does this work with iphone?
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FFS. Its like nursery school in here (lol)
Making it sound like EVERY lock will be compatible is not helpful as mine and at least one other lock is clearly not compatible, but a sincere thanks for trying
Tell me about it, i try and help out and get aload of grieve, my god.
Christ, covid has taken its toll on the members here. Arguing over door locks (lol)
I also have one that it does not fit, it is a Hoppe Asgard, the top and bottom screw holes are both out of the specifications of the Yale guide. I would love to have bought one. Is this one of the “only 2 handles” you mention that “both fit”?
I got this 6 months ago on the amazon warehouse deal.. Love it, was worried reading the reviews, but installed it myself, took my time following youtube videos and never had a problem.. My old door lock had to be locked using a key, however if you left the key in it, it couldn't be unlocked from the outside, I know it sounds petty, but it drove me insane.. Use key to open door, then use key to unlock door, remove key, then find key to open door etc.. This is handle up, and it's locked.. The fob takes about 3 to 4 secs to open, you can just about hear the machinery unlocking the door, takes a while to get used to, so slightly slower than using a key, but it's seconds. Personally I love it and would recommend to anyone.
Isn't it same when you lose your key. :/
I think you can only lock with smart assistants like Alexa because of this very reason. You can't unlock.
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Hahaha.. I was about 5 posts up from your post (probably just after the dongle comment) and I had this sickening feeling, if I can talk to my Alexa from the bathroom? And my colleagues can talk to my Alexa in another room than my from a 100 miles away, surely someone can talk to her from outside (lol) (lol) .. then I read your comment 🤟🏻
I’ll stick with my thick door handle, thanks.
Well it gives you something to do while you wait for the locksmith ;)
Some of the comments here ain’t really selling it, despite apparently owning it! (shock)
Wave 1 module isn't Bluetooth & neither is the 2nd gen Most people have a basic cylinder in their multipoint locking UVPC door which with a pair of mole grips and a screwdriver access to house can be obtained in less than 30 seconds. Pretty sure this lock will take longer and take more noise to break than that.. also I would guess 90 of crooks would look at the lock, see no key hole and not have a clue what to do... Resort to brick through window.
We always get the ‘experts’ though! (lol)
Says £190 now :(
Really want one of these but so much negativity puts me off from buying (confused)
you know you can turn the volume down or off?
No you can't pass through any USB so it's basically installing it on another device then using something like usbip to send the usb over the network. I migrated from raspberry pi so I may just setup another instance just for this as you can't use the Hassio and hassos image on HyperV. I would need to install Hassio on a standard Linux build first...
Clunk, bzzzz, beep. Too noisy for me returning late from the pub and trying not to wake my wife and kids. Returned.
All Yale Real Living Locks with Z-Wave are now compatible with Ring Alarm, including the Assure Lock SL (YRD256), Assure Lock Touchscreen (YRD226), Assure Lock Keypad with Z-Wave Plus and more The Conexis has the option for a Z wave module alongside one for Samsung things so should work. I have had one of these for a few years and has been brilliant.
Have had this for a couple of years and wouldn’t go back to a “normal” lock. Always used it with a z wave module from day one but the original one chewed through batteries. Got the new module and now the batteries last a good six months and that is with above average use. Great with kids with no lost keys to worry about, if they lose the tag, just delete it from the database.
For anyone wondering, there is not.
Any stock at Milton Keynes?
Best price I think I’ve seen on this! Heat from me!
It was £154 a few weeks ago, and £165 throughout Black Friday weekend. I will wait until it drops a little more.
Cracking bit of kit, Installed mine a year back and it’s never caused me an issue. The digital age is taking over:) Keys are a thing of the past, I no longer have car keys, house keys, factory keys etc.. just loads of fobs:)
most of the reviews are about the woeful app, I never use the app once I've setup the tag.
This is meant to be a easy replacement for a barrel lock. You have compared it to a item that comes complete and designed from the scratch up so it has this functionality easily fitted. Yes they could include something like a magnetic switches that would then leave wire hanging out (Untidy job) and drilling to place the contacts in the wood (if you have a wood door) but this is not meant for that buyer who just want to change the old barrel lock over to a more modern one with smart function and have learnt how to shut a door behind them.
something that could have easily been added making it smart-ER ..helps validate price-point when being marketed & sold as useful kit. A fridge has a small beep / tone to signify the door is still open & temp is rising as a consequence, not hard to do with a door meant to make security tighter & more efficient.
I have one of these. Absolutely brilliant. No more lost keys, snapped keys. Works flawlessly and I fit it myself within 30 minutes. Easy to withdraw pin numbers so no worry of spare keys in circulation. Can intergrate with alarm system and have access control data based on which pin was used and when. Mine looks as good as new after over a year of use.
By itself it cannot see if a door is open or closed as the latch in either position would be "out" so would beep whether the door was open or shut. You are basically asking it to do something it was not designed to do witout adding a lot more expense to it.
Nope but do a design job once & do it properly or make it half assed many a door is nudged shut (attempted anyway) because the person going through has hands full of stuff, a low tone to notify would be handy seeing as it already has a beeper for a variety of other reasons.
Curry's will price match this one, so that'll be another £10 or so off for those who get extra discounts through work
You can use a tiny inverter circuit to produce thousands of volts from a small battery, like a taser, or use a piezo gas igniter, either of which could potentially fry the electronics, or you could try rapid pulses at 9v or less. Very unlikely to cause it to unlock though. Could try confusing the cpu with RF, but I suspect they'll have considered and protected against that too. People used to use piezo lighters to get free games from arcade machines by sparking them against the coin mechanism, the induced voltage on the coin detection circuit could fool the machine into registering a coin being deposited.
The lock still needs the fob/card/phone to send the signal to unlock the door. The electronics won't engage the mechanics to unlock if signal isn't received.
I assume Yale have tested this and the lock fails closed.
LOL, what's a 'powerful battery'. You do know a device will only draw the appropriate current for its given resistance at that voltage or are you expecting a would be thief to bring along half a dozen car batteries connected in series to 'blow the joint'. Easier to smash a window.
If anyone has bought one, Amazon Warehouse have some like-new white key tags twin packs for only £3.19 (£9.40 on the Yale site). https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B076JF7T7R/ref=olp_f_usedLikeNew?f_usedLikeNew=true
I’d get this because it’s cool, and before you’d even got to my door, you’d have to get passed my ring, and then after the door my Yale Smart alarm, then my laser trip lines, then once your finally in, my 2 German Shepard and 2 Doberman companions.. how about that for a vision in my 2 bed semi (y)
I think you may be straying off topic there.......
@ukflyboy nice deal, cheapest in ages, shame the fickle winds of HUKDs are blowing the wrong way.
Ultion Smart has just been released. Is pretty pricey though - between £230-£260 depending on model
" z wave module" for the hack you must be close to the person operating the door, I would not worry about this because if someone is standing next to you at your front door with a laptop you would have big concerns why they are there, there are a few up to date video's on youtube about the hack! Heat for such a good deal
Genuine question. Does anyone know of one of these type of locks that has a key option as well. I live in a flat with only one door in and out..can’t take the risk of it not working or that’s me knackered
I think that was the first z wave module, that has been updated since then with better security. You could say someone stole your car the same way, or someone robbed you in the street, with no evidence to back it up. It would generate a crime number but you’re unlikely to get a pay out without supporting evidence. If you tried that and put your watches on eBay and were traced as part of the investigation, you’ll end up with a fraud conviction. I have one of these and it’s been great, but also have a house alarm and cctv. If set up 100% then these work great. The negative feedback ‘often’ comes from people who can’t/don’t have the patience to set them up correctly.
Had one of these on our back door for well over a year, No issues or problems, except its a battery hog, gets through 4 AA batteries every couple of months, but I do have the Wifi Module fitted to it. Have a different Yale Wireless lock on front door and batteries in that last over a year
I've been looking at these for a while but ended up with one of these Kaba Simplex locks for reliability.
No issues here after 15 months works perfectly every time with SmartThings
I've had this about a year now. Worked without a blib. I have the zwave module so can monitor and control from homeassistant. I think you have to install it perfectly for it to work as required, anything not quite aligned or binding and you'll have issues.
Hope it's better than this one! https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/drilling-open-a-smart-door-lock-in-4-seconds/ (Available on Amazon for £140 if you fancy one … (cheeky) )
Ordered thanks to this deal. Arrived and fitted myself today, worked first time. Guess I'll see how it holds up.
I have the front door type model My daughter is one for loosing here keys and we have had to replace them so about 3 years ago I got the one above. This one will go on a normal door lock. One of the differences ( i think) is there is no key on this so if something goes wrong you would have to get by another method. This has never happened but we do have a back door that we can get to and a hidden key. The unit does not need any mains/charging as a battery will last a good year and we use it constantly as we work from home so it gets used 20 times a day. We only use the keypad to get access but you can set up rfid so you can use it like a hotel room. There is no worry about being locked out and you can give someone a tag or code to get in (I think you can give a one time code for a delivery etc) so they can feed kitty. You can buy modules for the back ie smart home unlock, car type thing so you press it and the door wil unlock but we only use the keypad as that works fine. Only criticism is the screen is now all scratched up really bad. Dont know why. We did have a yale wireless alarm system and as many have said on here that was pants. We also have a ring device that we would also recommend. Guess if you had entrance and another door you could get a driver to leavce it just inside (by giving him a code) but as we work from home we have never really used it for that.
Can power it through mains? Ring bell works on battery too, or is that just backup?
You can open your lock via the app on your phone. You can send a virtual key to a neighbour or family member if needed etc. It new technology not sure how safe it is compared to a good old key.
No. They are for use with 3 point locks
:D :D This comment just made my day. Heat just for that :D
"Yale SD-L1000-CH Conexis L1 Smart Lock in" For the perfect pub door upgrade.
As opposed to attaching a pair of mole grips to the barrel and snapping the lock? I think you'll find locks are only for honest people...
(lol) (lol) (lol) it's the kids - they go out to play in the garden and forget to lock the door afterwards; this way I can also lock them out for the night Agreed in many ways with the previous comment there are many things to get right still; battery life especially with the z-wave module installed is abysmal and I'm not sure if they've fixed the clash between fobs and apps (to be honest, I'm not going to try and find out - in any case that's not what I bought it for)
Still feels like a beta product. Will wait for product maturity
Smart things hub with the OLDER Smart things app (you can't do it on the new app). Google for the instructions. It's not that hard to set up
Don't bother. Old model, Yale hasn't come out with a newer version in years. The android app hasn't been updated since summer 2018..... and currently has a 1.6 star average rating. That tells you everything you need to know about the support, reliability, security, and future updates from Yale for this very expensive lock. Just wish someone else would come to market with a multi-point smart lock to challenge Yale!
I have a similar setup except the auto unlock. Can you let me know how you set that up please.
Mine does but I had to ring for them to change the wording as it said ‘final exit secured by a key’ It was the AA and they double checked with their underwriter first.
You need to check with your insurer to be 100%, but they are. It's a more secure lock than most locks fitted to multipoint locking doors as you cannot do the lock snapping method to bypass the lock. The public side of the lock is just blanked off.
This is fantastic buy buy buy it will all be fine really!
1. The Yale app was terrible but it’s been much improved for the last year. 2. This is not an always online lock, no lock/unlock data goes back to Yale unless you use the phone app to open the door. Also you can’t remote unlock the door you need to be there so hackers can’t magically open your door. 3. You can use fobs that avoid any online / no internet issues. 4. Their is a 9v battery emergency prong on the outside of your battery’s go flat. 5. Battery’s easily last +6 months and you get lots of warning and beeps when it starts to die. 6. Owned one 18 months and it’s worked perfectly. We just use the fobs but it’s handy being able to send family a digital key if they are coming for the weekend etc and might need to get in.
You using the second generation of ZWave module? I got that and hooked it up to SmartThings and don't experience any battery drain beyond normal. I seem to remember any battery issues being due to either the first generation module or a bad device handler.
Thats y its a good idea to buy an rfid tag or card. Mine came with each inside the box but i bought extra for mrs
Yes. Did on mine. But thats not the problem. It replaces multipoint locks which you normally secure by tilting upwards
These smart locks are often used in conjunction with security systems, which can make a lot of noise and notify the home owner.
Nope. I don’t. Only know what I read. I drive a battered old Mazda. No one’s nicking my car for profit (lol) In terms of locks and smart home stuff the new Yale stuff is apparently pretty good (I’m led to believe by my pen tester friends - professional hackers if you like). Yale’s early attempts were pretty poor I’m told but they’re much more secure now - at least as secure as your home internet. If someone pops your WPA password and gets in to that then you’re in trouble. Lots of ways to make that less likely of course. Still recommend heat for this lock and when it comes to cyber security I’ll listen to my hugely qualified, and as a result very well remunerated, friends! (y) 🏻 When it comes to cars I’ll wait for a Tesla 3. It can phone home when it’s nicked and tell you, and the police, exactly where it is! 😁
From what I understand there is a possibility of hacking the L1 but only if a hacker happens to be nearby when you are pairing the lock to keys etc. Based on that assumption you’d have to have some pretty determined neighbours wanting to gain access to your property who are geared up and waiting for you to set up the device!
You obviously know nothing about scanning devices that require no breaking in. Do some research
I'll wait until the technology gets better, device gets slimmer and batteries last longer.
No. Just need to replace the handle. Installation menu is fairly clear and straight forward. The only criticism I had is the unintuative App.
Ordered, thanks OP :)
It would be easier to buy an auto centre punch. You can go through toughened glass in seconds
If they can break In to 60k mercs these will be child's play to them
Have you got rid of the yale alarm and door lock?
I have this lock and once the fobs/stickers/cards are programmed (initially at install) the lock or the app doesn't need internet/server access ever again and works completely offline.
If you need any confirmation that Yale have had serious problems keeping the IT that supports their apps up, hence impacting their users who cannot operate their connected devices then I suggest you read this: google.co.uk/amp/s/www.theregister.co.uk/AMP/2018/10/19/yale_security_fail/ To be fair I don't think the latest Yale outage impacted the locks, but hopefully it will make some of you think before you take the plunge and impact control of physical security on IT services which you cannot guarantee the service of, there is no contract for a service (just a one way services agreement to which you have to agree to), and no SLA.
Yes should be multi colour Friday.
Yale apps are unreliable, as are their servers. I would avoid them st all costs - and I have their alarm and a door lock. Appalling for a once great company.
Another Yale fail... And why trying to trust 'smart' stuff for physical security is not yet a great idea. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/10/19/yale_security_fail/
Finally someone knows what they're talking about (y) It angers me people think keys are safer when they're the most common so most burglar's are going to be prepared for a lock and carry a bump key or a hamer, its probably rare to find a hacker who can hack digitally or locksmiths experts If so they should find a new career
Not an issue, the snap a lock info was interesting. I hadn't realised quite how vulnerable my door locks were and while I have 4 cameras and an alarm at home they won't stop someone breaking in. :)
Sorry if you thought that, i was siding with you. Backing your point up.
I'm well aware how insecure traditional locks are, how did you infer I prefer keys?