> Google Docs

14 quid - knauf said

I can't find any information that suggests that it's any different to the base layer, literally just the depth. I think the base layer is made to go between the joists which are normally about 4", and then you have the 170mm or 200mm to go at a right angle to that laid above the base layer. I laid 3 layers of 100mm while it was on offer as I didn't think they'd do offers on the other depths. 100mm - 8.3m² £12 - £1.44 per m² at 10cm depth (previously on offer) 170mm - 6.47m² £14 - £1.27 per m² at 10cm depth 200mm - 5.61m² £15 - £1.33 per m² at 10cm depth

+1

Can double the amount of 170mm Top Layer Loft Roll Insulation be used instead of a base layer, or is the composition different?

Cheers for the info, the house is 30yrs so I may get away with it. I'll do some further research doesnt sound too bad though

get up and measure the gap in your joists. in modern houses it will likely be the right gap for these ladders. Our house is 20 years old. ladder fitted without cutting joists. Hammered out the old hatch. Marked out the gap required. Cut with a plasterboard knife. very easy.I marked the corners and drilled cutting holes. cut the long length from the loft side so the joists could guide me. then did the short sides from underneath. Should be a 2 man job to fit the hatch but I was impatient and did it a wooden support to hold it in place. Im still boarding out the loft so havent tidied round the hatch yet but will just use some skirting wood type material to make it neat. Wouldnt rate it as a big job if you are relativly handy. Just daunting cutting an big hole in the ceiling.

So, how hard are these to fit? I've looked before but it just looks like a nightmare to cut a bigger hole in the ceiling and make it look tidy. Im fairly good with DIY(just finishing a full bathroom refit) but cutting through beams does worry me!

OP, is this actually a Hot Deal in that there is a price reduction?

So the one in screwfix is £99 The one closer in specification to sunlux's is £129 Sunlux has one at £80 plus £9.95 delivery unless you are in scotland or Ireland (there are also some variations to cater for different opening sizes etc) screenshots below showing rail as standard delivery and cost

Yes delivery charge....

Is the extra for the postage?

And everyone else.

Following the link shows £49.99 for me?

I got these last year when on sale. Yes they’re sturdy, i find they are quite narrow though although when i was looking i couldnt find many much wider tbh.

good point

If boarding up for living space these cheap loft panels won’t meet building regulations anyway!

If you are just boarding up loft space for storage, then probably none. If you are converting loft space into living area then it will be an issue. Sorry I have looked at this from a property developers angle and not the DIY's angle. Ignore the instructions on the box if you want, it's your choice

How is not screwing down lofts boards going to give you problems selling your house? (lol) (lol)

my mistake, usually 2ft wide (y)

Blimey. That's small. Perhaps buy one roll and try it - I reckon it'll be pretty tough though.....

Just measured the opening - 30cm X 45cm. I can fit through it, but it's a squeeze and it's very near the lowest point of the roofline, so not much height above the hatch either. :-(

Wear a mask, the fibres are deadly in your lungs. One of our workmen during house renovations had to be hospitalized as he was coughing up blood, root cause found by the builders to not have used masks and eye protection while on another site laying insulation.Yes you will be hot & sweaty and look like a plonker while working with it and get a hard time from your kids but at least you will be around long enough to see them grow up

Most rolls will compress sufficiently to enable them to be dragged through a hatch (big enough for a human to get through!) Definitely don't unroll it and pull through (whilst possible it'll be a horrific job as it'll expand massively as you unpack it and you'll have a flexible sheet effectively 1.2x6.0m!)

Might sound like a strange question, but does anyone know (roughly) what the diameter of the roll is? We've got a really small loft hatch and I reckon it'll be a close call if I can squeeze a roll through it. I guess, worst case, I could unroll it beforehand and drag it through, but that sounds like it'll just make even more mess!

Is the wooden one quieter than the metal ones? My metal one creaks a lot when climbing up or down.

I have a kind of long eye-bolt that you screw into a small discrete hole which, when you pull on it, unlocks the latch and it falls down. It's only as long as you need it to be - mine is less than seven inches and lives in a drawer. The wooden folding ladders are attached to the back of the hatch so when they fall down they are there to grab easily - another huge benefit is they don't take any usuable loft space - they only take up the footprint of the hatch where you couldn't store anything anyway. They can also be walked up in bare feet without absolutely creasing your feet like the aluminium ones do. :)

But how to you bring the door down, from a closed position, without a pole? I can't reach the ceiling.

You must reach up and unfold them, on mine anyway. I suppose it depends how tall you are and how high you're ceiling - there's no catch to release them though.

Why don't you need a pole for these wooden ones?

I had very old small hatch opening inside It is light so quiet easy but I had to cut one ceiling joint to accommodate new size.

How easy was it to fit the new hatch? Was it a similar size to the existing hatch or did you have to open it up?

I found better solution in my case, small landing and very low loft. I bought a Manthorpe Drop Down Loft Access Door from toolstation for £30 plus a 8.5Ft 2.6M Extendable Aluminium Ladders Telescopic Folding Extension Extendable Portable 9 Steps Loft Ladder Collapsible DIY Multipurpose UK Stock from dicn for £36 and I can say quality of this ladder from dicn is very good. I have seen so many YouTube reviews I was concerned about this ladder but for access the loft and around the house is super good. So total cost £67

I have previoulsy used the wickes ones and and i would not say it is cut enough to fall apart when rolling, it actually has marking for 3 different sizes on the pack which i think you use to cut while still rolled up in pack. I might tackle the roof area of bungalow today and use the b&q and see how that goes, before moving on to the dormer area which will be more of a pain. Will report back on my experience. Thanks

Unfortunately my knee isn't going to let me do it on this visit, plus I have to improve the job the handyman did on installing their spotlights first and even before that fix a hole in the roofing felt which is letting water in if the wind is blowing in the wrong direction. I was also going to choose the b&q one myself and saw those reviews. All of this type of insulation has pre cut perforations to make it easier to cut it so it fits between the joists. Whether the b&q one is worst in this respect to the others or if it's just a case of people bothering to feedback on the b&q site I just don't know. I'd probably still opt for the b&q one and just be a bit extra careful with it, taking into account the feedback.

Thanks for this. I was planning to carry out some work on my bungalow over the next few days and was deciding which of insulations types would be the best value for money - out of the three you mentioned. Which one did you end up going for? I was thinking on B&Q however a lot of the reviews report back that their roles are pre cut so they fall completly apart when laying.

Hi, Thanks Neotrix for posting this as I'm about to insulate my mum's extension over xmas if my knee holds out. However as Homebase has been closing stores over the past year then a round trip to the nearest one doesn't really make sense. So I've created a comparison with B&Q and Wickes to see what the differences are. Notes 1. Despite all being made by Knauf they all are seemingly different types, earthwool, ekoroll and space loft roll. I've no idea of the differences and suspect this is something to keep the diy sheds happy and its really the same product. Please correct me if I'm wrong. 2. There are some variances in the length of the rolls, especially the 200mm from Homebase which is quite short so its best to show the cost as per metre squared, which Wickes does by default. 3. All 3 have offers at the moment and I'm not sure when the B&Q and Wickes ones expire. Also Homebase and B&Q you have to buy multiples whereas Wickes is per roll. Summary - Price per m2 100mm Homebase £1.54 Knauf Earthwool Loft Roll - 100mm B&Q £1.99 Knauf Eko Roll Loft insulation roll, (L)7.28m (W)1.14m (T)100mm Wickes £2.17 Knauf 100mm Space Bottom Layer Loft Roll Insulation - 8.3m2 170mm B&Q £2.55 Knauf Eko Roll Loft insulation roll, (L)5.68m (W)1.14m (T)170mm Wickes £2.93 Knauf 170mm Standard Top Up Loft Roll Insulation - 6.47m2 200mm B&Q £3.00 Knauf Eko Roll Loft insulation roll, (L)4.83m (W)1.14m (T)200mm Homebase £3.29 Knauf Earthwool Loft Roll - 200mm Wickes £3.56 Knauf 200mm Super Top Up Loft Roll Insulation - 5.61m2 Detailed Calcs -> Google Docs

I got so much of this stuff from my energy supplier for free that I was selling it, did the whole loft and still had about 5 rolls left