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Virgin Money all-round credit card: 27 months 0% interest on balance transfers, purchases and money transfers
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Found 16 h, 53 m agoFound 16 h, 53 m ago
Virgin Money has re-vamped its all-round credit card. It now offers: 27 months 0% on purchases 27 months 0% on balance transfers (2.9% BT fee) 27 months 0% on money transfers … Read more
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Master.G2 h, 56 m ago

Ideal for stoozing: placing in a high interest savings account or …Ideal for stoozing: placing in a high interest savings account or offsetting against your mortgage.


doesn't the transfer fee outweigh any benefit from doing this?
Nice.
Ideal for stoozing: placing in a high interest savings account or offsetting against your mortgage.
Richief1 h, 17 m ago

Perhaps you need to stop coming on this site


Never a truer word spoken in jest
flipper1181 h, 4 m ago

I’ve also got this card and have nearly blown it all already


Perhaps you need to stop coming on this site
Virgin 12m Full House TV, 100MBPS Broadband & ALL BT Sport HD channels, Weekend calls - £220Topcashback & £50 Account Credit or Amazon Dot, £20 install - £55pm (£660 - £250 TCB = 34.17pm)
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Full House TV 230 channels VIVID 100 fibre broadband Line rental & Talk Weekends Full BT Sport HD & ESPN channels Cashback £220.00 Bargain for BT Sport with shed … Read more
phoned them up , They are not interested in offering long term customers anything , I wanted BT sports added to my mix bundle paying £48 with no sports channels
seaniboy7 h, 6 m ago

New, (Cisco) TiVo Box are all being upgraded free for V Broadband …New, (Cisco) TiVo Box are all being upgraded free for V Broadband customers (V6 only runs over Virgin BB)

Ah thanks.
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jamiethind8 m ago

Is v6 the new or old box?


New, (Cisco) TiVo Box are all being upgraded free for V Broadband customers (V6 only runs over Virgin BB)
Is v6 the new or old box?
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Lol advertising a V6 Box with a old TiVo
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Filippo Berio Extra Virgin Olive Oil 5 litres £18.49 at Costco
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11/03/2018Expires on 11/03/2018Found 14th FebFound 14th Feb
This offer starts on Monday 19th Feb for 3 weeks. Makes the per litre price at £3.70 which is the cheapest i've seen. I've posted the link to show you the website price (today) but… Read more
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Wht is online code for oil because showing 19.99 and u need to put code in to redeem the voucher...
DonXJohnson killed this wtg
great price will be lookin hot
DonXJohnson1 h, 4 m ago

Just when you think you've read it all on this website, another idiot …Just when you think you've read it all on this website, another idiot comes along and tops the last moronic statement.Dear lord.


oh dear a living dipstick, what is moronic about my statement of excessive quatities sold by Costco?
saltygaz1 h, 12 m ago

This sums up costco for me, I still will never forget my first visit, …This sums up costco for me, I still will never forget my first visit, excess celebrated.


Just when you think you've read it all on this website, another idiot comes along and tops the last moronic statement.
Dear lord.
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Free complimentary refreshments - wifi - newspapers - magazines - watch Tv - iPad usage - free events @ Virgin Money Lounges
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Found 8th FebFound 8th Feb
Just a reminder of this freebie - if you are a Virgin money customer e.g. bank account, ISA, credit card you have access to their city centre lounges Get complimentary refresh… Read more
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london one looks like a ruddy PLANE simulator ..wot no pool table, darts board? bowling alley . Thats it mate , I'm moving to sheffield!
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I don't have Virgin bank account but if I use their products can I still get in ??
Just signed up so will try and use when I goto London next month. I'm intrigued!
AW007912 h, 4 m ago

You don't have to be a member.


And how do you do it without being a member?
20% Bonus Virgin Flying Club Miles When Converting Tesco Clubcard Vouchers
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Found 6th FebFound 6th Feb
From 1 February – 15 March 2018, you can enjoy a bonus of 20% when you convert your Tesco Clubcard vouchers into Flying Club miles. So basically, £10 worth of Tesco Clubcard vouc… Read more
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Vistrix11 h, 54 m ago

Trying to find a flight that can be paid with club miles on their website …Trying to find a flight that can be paid with club miles on their website and there doesnt seem to be many!


Depends when/where you're going!

There is plenty on routes like New York, Atlanta etc.

I've found zero business routes to Las Vegas....

Last time this promotion came on, I settled on 2 business return tickets to Cancun (we go in November!!!)... which I had to ring up at 6am on the day the flights for the return leg became available for sale to ensure I got them (apparently only 2 reward per flight there!)
Trying to find a flight that can be paid with club miles on their website and there doesnt seem to be many!
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this is a freebie how??
Happens every time but here is proof for you.
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I can't see this on the Tesco clubcard site. It's still saying 625 miles per £2.50 for me?
Virgin Champagne Balloon Flight - Any Time @ Over 100 UK Locations! @ Wowcher
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Found 5th FebFound 5th Feb
Looks like lovely gift for any occasion Virgin Champagne Balloon Flight - Any Time @ Over 100 UK Locations! 99£ pp
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I totally agree regarding cancelations, it is almost worse then lottery. It took me 7 attempts and more then 12 month to finally prebook a flight on suitable day. The day was "so good" that from take-off to landing we have traveled about a half a mile. It was extremely hot and windless morning. Despite that an unforgettable experience. I would recomend to try if you have a lot of patience.
It does get cancelled..a lot. We have had a double voucher since 2016 and had flights cancelled 7 times so far.The worst part is for weather reasons you don't know till the night before whether it's still on. When it's cancelled you go back to rebook and it's usually weeks till you get another free spot. It's not a present I'd recommend to be honest, you start expecting to be cancelled and the fun of it wears thin before you even go.
postmang2 m ago

Do not bother. Got my m.I.l one for her 60th, she was nearly 62 by the …Do not bother. Got my m.I.l one for her 60th, she was nearly 62 by the time she managed to fly. Conditions have to be super perfect too windy , not enough wind ,too moist! Too many days wasted getting to the site only to be cancelled.



Have to say we found the same, as did our son's parents in law. Well over a year for us before we finally managed to go after frequent cancellations and over two years for them. It was a great experience in the end, but prepare to be frustrated and have wasted trips.
Do not bother. Got my m.I.l one for her 60th, she was nearly 62 by the time she managed to fly. Conditions have to be super perfect too windy , not enough wind ,too moist! Too many days wasted getting to the site only to be cancelled.
Shame so many balloon trips end in death
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Virgin Mobile - 15oo mins, ult texts, 4Gb 4g data on rollover £8 / 12mths. Now live Uswitch exclusive
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Found 1st FebFound 1st Feb
Virgin Mobile Multi SIM 12 month contract - 4G Data rollover 1500 minutes Unlimited texts 4GB data £8 per month Over 99% 4G coverage Virgin Mobile service uses E… Read more
Customer service is shocking across the entire Virgin range. I just ring cancellations, inform them of my woes and that I want to leave and they normally sort it out properly.
worst customer service
I just rang and the fella said they don't allow tethering which was a deal breaker for me. They rang me to offer this deal on a 30 day contract for £4p/m which I was obviously happy to take but have cancelled now. Shame.
PaulBearHull6 h, 17 m ago

Voted COLD as Virgin do NOT allow tethering, so whats the point?


Not on 3G they don’t, but on newer 4G is plans they do.
Voted COLD as Virgin do NOT allow tethering, so whats the point?
Free Amazon Echo device or bill credit when you sign up for Virgin Media bundle (till 31/1)
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I was reading techradar website and came across this post. Not sure if it is worth it, so I thought I'll just post it on here if anyone will benefits from it. Virgin Media is giv… Read more
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does this stack with the Quidco cashback?
Better off with the £90 discount tbh
Just a quick one, It's for NEW CUSTOMERS only. I'm currently trying to get a similar deal having used VM for many many years. Once again, they don't generally care about their current customers, just stealing customers from Sky or BT.
voted hot, as virgin packages are reasonable prices now compared to others, but I took a deal put with free Netflix 3 months ago and still waiting for the code, kind of thinking it's not going to happen......
Don't fall for the same trap as others, call Virgin Media (and record the call) to confirm utilisation status (how crowded the network is in your area).

Basically if all the neighbours in your neighbourhood you'll have supernatural broadband from Virgin Media, however if everyone is home you'll be lucky if you can stream music from your new echo.
Virgin Trains Family Offer - Open RETURN Family tickets (West coast line) from £65 some cheaper (Eg 2 Adults, 4 Children Birmingham - London £65 Return / £10.83pp) when Travelling to / from London Euston
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Found 28th JanFound 28th Jan
Just noticed that Virgin Trains (West Coast) have their great Family offer on again just in time for Half Term & Easter. They say from £65 but I have found some fares cheaper, … Read more
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Heat purely because all the comments from massive twats
Thanks for posting!
HotGBDeals4 m ago

What happens if you book 2 adults and 1 child and the child doesn’t travel?


You'd have to borrow another to ensure the ticket was valid for actual travel!
"Fixed price for a family of any size (minimum of 1 adult and 1 child, up to a maximum of 2 adults and 4 children)."
HotGBDeals28th Jan

What happens if you book 2 adults and 1 child and the child doesn’t travel?

Nothing
Cazdob1 h, 36 m ago

I’d wait till the Virgin seat sale where can get £8 each return for Bi …I’d wait till the Virgin seat sale where can get £8 each return for Birmingham to London....

I'm waiting on that xxx
Virgin Media Customer? Upgrade your TV box to the latest V6 model FREE OF CHARGE @ Virgin Media
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Found 24th JanFound 24th Jan
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Starting today, Virgin Media customers are able to swap their current box for the latest V6 model for free! Previously, Virgin had asked for £20 for the privilege, and this was… Read more
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caligari1 h, 37 m ago

Err, I'm just repeating what I've already said in my original post: the …Err, I'm just repeating what I've already said in my original post: the Virgin worker (ahem) had apparently said that running the PS4 via ethernet from the V6 box would allow for faster downloading etc, instead of using the PS4's wireless. Again, this is just what the installation guy had told my Mum's partner - he even left a 1 metre ethernet cable so he obviously didn't mean for it to connect directly to the hub as that's in an entirely different room. Very odd!IOh well, whatever! They're chuffed with the boxes as it is! 😁


Very odd indeed!
rev64 h, 12 m ago

Why would you do that?


Err, I'm just repeating what I've already said in my original post: the Virgin worker (ahem) had apparently said that running the PS4 via ethernet from the V6 box would allow for faster downloading etc, instead of using the PS4's wireless. Again, this is just what the installation guy had told my Mum's partner - he even left a 1 metre ethernet cable so he obviously didn't mean for it to connect directly to the hub as that's in an entirely different room. Very odd!I

Oh well, whatever! They're chuffed with the boxes as it is! 😁
Edited by: "caligari" 17th Feb
caligari3 h, 24 m ago

Huge thanks to the OP for this - my Mum has upgraded three boxes (yes, …Huge thanks to the OP for this - my Mum has upgraded three boxes (yes, three!) for free, so she's mega-chuffed.One thing that I'm a little confused about is that the installation guy gave my Mum's partner a short ethernet cable, and said that he could run his PS4 through the V6 box instead of using the wireless connection. I've tried to get this working for him but I'm having no luck - and I can't find anything on Google that says that it can be done.Does anybody know if this is actually possible?


Absolutely not; there's only one ethernet port on the V6!
caligari5 m ago

Huge thanks to the OP for this - my Mum has upgraded three boxes (yes, …Huge thanks to the OP for this - my Mum has upgraded three boxes (yes, three!) for free, so she's mega-chuffed.One thing that I'm a little confused about is that the installation guy gave my Mum's partner a short ethernet cable, and said that he could run his PS4 through the V6 box instead of using the wireless connection. I've tried to get this working for him but I'm having no luck - and I can't find anything on Google that says that it can be done.Does anybody know if this is actually possible?


Why would you do that?
Huge thanks to the OP for this - my Mum has upgraded three boxes (yes, three!) for free, so she's mega-chuffed.

One thing that I'm a little confused about is that the installation guy gave my Mum's partner a short ethernet cable, and said that he could run his PS4 through the V6 box instead of using the wireless connection. I've tried to get this working for him but I'm having no luck - and I can't find anything on Google that says that it can be done.

Does anybody know if this is actually possible?
25% off Grand Central Advance tickets
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Found 22nd JanFound 22nd Jan
25% off Grand Central Advance tickets. It can be used in conjunction with a Railcard for a saving of up to 50% off! Remember :D iscount is only available on Grand Central Adva… Read more
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The code is ONLINE25, you enter the code in the promotion box before your search.

Remember:Discount is only available on Grand Central Advance tickets
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Virgin Mobile - Click through TCB to get £14 cashback and 5GB 4g data, 1500 mins, ult texts. Effective cost is £7.84 a month (£108 before cashback)
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Found 22nd JanFound 22nd Jan
Click through TCB here to get £14 off making it an effective cost of £7.84 a month on a 12 month contract Plus get all these exciting extras: 5GB of SIM Only data for £9. Off… Read more
Thanks for that I shall have a look. I am on a contract with talk talk at the moment and they are keen to keep it till March
Susan_Ellis13 h, 43 m ago

does anybody know what the best deal is for mobile at the moment. my …does anybody know what the best deal is for mobile at the moment. my talk-talk contract is about to expire!


Do you know how much your usage is? I would find that out before you decide what you want. It might be very different from what you need.
Susan_Ellis2 h, 16 m ago

does anybody know what the best deal is for mobile at the moment. my …does anybody know what the best deal is for mobile at the moment. my talk-talk contract is about to expire!


what i always do is just google "best sim only deal" and go from there - a lot of the price comparison sites will give you a lot of good options.
does anybody know what the best deal is for mobile at the moment. my talk-talk contract is about to expire!
Anon321 h, 44 m ago

Sounds good do you have proof



load of us have similar for the less, depends on the deal at the time, three times in recent months they have had this down for £4 can be found on here, on rolling contracts. the offers change all of the time sadly though no time machines around at the moment
Virgin Atlantic £50 flights to Miami  @ Waterloo Station
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Be quick - Virgin are selling/ giving away £50 flights to Miami @ Waterloo Station right now, with flexibility needed to fly straight away. Obvs a publicity stunt but if you fancy… Read more
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clarkgable6 m ago

Expired now, they were supposed to be available for purchase between 7 and …Expired now, they were supposed to be available for purchase between 7 and 10am on Mon 22nd.


ah, let's expire it then
Expired now, they were supposed to be available for purchase between 7 and 10am on Mon 22nd.
ha ha - CRAZY - you need to fly on 23rd and come back on 25th - and ensure your ESTA is up-to-date!!!
As well as pack your clothes, find somewhere to stay, get some $ etc. etc.
Then spend 8+ hours flying back and you have to get over the jet-lag
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kamenitzabrit31 m ago

Brilliant excuse for a few perverts to hassle a female and say they …Brilliant excuse for a few perverts to hassle a female and say they thought she might be cabin crew - ought to have put more thought into this promo really.Seriously though, it's great for people living within an hour of Waterloo and nothing to do...... just hang around all day and hope, but what about anyone in Bristol or Newcastle, not a chance of them getting a sniff.Yet another freebie for those living in the capital, but I suppose the population density makes it worthwhile.


A pervert will perv anyway?

It's pretty clear you need to spot the cabin crew in uniform - could be a bloke, after all.
Brilliant excuse for a few perverts to hassle a female and say they thought she might be cabin crew - ought to have put more thought into this promo really.

Seriously though, it's great for people living within an hour of Waterloo and nothing to do...... just hang around all day and hope, but what about anyone in Bristol or Newcastle, not a chance of them getting a sniff.
Yet another freebie for those living in the capital, but I suppose the population density makes it worthwhile.
Filippo Berio  Olive Oil (500ml)  now £3 was £5.95 @ Tesco (in-store & online)
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Filippo Berio Special Selection Extra Virgin Olive Oil (500ml) half price @Tesco available both in-store & online now £3 was £5.95 Offer valid until 06/02/2018
mac16116 h, 20 m ago

I'll stick to LIdl £2 ish for 75ml ,it has the same peppery taste as the …I'll stick to LIdl £2 ish for 75ml ,it has the same peppery taste as the filippo one delicious used to but Filippo until someone told me about Lidl ,i cant tell the difference gets fantastic reviews



Lidl one seems pricey.
Edited by: "Gooner77" 22nd Jan
FILIPPO BERIO FILIPPO BERIO FILIPPO BERIO AHHHHHH
mac161124 m ago

I'll stick to LIdl £2 ish for 75ml ,it has the same peppery taste as the …I'll stick to LIdl £2 ish for 75ml ,it has the same peppery taste as the filippo one delicious used to but Filippo until someone told me about Lidl ,i cant tell the difference gets fantastic reviews


Me too, I like the Lidl one for normal use, Fillipo is always disappointing, for that money pay a tad more and get miles better proper olive oil, not mass produced cr@p
I'll stick to LIdl £2 ish for 75ml ,it has the same peppery taste as the filippo one delicious used to but Filippo until someone told me about Lidl ,i cant tell the difference gets fantastic reviews
Virgin  200Mb broadband and weekend phone for £31 - after asking for disconection
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Found 19th JanFound 19th Jan
Hi, I've been a virgin customer for 6 years. las year been paying for the same deal £44 then last month my customer discount expired and whent to £55. So i've called them, asked f… Read more
NorthantsPete11 h, 47 m ago

ANY new deals for NEW customers?Im on adsl, 20mb all day as im 100ft from …ANY new deals for NEW customers?Im on adsl, 20mb all day as im 100ft from the exchange but were last to get fibre according to the BT engineerVirgin my only option but left last year when they put the price up to £56 from £24


What you looking for just broadband ?
kingp1n20th Jan

Exactly...for online gaming like FIFA it's hurrendous...even with ethernet …Exactly...for online gaming like FIFA it's hurrendous...even with ethernet connected my speeds don't surpass 35mb/s (PS4 pro) yet I'm on the 200mb speed...think I need to buy a 3rd party router like you.


You are getting confused between megabits per second and mega bytes per second. 200 megabits per second (mb/s) download speed will only transfer max 25 mega bytes per second (MB/s). There are 8 bits in a byte. PS4 I believe shows MB/s so you are actually getting a very good speed!! If you are getting 35mb/s on speed test website then you should complaint to virgin, but it sounds like you are getting above 200 mb/s.
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PC_Guy_200620th Jan

Alarm_MuhammadYour broadband speed could be down to YOUR network (Faulty …Alarm_MuhammadYour broadband speed could be down to YOUR network (Faulty lead, Home plug plugged into a surge bar,) as typically now Virgin give you more than your speed to balance the VIRGIN WIFI usage from other customers using your Hub as a Wifi spot. I would plug a lead directly into your hub and do a speed test ( http://www.speedtest.net/) and see what it says. If the speed isn't at your Hub then could have a Fault with Hub or Line into your property. Remember Wifi speeds are only going to be as fast as both ends hardware will allow. Hope this helps.



Im only on 20mb but im always messign with my setup - ive got three routers in my house and a threat management gateway so im always trying to find the weakest link

sometimes its just a case of "its a netgear" and you buy something new and pow!
ANY new deals for NEW customers?

Im on adsl, 20mb all day as im 100ft from the exchange but were last to get fibre according to the BT engineer

Virgin my only option but left last year when they put the price up to £56 from £24
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called virgin media week ago to disconnect (last date 07th march), nothing offered so far !
They were in fact quite happy to disconnect !
40gb data 5000 minutes, unlimited texts Virgin media retentions Sim only deal £10
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Hi, i got a call from virgin media today and they offered me a 30 day rolling contract sim only with 40gb data, 5000 minutes, unlimited texts. the catch.... you have to be a custo… Read more
Would like to know myself
Anyone know if this deal is still running?
Phoned their sales team today... Apparently, the offer is strictly for smartphone usage... They don't permit tethering... They also don't allow their data allowances to be used on tablets.
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I had a call this morning telling me about the 100 GB data deal for £20 which is on their website.
litster9th Feb

Just called to see if I could squeeze this deal out of VM as we have 2 …Just called to see if I could squeeze this deal out of VM as we have 2 contracts with 3 which are about to end and I am already a VM customer but I was told the I wasn't one of the chosen few. I was however advised than an "even better" deal was being released next Monday 12th Feb and the sales team member took my number and promised to call me back, let's see what happens !!!!!


Interesting.... I contacted them on Friday about the 8GB for £7 deal that's on here. They weren't having it so I just said fair enough, I'll just go elsewhere then. The guy on the phone then said, well if you are OK to wait until Monday, let me call you back as I may be able to offer you a better deal. I'm in no rush as I still have 3 weeks on my EE contract, so I said fine, so it will be interesting to see what he comes back with - assuming he calls me back at all, it is Virgin we're talking about.
30% Discount on Virgin Train East Coast with Virgin Red App
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30/04/2018Expires on 30/04/2018Found 16th JanFound 16th Jan
Download virgin red app and login with an email address you have previously used to buy any virgin companies products (for example, virgin broadband, mobile, money or virg… Read more
App Store and Play only
...and you don't even need to bring your own copy of the daily mail...
united00218 h, 33 m ago

You can get a discount for East and West ( on my app anyway)


It states West only on Red app page ? Both offer me £25 out and £75 for return journey-rip off !
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You can get a discount for East and West ( on my app anyway)
Virgin Money 24-month 0% balance transfer credit card, no BT fee
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Found 9th JanFound 9th Jan
Hey… I just found a balance transfer credit card with a decent 0% period and zero fee. Virgin Money’s 24-month balance transfer credit card offers: 0% on balance transfers for… Read more
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muz37913 m ago

Balance transfer is when you transfer the credit balance from one card to …Balance transfer is when you transfer the credit balance from one card to another . Money transfer is when you transfer cash into your bank account and it is then reflected on your credit card balance .


Thanks for that! Appreciated.
ianispne51 m ago

Pretty novice question but what is the difference between a balance …Pretty novice question but what is the difference between a balance transfer and a money transfer? I've started paying interest on my current credit card and just want to shift it on to a new one. To clarify will this transfer my credit card debt at 0%? I've never done it before. Thanks in advance.



Balance transfer is when you transfer the credit balance from one card to another .

Money transfer is when you transfer cash into your bank account and it is then reflected on your credit card balance .
Pretty novice question but what is the difference between a balance transfer and a money transfer? I've started paying interest on my current credit card and just want to shift it on to a new one. To clarify will this transfer my credit card debt at 0%? I've never done it before. Thanks in advance.
Is it just me or has anyone else been declined by the soft credit check? I wanted to transfer £5K from the cost of recently buying a property. My credit rating on Experian is over 980. I thought I'd have a good chance. Does anyone else know about Virgin's criteria?
Phobia of Flight ? Virgin Atlantic to offer Free course for passengers who are scared of flying for anyone who book ticket today
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Found 9th JanFound 9th Jan
Seen it here. Not a deal for everyone but might be helpful to someone who going to fly with them but are scared of flying. Customers who book a flight on Tuesday with the airl… Read more
Flight with plane is nearly same experience like with fast train ride
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yorkie4 h, 22 m ago

Because a phobia is an anxiety disorder. They will more than likely have …Because a phobia is an anxiety disorder. They will more than likely have started engaging in safety behaviours which are maintaining the anxiety and reinforcing their beliefs that it's dangerous.


OK Sigmund if you say so
nihir8 h, 16 m ago

I think it’s great freebie with no obligation to flyfor someone who has f …I think it’s great freebie with no obligation to flyfor someone who has flight phobia. EasyJet charges £199 and Virgin Atlantic charges £267 for this normally.


Probably crash a plane once in a while to get sales up on the courses
As someone once said to me, flying is fine, it's the take-offs and landings you have to worry about! Why's that I said - they're all done by computers? Yeh, just think of the landing as a controlled crash! And hope the software isn't Microsoft.
Edited by: "LesD" 9th Jan
Just book a flight with Ryan Air. The will probably cancel it. No fear sorted.
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