Hey @Darek_ well done on your first deal, thanks for posting (y)
Good fans. Awful awful software it's worse than iCue
Hey @Darek_ well done on your first deal, thanks for posting (y)
Good fans. Awful awful software it's worse than iCue
As nice as it is, its too expensive.
How much did you get it for?
I have this AIO in my Corsair 280X as a top mount. I love it. It runs dead quiet and the customisation options of the display are brilliant. I definitely considered the Arctic for its reviews, but the radiator is so thick it wouldn't fit in my build at the front or top with the GPU I have.
Yes, £100 for a display and slightly worse cooling.
£79.99 Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280mm https://www.awd-it.co.uk/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-280mm-multi-compatible-all-in-one-cpu-water-cooler.html
NZXT make some very nice cases though often compromise airflow for aesthetics which for general users is probably not a bad choice because components don't run hot unless overclocking. With the H200 NZXT did make a stupid design choice seemingly only for aesthetics. They should have added an extra centimeter of clearance for the GPU to breathe above the PSU shroud. Yes it's an mitx case but this case is already so big that an extra centimeter wouldn't have been noticed and it would have dramatically reduced GPU temperatures. As Tech Jesus noted NZXT should have not bothered with ATX PSU support, they could have shrunk the PSU shroud by a lot and then it would have had a tonne of breathing room. Personally I like having ATX PSU support so I'd have rather they made the case a bit taller.
got the white version of this a few weeks back and it is excellent. So well designed, well like every time I came across a problem or made a rookie mistake they had thought about it already and had a little design feature to make things easier.
In case someone reads this and thinks this case has USB-C, it doesn't. The revised H210 has USB-C, this deal is the original H200 which is s pretty much the same but has 2 USB-A instead and screws mount the glass rather than the plastic push ball thingies.
Love it! I must remember there is always an adapter in this domain. For my secondary build, I was going to shop for MoBo with 3.2 header but if I cheap out I can still get this adapter and profit. Brilliant, thanks!
I would recommend the Silverstone FT03B for mATX or mITX builds. https://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=291 My mITX build is tucked behind my monitors. RTX 2070 is using a Kraken G12 mod with a 120mm AIO cooler.
The number of drives would be that high because you can stack drives on top and bottom of each drive afaik (I haven't done it myself but I'm pretty sure you could if you wanted to. Also two 2.5 drives would go on top the PSU bay
Looks good. I'll admit, I want this case partly because I can more easily convert it into a gaming rig further down the line.
It's all personal taste when it comes to aesthetics and it also depends on your use case, but I think there's better cases out there for cheaper. For example I've got an matx motherboard in my media centre pc so I bought a Thermaltake s100 for £40 recently to replace what I had. Highly recommended it. Plus it has tempered glass as opposed to acrylic.
Yep it's the same. Bought it the last time this deal was posted for £65
Looks good. Is that the same model or the h440?
So we can drink the coolant now?
Same here, want the 360 but that’s a wedge!
Also spirits, drinks and alcohol. This has more drinking tags than tech tags (lol)
Fingers crossed for the 360mm version to drop as far! Anyone who says the LCD option isn't worth the extra hasn't seen how unbelievably pointlessly brilliant it is in a full on build XD
where is your style man ?
Er wouldn’t a powerful magnet wipe hard drives?
Could print one for less than a quid, price includes magnets. Or as said, stick on hook....rock on with life.
Imagine the markup on these, 50p landed? Gg nzxt
GN Steve highly endorses these (cheeky)
I get that! I do it for fun too - and to make a bit, you can’t really make a living off it. I get the benchmarking thing too, I wanted to show myself how much faster the Ryzen I had was than my older machine I left the new one in the box for a week... I also like recycling and repurposing things rather than getting rid, I love using ex-lease hardware in place of complete replacement as there are so many bargains. Yes, tight margins and compromises are common nowadays. Was hard to find a Ryzen board, GPU and PSU for this latest one, especially without overpaying. The biggest problem with building is when people don’t understand what you’re doing and why your decision may seem strange but more costly than someone else’s. I was trying to argue my case for an AMD Ryzen 5 3600 over an Intel i5-9400F, lost that battle but it came out fine anyway.
I really only do it for fun. I like to make things with expensive hardware that I generally can't afford for myself. Similarly, I enjoy learning about older stuff. I have a voracious appetite for benchmarking things - it's ridiculous. The build I'm doing just now was quoted about 1 week before the customer went ahead with it - and in the meantime, many things have shot up in price/become unavailable. So my margin is as slim as can be. But I still enjoy doing it - and I also really enjoy meeting people/communicating with them to find out what they need and providing them with the best tools for the job. But yeah, I won't be giving up the day job, that's for sure!
Sorry I meanf SPEC-DELTA, I had a SPEC-03 and it was my least favourite to build in terms of quality too. I don’t do PC building any more really - there isn’t enough margin in it. It doesn’t take a lot for someone to tell me they can get parts cheaper or think the labour is free, I just do it for friends who will let me use discretion - especially where some parts are hard to get now, no point agreeing on one thing to be unable to get it. Cases are another thing out of stock. Was really had to find a 1660 Super at a reasonable price and ended up settling on that stupid Gigabyte ITX thing... but the brief was to run Fortnite at 120/144Hz. I’d like this NZXT for myself but don’t need to replace anything right now anyway.
It's the SPEC-DELTA case - best of both worlds! I've got rubber grommets than I'm going to add later. I'm the most guilty of using cheapo cases for inexpensive Fortnite machines. I've made a ton of EG MN25 (which is made by CiT and sold by those who shall not be named) and similar cases (which can be had for £17 sometimes). For budget, I really like 1st Player, routinely found at CCL. They have a good blend of price -vs- quality. I can rarely afford to make a profit on anything above that price bracket.
Is that a SPEC or DELTA case? I’ve not had much luck with those in the past - whereas the 175R, 275R and 300R, no problems at all. Have you tried jamming some rubber dampers or foam in between the PSU and chassis by the screws? I always try and convince people to use better cases but often they choose looks and price over quality - it’s annoying.
Don't know if it's just fans you're looking for but in my build I used a Master Cooler ML120R which came with an RGB controller that runs all the RGB for the AIO and my 2 MF140r and still have a controller port empty edit: actually I may not I think it only has 3 ports. It took up a USB header and runs from the software on my PC but can also just be controlled from the RGB box (and has a RGB header connection but the instructions were naff and the usb header worked fine). And I have just seen there are now MF140 halo fans, why weren't they out when I was doing my build (fierce) .
I have had all kind of fans, and I can say for RGB fans either go with something that fits and syncs with the components you already have or just buy anything that will give you some mood light. Or better yet, there are RGB fans in Amazon that can sync with MSI and Asus motherboards, 3 for about £25. It really all depends on budget and at what stage of your build you are. But again in general I wouldn't recommend these fans as they are overpriced and there are better options. Though I really recommend NZXT AIO cooler that just looks way better than any other cooler in the market in terms of RGB and has good cooling. Even though is overpriced it is really in an entire different league and has no competition RGB/screen wise.
I have for the past week been looking at cases and rgb fans and reviews and stuff and it is a toss up for quality in my opinion between this and corsair both have advantages and disadvantages. There are some cheap alternative rgb fans which can't be controlled or have a seperate hand held controller but I think they're a bit crud.
Only good if you really really like and need nzxt hue. Otherwise better get other RGB fans.
I don't order much from scan so I don't know about their shipping stuff. Noone likes the deal but its there for people. If you buy the fans seperate works out more and if you buy one fan and the controller it's more than this so I thought was good deal. Nvm! (highfive)
Yeah im actually really tempted now. I have a h100x atm but i think i want this only for the screen hmmm
Not sure why this deal is cold, I'm sure there's a pun to be had here. Heat added anyway as yes, it is an expensive aio but this looks to be the best price it can be had for, so it's a deal for me. Nice one OP!
I went with a Arctic Liquid Freezer II and haven't seen CPU go over 58c
I'm very tempted by this
Really neat design but doubt it'll outperform a Noctua/Be Quiet air-cooler, heat added for the price either way :)
they are running at 1000 so should be ok
What speed are you running them? Worth keeping in mind they peak out a fair bit higher than the likes of noctuas, if you dial them back you lose the noise for the same airflow. If you run them over 80% speed they are noisey, but that's OTT and I generally have them pegged about 70% which CFM wise is about where the Noctuas start to peak out and the cooling efficiency gains get marginal. If it's just one fan send it back, part of the reason these are so cheap is the QC is good not phenomenal, although the actualy arctic branded rather than reseller ones are usually better.
not so sure got 2 arctic setup yesterday and the noise level is annoying may have to send them back :(
That is a good price... 2x noctua nf A14s are near £34 at the moment on amazon.
Arctic fans are usually cheaper than this and I actually rate them better.
I bought a joblot of the Ebuyer EG 240 RGB AIOs for £23.50 each, the other week and installed one to test last night. Pretty much about what I expect of a £23.50 240mm AIO, tbh... I think I should pay more for one that simultaneously won't hose my CPU, mobo and GPU and provide better cooling than the stock air cooler.
Yeah, the 280 will be a bit better than the 240. 280mm AIOs usually run both 3-4 degrees cooler and a little quieter than 240mm ones. The Arctic 240 should perform around the level of competing 280mm AIOs though, given that the 280 handily beats them. It's better than it used it be, but still has issues. Gamers Nexus reviewed the X63 a couple of months ago and CAM was one of the biggest negatives.
Was 80 little while ago https://www.scan.co.uk/products/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-280-280mm-all-in-one-hydro-cpu-cooler-2x140mm-pwm-fan-aluminium-copper
CAM seems to be improved not had any issues myself.
I preordered a 240mm Arctic Liquid 2 as couldn’t find a 280mm version. I do like RGB (my whole case has it lol!) but I would prefer decent cooling. The 280 better than the 240?
NZXT cases are more and more becoming form over function. I loved my old one I had but it wasn't the coolest of cases. I now have the fractal design meshify C which is cool running, lovely to look at and ridiculously spacious considering the size.
Thank you for the advice :) (this actually made me laugh)
No, it's an aquarium for your fish.
Is this just a case or the pc? I'm new to these things so I'm not sure.
The price is good but according to gamernexus the thermals are bad mainly due to the glass front panel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTWYifGSUXs&t=1106s
I refuse to respond to a NPC.
I guess I want something more modern looking. By upto date I was referencing this old NZXT case. Not a fan of the old school chunky style with lots of plastic everywhere.
More upto date huh. Ok what exactly does that mean? What features? More glass? My case has a usb C the front panel. Fan control, lighting control. What other features are you after? Curiious as to what upto date cases have that's different.
Oof that is not my cup of tea. Thanks for your input though. I'm shopping around for a new case have an old NZXTH200i that somebody gave me but I need something a bit bigger and more upto date. Would ideally want something with RGB control and usb-c on the front as I've just upgraded to a ryzen 9.
Built a pc in this with Vega 64 . Stays reasonably cool even on a warm day under full GPU load so just going on my observations. You can always upgrade case fans later if you want more air flow.
Decent thermals?? This pretty case has bad thermals, see here:
Waiting for the h210 to drop a bit but fantastic case anyways
I am not sure if you want just the style and looks. This non Elite version is 87.35 on Amazon. It was cheaper few days ago. amazon.co.uk/dp/B07SGWLD2C/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_LciREbCCHZ47J
I can't say for sure as I don't own the case and it will obviously depend on the hardware going into it, but some reviews say it's terrible for thermals.
Hey thanks for the reply, i will do that and look into it, many thanks
Now down to £100. Bargain! https://www.scan.co.uk/products/nzxt-kraken-x72-360mm-all-in-one-cpu-hydro-cooler-with-rgb-lighting-cam-control-3x120mm-pwm-fan-for
I see this in my accouint, limit was £20, now £50 You have linked your account to the AVFORUMS free carriage offer. You will get free carriage on orders over £50.00 (excluding VAT) to uk mainland addresses only on selected carriage services. So I am almost certain I did it with Hexus forums and not Avforums, although I am part of both so not sure exactly why it says AVFroums account is linked. Aside from that, maybe get in touch with Scan live chat, they're generally busy, 20+ people but get through eventually, its pretty quick. And ask them, I dont have an option in my account, probably because I've already done it. Make sure to have sound on your computer on, you'll hear a ding when a rep is live in the chat.
Any idea how to use avforums as there is no info or page that works telling us how, its not explained here either, very confusing, cheers
was just adding (plenty of) context :p Not directed directly at you, just quoted as your comment spawned mine :)
Possibly not. I used this as a calculator... https://outervision.com/b/WWwjes And adjusted the efficiency to 80Plus Gold and it recommended an 850W PSU
I bet an fx 9590 at 5ghz and a GTX 480 pc would not consume 850w
Hmm power usage has dropped / stayed steady the last 5 years.
Yes, it would have been but I plan on upgrading his system in 3-4 years time. He’s rocking an old i5-2400 with 16GB DDR3 and a 2.5inch SSD. It’s perfectly capable for the time being (given the games he plays and the homework he needs to do) until I give him my rig and then I’ll use the NXZT PSU in whatever rig I build myself in 3-4 years time.
Wouldnt 850w be a bit too much for an Rx 580?.Wouldn't something like a TX650M be fine?
For that tho' you get less on panel USB. The cam module/software has also been updated.
Inclusion of Type C and a slightly improved design (screws for the glass panel are hidden) but doesn’t include any lighting
whats the biggest difference?
Shame you have to run CAM. God awful software.
I feel your pain there should make some sort of reversible pc cases which you can flip the glass and mono tray
That's all good and well but don't forget it has RGB lights, so it makes you better at gaming.
Thanks for that, yeah, I think I run d15 as it is, no problems and great cooling, haven't tinkered anything with my pc in a while, felt bored and wanted an excuse to get this, as it does look cool and would be a more minimal build look haha. Regardless best to not downgrade persay for looks (lol)
They won't be much better than your noctua What are you running? What voltages, clockspeeds etc? Most of the time AIOs are outperformed by a Noctua d15 noise normalised thermals. The AIO usually cools about 2C more (fairly negligible tbh) but at the cost of £s and risk. The experienced pc builders seem to all say the same, you want high end cooling, get a D15. No risk of leaks, half the price, same cooling capacity. Check this out https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nzxt_kraken_x72_review,12.html https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nzxt_kraken_x72_review,12.html D15 is only 2 degrees off in thermals from the Kraken silent mode. And the d15 is £70, that's a pretty big saving for arguably, and no water leak risk. Lots of people get leaks, and the lifespan of an AIO is limited. The lifespan of a noctua is theoretically infinite, as they send out new brackets with new gens of mbs. But by god, does that NZXT cooler look cool haha, and its damned quiet which is nice. A few dB less than the D15, but then again the d15 is silent for all intensive purposes they say.
Yeah best doing some research. I’ve had the x62, no issues. But I’m not as up to date with it all right now!
@bob_regis To answer your question: I’m not sure about your specific question, but pcpartpicker is a good website for checking compatibility of parts. You can filter through thousands of combinations. Also, I think it’s Corsair that have a compatibility section, so you say what you have (you can list a motherboard, or specific model of laptop/pc) and they list the compatible parts. Though this may only apply to compatible RAM.
Yea that’s the problem with brands when it comes to pc cases, steel is cheap and two cases from the same maker can be night and day. I love my all alu silverstone case but even they make steel ones these days, but the prices are still not cheap. Unfortunately paying more does not make it a better case, I have bought decent coolermaster cases including a decent PSU for not much more than this. So not having bought this brand before I am just wondering what makes it worth the money, is it just the fancy window stuff and aesthetics that people like to pay for(confused)
"Beautiful Craftsmanship The H200i is available in four colour combinations to match your taste, and its elegant all-steel construction is shared across all sizes in the new H-series. The tempered glass panel and signature PSU shroud showcase beautiful builds." Quality of cuts?... Not a clue, other than NZXT are a very reputable manufacturer and well-regarded
Are these steel or aluminium? What's the quality of the cuts like?
Same here, I don't think we're likely to see it any earlier than that in the current climate. My SG13 will have to do for now!
https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3571-arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-cooler-review-benchmark Arctic pwns the x72 :D
Ah sorry man my bad, on Scan.co.uk it says 1 year for some reason. That's a bit better, I'd still personally avoid a warranty shorter than 3 years on an AIO. These components fail a lot, owing the moving parts, and when they do they can take the system with them. If one company is offering a 6 year warranty (NZXT) and another a 2 year one, I think the extra four years makes the product wayy more valuable.
Arctic have a very good reputation... saying "avoid at all costs" is rather extreme! Also, the warranty is 2 years... not awesome, but better than 1 year.
1 year warranty on an AIO is asking for troulbe. Avoid Arctic at all costs.
I trust Arctic Cooling (their original brand name) for all my builds, a friend once forced me to add CM RGB Fans on his, the noise for the push of air was terrible compared to even AC's cheapest. Had a fin break on one AC14 silent Fan, I know for a fact they would have sent a replacement just on my word! I buy in 5 packs and had spares I didn't claim.
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