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Great price!
Usually retail for approx £35
amazing price - I got a couple just in case! Heat added
"This plug will only work with existing Wiser Smart Heating Systems"
Great deal. Shame you can't use the Wiser smart plug with the Wiser thermostat - least that's what an Amazon reviewer said. Would have been great to control electric heating. Can anyone confirm to the contrary?
gettingwarmer25/11/2019 09:05

Great deal. Shame you can't use the Wiser smart plug with the Wiser …Great deal. Shame you can't use the Wiser smart plug with the Wiser thermostat - least that's what an Amazon reviewer said. Would have been great to control electric heating. Can anyone confirm to the contrary?


Not even through IFTTT?
Jabeat25/11/2019 08:50

amazing price - I got a couple just in case! Heat added


Got one too just in case...
I bought another when they were reduced to £34 for belt and braces protection against signal loss to our furthest radiator thermostats. At this price (which I think they really should be all of the time) I'm tempted to get a couple more.
Price has gone up, strangely! Misprice from Amazon?
vbnmu25/11/2019 09:59

Price has gone up, strangely! Misprice from Amazon?



I'm glad I didn't put it off till later - it did say the deal had 14 hours left. In the end I bought a couple.
vbnmu25/11/2019 09:59

Price has gone up, strangely! Misprice from Amazon?


Damn! That was quick. Shown as day long offer, expiring midnight.
Am expiring as seem cheap stock gone, and price gone up.
Edited by: "dragonballz78" 3rd Dec
VDisillusioned25/11/2019 09:35

I bought another when they were reduced to £34 for belt and braces …I bought another when they were reduced to £34 for belt and braces protection against signal loss to our furthest radiator thermostats. At this price (which I think they really should be all of the time) I'm tempted to get a couple more.


@VDisillusioned

Am guessing you have the system fitted? Do you use eco mode?

I've had mine for the past 2 months on eco mode and finindg that the boiler would turn on many times during the day.
There's one trv (maybe others) thats fires up but the flame icon doesn't appear on the app.

I checked signal strength using an older version of the app and bought a signal extender on the back on this.
I have reduced the set temp but no luck. Drayton support advised me to reset all trvs, which I did - that one trv was open (and no flame showing on app), it closed while I reset it and then back to the same thing. The room temp on the app was quite a bit higher than the set temp.

Yesterday I turned off eco mode and things seem better but early days still.
Signal and wifi strength are fine. The only thing I can think of is that I didn't fit the hub properly but then am able to turn any trvs on/off and set away mode so that seems unlikely.
vbnmu25/11/2019 10:49

@VDisillusioned Am guessing you have the system fitted? Do you use eco …@VDisillusioned Am guessing you have the system fitted? Do you use eco mode?I've had mine for the past 2 months on eco mode and finindg that the boiler would turn on many times during the day.There's one trv (maybe others) thats fires up but the flame icon doesn't appear on the app.I checked signal strength using an older version of the app and bought a signal extender on the back on this.I have reduced the set temp but no luck. Drayton support advised me to reset all trvs, which I did - that one trv was open (and no flame showing on app), it closed while I reset it and then back to the same thing. The room temp on the app was quite a bit higher than the set temp.Yesterday I turned off eco mode and things seem better but early days still.Signal and wifi strength are fine. The only thing I can think of is that I didn't fit the hub properly but then am able to turn any trvs on/off and set away mode so that seems unlikely.



We have the two zone and HW system, and use eco mode. Bar some initial reception issues for the furthest radiator valves, solved with a carefully placed range extender, we haven't had any troubles.

I did find querying the system via windows powershell to see what was going on with signal strength and quality very useful. I would imagine it would be helpful for debugging other problems as well. I think I used the method mentioned on this page to do that. You need to know the secret code and IP address of the Wiser controller, and I'm not sure that page tells you how to do that bit. It may be I found out how to do it on an Openhab community forum page - maybe this one. Once I worked out the commands needed I made a notepad document of them to make it easy to quickly find out the system status in the future. This is all fairly towards the limits of my technical abilities so you are on your own if you try it Good luck.
Edited by: "VDisillusioned" 25th Nov
VDisillusioned25/11/2019 11:16

We have the two zone and HW system, and use eco mode. Bar some initial …We have the two zone and HW system, and use eco mode. Bar some initial reception issues for the furthest radiator valves, solved with a carefully placed range extender, we haven't had any troubles.I did find querying the system via windows powershell to see what was going on with signal strength and quality very useful. I would imagine it would be helpful for debugging other problems as well. I think I used the method mentioned on this page to do that. You need to know the secret code and IP address of the Wiser controller, and I'm not sure that page tells you how to do that bit. It may be I found out how to do it on an Openhab community forum page - maybe this one. Once I worked out the commands needed I made a notepad document of them to make it easy to quickly find out the system status in the future. This is all fairly towards the limits of my technical abilities so you are on your own if you try it Good luck.



Did you have to install Home Assistant? home-assistant.io/doc…ows
Am sure i've read your post before and tried setting up HA but it wouldn't start.

My issue is also with the furthest placed trv which is why I bought the range extender. Since I am able to turn it on or off (and I checked the signal strength using the old app), I don't understand why it wouldn't close fully. Could be a faulty trv but this is the second one am trying and both had this issue.
Edited by: "vbnmu" 25th Nov
vbnmu25/11/2019 11:23

Did you have to install Home Assistant? …Did you have to install Home Assistant? https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/installation/windowsAm sure i've read your post before and tried setting up HA but it wouldn't start.My issue is also with the furthest placed trv which is why I bought the range extender. Since I am able to turn it on or off (and I checked the signal strength using the old app), I don't understand why it wouldn't close fully. Could be a faulty trv but this is the second one am trying and both had this issue.



No we just use the Wiser Heat Android app to control the system. It's works well enough for us, though at some point I will have a play with IFTTT as well to see if I can get geofencing working.
VDisillusioned25/11/2019 11:32

No we just use the Wiser Heat Android app to control the system. It's …No we just use the Wiser Heat Android app to control the system. It's works well enough for us, though at some point I will have a play with IFTTT as well to see if I can get geofencing working.



Sorry, I meant whether you had to install Home Assistant first in order to query using Windows Powershell? I don't have any technical training but am ok following guides etc, having rooted many phones and done other bits (not related I know) but I couldn't get Home Assistant working!
vbnmu25/11/2019 11:47

Sorry, I meant whether you had to install Home Assistant first in order to …Sorry, I meant whether you had to install Home Assistant first in order to query using Windows Powershell? I don't have any technical training but am ok following guides etc, having rooted many phones and done other bits (not related I know) but I couldn't get Home Assistant working!



TBH am extremely frustrated with this issue, to the point where I may just use a manual trv in that room. Makes no sense that I have to go through so many loops to fix Drayton's software/hardware.
Also, what I don't know is whether that trv is simply not closing and therefore the radiator is running when other trvs have called for heat - which would mean a faulty trv. But then how come it closes when i reset it? Or is that trv calling for heat for no apparent reason!
vbnmu25/11/2019 11:47

Sorry, I meant whether you had to install Home Assistant first in order to …Sorry, I meant whether you had to install Home Assistant first in order to query using Windows Powershell? I don't have any technical training but am ok following guides etc, having rooted many phones and done other bits (not related I know) but I couldn't get Home Assistant working!



No you just need to put the hub into setup mode and it acts as an wifi access point. Then you can connect to the hub and issue commands to it with Powershell.

Just found the following instructions on this page (not sure if I already posted that link above)

"
Press the setup button on your HeatHub, the light will start flashing
Look for the SSID 'WiserHeatXXX' where XXX is random
Connect to the SSID from a PC
Once connected run the following command in PowerShell
Invoke-RestMethod -Method Get -UseBasicParsing -Uri 192.168.8.1/sec…et/
This will return a string which is your system secret
Press the setup button on the HeatHub again and it will go back to normal operations"

Then you can use the secret returned to edit the command mentioned in the first link I posted in my comment higher up to query the system status. I can't really give you any more help, and of course the pages I've linked to are from people who are using these methods with the view to homebrew opensource home automation systems, so there is a lot of not particularly relevant information in them, but the info needed to get this to work is there. Good luck.
Edited by: "VDisillusioned" 25th Nov
VDisillusioned25/11/2019 11:59

No you just need to put the hub into setup mode and it acts as an wifi …No you just need to put the hub into setup mode and it acts as an wifi access point. Then you can connect to the hub and issue commands to it with Powershell.Just found the following instructions on this page (not sure if I already posted that link above)"Press the setup button on your HeatHub, the light will start flashingLook for the SSID 'WiserHeatXXX' where XXX is randomConnect to the SSID from a PCOnce connected run the following command in PowerShell Invoke-RestMethod -Method Get -UseBasicParsing -Uri http://192.168.8.1/secret/This will return a string which is your system secretPress the setup button on the HeatHub again and it will go back to normal operations"



Thank you. I'll give that a try over the next few days.
Would you mind if I sent some questions your way if am stuck?
vbnmu25/11/2019 12:05

Thank you. I'll give that a try over the next few days.Would you mind if I …Thank you. I'll give that a try over the next few days.Would you mind if I sent some questions your way if am stuck?



Sorry no, this stuff is stretching my technical abilities. So you are on your own. Just read the pages I posted carefully and figure it out. If I could get it to work I would expect most people could. Good luck.
vbnmu03/12/2019 10:45

Back at the lower …Back at the lower price:https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07D71BPGK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Thanks @vbnmu
Unexpired as back in stock at this price!
Edited by: "dragonballz78" 3rd Dec
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