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Does it offer anything better than Defraggler or even the built-in one from Windows?
diktiomenos57 m ago

Does it offer anything better than Defraggler or even the built-in one …Does it offer anything better than Defraggler or even the built-in one from Windows?


Defragmentation isn't really a thing anymore
diktiomenos1 h, 33 m ago

Does it offer anything better than Defraggler or even the built-in one …Does it offer anything better than Defraggler or even the built-in one from Windows?


it does add a fair bit. Something i remember is you can choose where on the disk programs sit which could make a fair difference to the speed.
But indeed, given the typical use of a HDD these days specialist tools making the most of them have numbered days.
r200ti1 h, 6 m ago

it does add a fair bit. Something i remember is you can choose where on …it does add a fair bit. Something i remember is you can choose where on the disk programs sit which could make a fair difference to the speed. But indeed, given the typical use of a HDD these days specialist tools making the most of them have numbered days.


No they are dead, more or less unless nowdays, granted at one time this was the muts you know whats...
Since drives use NTFS partition standard, there's no further need of these kind of apps as there are algorithms built in to this standard to stop it from happening in first place.
GregorskyDeals16th Jul

Since drives use NTFS partition standard, there's no further need of these …Since drives use NTFS partition standard, there's no further need of these kind of apps as there are algorithms built in to this standard to stop it from happening in first place.



Your sentence is absolutely false.

Read the Microsoft's technical advice:-

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Defragmentation and Windows NT Windows NT® didn't have a built-in defragmentation utility, and conventional wisdom at the time was that you didn't need one. After all, NTFS was built with optimization in mind, and it did not suffer from fragmentation as dramatically as a comparable FAT volume might have. But over time, even NTFS performance can suffer due to less-than-optimal file placement. This gave birth to a thriving market of third-party defragmentation tools.
Edited by: "splender" 18th Jul
splender18th Jul

Your sentence is absolutely false.Read the Microsoft's technical …Your sentence is absolutely false.Read the Microsoft's technical advice:-http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc767961.aspxhttp://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742585.aspxhttps://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/2007.11.desktopfiles.aspxDefragmentation and Windows NT Windows NT® didn't have a built-in defragmentation utility, and conventional wisdom at the time was that you didn't need one. After all, NTFS was built with optimization in mind, and it did not suffer from fragmentation as dramatically as a comparable FAT volume might have. But over time, even NTFS performance can suffer due to less-than-optimal file placement. This gave birth to a thriving market of third-party defragmentation tools.


Appreciate your comment but it relates to the old NTFS standard from Windows NT times which was 10+ years ago?? You have actually pasted a bit from 2007 publication! Come on..
GregorskyDeals12 m ago

Appreciate your comment but it relates to the old NTFS standard from …Appreciate your comment but it relates to the old NTFS standard from Windows NT times which was 10+ years ago?? You have actually pasted a bit from 2007 publication! Come on..



Please provide the facts to support your claims as hypertext links.

Plus a breakdown of what you think x% is using the old NTFS and what y% is using the new NTFS.

Because you said absolutely, " there's no further need of these kind of apps as there are algorithms built in to this standard to stop it from happening in first place."

(Because I still use it for old NT file systems.)
Edited by: "splender" 19th Jul
splender10 m ago

Please provide the facts to support your claims as hypertext links. Plus a …Please provide the facts to support your claims as hypertext links. Plus a breakdown of what you think x% is using the old NTFS and what y% is using the new NTFS.Because you said absolutely, " there's no further need of these kind of apps as there are algorithms built in to this standard to stop it from happening in first place."(Because I still use it for old NT file systems.)


Please use your link above and look at the publication date. I have better things to do than debate about this. NTFS improved a lot across 10 years, in general it may fragment in short periods of time but it designed to rebuilt the fragmentated sectors every time you rewrite or move the date to defragmentate as you go along. So in theory there's no need to use any external programs or not even recommended, especially that hard drives these days have firmware designed to accommodate this functionality above the operating system.
splender20 m ago

Please provide the facts to support your claims as hypertext links. Plus a …Please provide the facts to support your claims as hypertext links. Plus a breakdown of what you think x% is using the old NTFS and what y% is using the new NTFS.Because you said absolutely, " there's no further need of these kind of apps as there are algorithms built in to this standard to stop it from happening in first place."(Because I still use it for old NT file systems.)


I have clearly referred to the modern systems <5 years old. If you working on old system then you will needed this but there is a chance this app may not even run on your machine. Anyway, thanks for the chat. It's a pass from me at further replies. Have a nice day.
GregorskyDeals7 h, 44 m ago

I have clearly referred to the modern systems <5 years old. If you working …I have clearly referred to the modern systems <5 years old. If you working on old system then you will needed this but there is a chance this app may not even run on your machine. Anyway, thanks for the chat. It's a pass from me at further replies. Have a nice day.



You are now lying, this was your statement, "Since drives use NTFS partition standard, there's no further need of these kind of apps as there are algorithms built in to this standard to stop it from happening in first place."

Where in this statement of yours, one can find: "I have clearly referred to the modern systems <5 years old."? You supply no credible link to substantiate your statement is true, I requested this from you specifically, giving you benefit of the doubt, but you stil would not supply a technical link why modern systems do not need de-frag. You clicked like on your own comment too.

When you made a wrong statement, just admit that you were wrong, as your statement put people off all useful tools and is misleading, it is as simple as this, instead of lying your way out.
Edited by: "splender" 19th Jul
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