Posted 10 September 2010

Has anyone used KV Cameras?

Has anyone used kvcameras.com? Some great prices for canon lenses, too good to be true maybe?

Any experience appreciated.

Thanks in advance guys!

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10th Sep 2010
kvcameras
link below suggests potential scam
forum.aa419.org/vie…ht=

From whois
The site was only registered recently - in the US
Registrant:
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States

Domain Name: KVCAMERAS.COM
Created on: 06-Aug-10
Expires on: 06-Aug-11
Last Updated on: 06-Aug-10

Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598

Technical Contact:
Private, Registration
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598

Domain servers in listed order:
NS03.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS04.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
10th Sep 2010
site was created last month id be very wary!
11th Sep 2010
it's a scam - they've ripped off camerabox.co.uk which is a genuine site
15th Sep 2010
they use almost the same website layout as camerabox
i think they operated the same way as DIGITAL WAY
ask 17.5% fee when you use a creditcard and no charge when you use an international bank transfer
so i lost 899.90 euro and no canon 550d with 2 acc.(digital way)
16th Sep 2010
Scam site for sure

For a laugh I emailed asking if I could collect from their store, their reply:

"Dear Customer

We don't have the shop only office.
Unfortunately we not able to sell goods from the office.

Best Regards

KV cameras LTD
Customer Service Dept.,
St. Helens Pl,
City of London, EC3A, UK
United Kingdom"

dodgy
17th Sep 2010
Hey guys,

I have just informed godaddy.com about the site. They will be tearing it down shortly. It is a CONFIRMED scam site. Front to steal credit card details and make a quick buck. If you want it to go down faster please email about this scam site to abuse@godaddy.com.

Hope this helps. Sorry to hear about those who make a honest living and get scammed by scums.
17th Sep 2010
I have also informed tradingstandards.gov.uk. They have started a criminal investigation with the trading council in uk. PS. Companies house informed me that their company number is also fake. Please don't do bank transfers to any company as its impossible to retrieve the funds. Your better off taking risks with credit cards in the future as there is protection.

Cheers
17th Sep 2010
sorry to hear that. have done all I could so no one else falls for them. I was able to reach them two weeks ago to find out more about the company. But now it seems they are not picking up any calls! Thank god I waited to order something, now its all clear.
schoneveldandre
they use almost the same website layout as camerabox i think they … they use almost the same website layout as camerabox i think they operated the same way as DIGITAL WAY ask 17.5% fee when you use a creditcard and no charge when you use an international bank transferso i lost 899.90 euro and no canon 550d with 2 acc.(digital way)
20th Sep 2010
good lord!
I made the order, was doing the checkout...and just when I was ready to enter my credit card number I told myself: "lets check if it is too good to be true....even thought it is not "officially" a chinese website"
good thing I've check....
thanks again to all of you!

Mike

daniellet
sorry to hear that. have done all I could so no one else falls for them. … sorry to hear that. have done all I could so no one else falls for them. I was able to reach them two weeks ago to find out more about the company. But now it seems they are not picking up any calls! Thank god I waited to order something, now its all clear.
27th Sep 2010
Thanks Guys. I almost made the order today after received the reply from them. I also forwarded the email to both abuse@godaddy.com and ecc@tsi.org.uk. Hope they act on it fast before more victims caught with this scam.

sales@kvcameras.com to me
show details 3:01 PM (40 minutes ago)

Dear Customer

Yes we do shipping to Thailand.
Delivery is free on orders over £49

Best Regards

KV cameras LTD
Customer Service Dept.,
St. Helens Pl,
City of London, EC3A, UK
United Kingdom
29th Sep 2010
Hi guys! I am in the same trouble. The money are transferred already. How do you think, is there any solution to return our money back?
Eugene.
30th Sep 2010
Thanks for the info. Knew it was to be too good to be true!
30th Sep 2010
We just got taken for $375 for a lens ... transfered direct to thir account. Now all thier emails bounce back and their website is disconnected First time I've been taken in.
4th Oct 2010
thanx guy's for this information

and thanx to you daniellet
5th Oct 2010
seems they are at it again, CROOKS. they has stolen the ID of american company Outdoor Technology
5th Oct 2010
ecojuhari
Hi guys! I am in the same trouble. The money are transferred already. How … Hi guys! I am in the same trouble. The money are transferred already. How do you think, is there any solution to return our money back?Eugene.

As I said Eugene, nearly impossible to get it back if you did the transfer yourself, for UK account its possible to reverse the payment if you have a Business account.

Cheers
5th Oct 2010
If someone has transferred money to them, please post their bank account number and the bank name here. I may have a way to inform the bank as I am in UK that is if the account was in UK.

Cheers
7th Oct 2010

International Bank Transfer Details
------------------------------------------------------
Bank:
Barclays

Bank Address:
77 High street, Gillingham, Kent, ME7 1BN

Account:
KV cameras

SWIFT/BIC:
BARC GB22

IBAN:
GB06 BARC 2067 8883 1268 97

Order Total: 184.09€
------------------------------------------------------
Important!

Please notify our billing department by e-mail: billing@kv-cameras.com on the day you wire your payment.
Please reference the Order Number (554938) when making a payment via Wire Transfer. This information is very important in order to properly credit your account.

Allow 3-7 working days for the payment to reach our account.
------------------------------------------------------

Your order has been updated to the following status.

New status: Payment Pending
8th Oct 2010
International Bank Transfer Details
------------------------------------------------------
Bank:
Barclays

Bank Address:
77 High street, Gillingham, Kent, ME7 1BN

Account:
KV cameras

SWIFT/BIC:
BARC GB22

IBAN:
GB06 BARC 2067 8883 1268 97

Order Total: 612.20€
------------------------------------------------------
Important!

Please notify our billing department by e-mail: billing@kv-cameras.com on the day you wire your payment.
Please reference the Order Number (554913) when making a payment via Wire Transfer. This information is very important in order to properly credit your account.

Allow 3-7 working days for the payment to reach our account.
------------------------------------------------------

Your order has been updated to the following status.

New status: Payment Pending

@ daniellet: what do you think you can do from GB? I made the transfer from Germany an probably theres no easy way to get my money back, though its not booked on the receivers account yet...
10th Oct 2010
Bank:
Natwest

Bank Address:
11 Broadway, Stratford, London, E15 4DX

Account:
KV cameras

SWIFT/BIC:
NWBK GB2L

IBAN:
GB06 NWBK 6020 3642 2255 07

Order Total: $425.94
10th Oct 2010
I have transferred money to them before I recognized it is a scam site :s
Do I have any chance to get my money back?
13th Oct 2010
hey guys,

I have a business account with Natwest and I am going to give my bank manager a call to find out who it is and try to track them down and kill the account and possible get an investigation under the person's name so that he can't open any account in GB. Just watch. I haven't lost any money but some how I feel the need to get them as I was so close to ordering.

keep you guys updated.
14th Oct 2010
Ah! I was JUST about to buy a lens from them when I thought I better check it out first. The price was a little too good to be true. Thank the Lord for Google!
15th Oct 2010
KV-CAMERA is a SCAM site!
Can someone help bring them offline?
Get them reported?

Registrant:
kv cameras
St Helens st
London, ec13rn
United Kingdom

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: KV-CAMERAS.COM
Created on: 27-Sep-10
Expires on: 27-Sep-11
Last Updated on: 27-Sep-10

Administrative Contact:
puniskis, stasys Email Masking Image@ymail.com
kv cameras
St Helens st
London, ec13rn
United Kingdom
02081339839 Fax --

Technical Contact:
puniskis, stasys Email Masking Image@ymail.com
kv cameras
St Helens st
London, ec13rn
United Kingdom
02081339839 Fax --

Domain servers in listed order:
NS47.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS48.DOMAINCONTROL.COM

Information Updated: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 10:39:46 UTC
17th Oct 2010
Good thing I read this I was about to order a 50d from them!
20th Oct 2010
Same story here...tried to order via Creditcard but their system refused mine...

After asking which CCs they do accept I got the (very dodgy) reply that below made me suspicious....

Can't believe this site is still online....

I actually do wounder if they hack our credit card details this way as well if you try to pay with it...
basically their system has all the info one would need to abuse our CCs.

Dear Customer

We see that you tried to make a purchase via Credit card.
Please provide for us following details:
Name, Surname, Full address, Card expiry date, CVV 3 last digits of you card, Verified by Visa password if you are registered.
Once we receive these details we will charge our from our office using different system.
You will receive you order in 3 working days
Best Regards

KV cameras LTD
Customer Service Dept.,
St. Helens Pl,
City of London, EC3A, UK
United Kingdom
20th Oct 2010
You'd be crazy to hand over any details to a merchant who asks for your verified by visa password.

Thanks for the info.
20th Oct 2010
hey guys,

unfortunately I made the same mistake as many before me. I placed an order for a cheap lens. I have transfered any many so far though. What do you recommend I should do ?
Should just wait and see what happens and hope that the scam site gets shut down soon?
thanks in advance!
21st Oct 2010
They are an absolute fraud. I emailed CameraBox (the legitimate company in London) and asked them if KV-Cameras is a division of theirs. Here was their reply:

No, we are in no way affiliated with KV cameras. This is a fraud company that has mimicked our web design.

Kind Regards

Gary Smart
Online Response Manager
Camerabox Limited

Check out Camerabox website (the "real" company at camerabox.co.uk to see how close the sites are.
24th Oct 2010
Also from me MANY THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION ! Your warnings saved me a lot of money and I hope, theese guys will be catched.
24th Oct 2010
Contact your bank for any card number/ccv code combo that you put in there, have them cancel the card and issue you a new one. this guys is selling the info that he/they get from this scam site.

Please someone, try to get this site cut off by their ISP, i have already filed a complaint with the IC3, so they are aware of it, but no movement yet.

also, post the info about the site in as many places as possible.
27th Oct 2010
I too have been taken by these ****. I ordered a Tokina lens by international transfer. I have exchanged emails 5-6 times each with a response from someone with fairly broken english. This is a real bummer. I called my bank and they can do nothing for a transfer except put a request in for a "return" of funds. This is a total shame. I am disgusted.
28th Oct 2010
Another fake company to watch out for is: shootphotomarket.com/

See here:

ripoffreport.com/cam…htm

and here:

forums.dpreview.com/for…193

These Fraudsters are using NatWest Branch in Hinckley:

Ref: GB59NWBK60215761799246

Beneficiary: Shootmarket
28th Oct 2010
Glad I looked them up!!! After seeing what you all have posted I went back to the site for a look-a-round and noticed how the credit card logos in the lower corner are not legitimate logos currently being used by those companies.....Dead give-a-way. How many people would really pay attention to that though??
28th Oct 2010
@samanthad - good catch. also notice that if you start shopping and/or go to checkout, it's not secure (https) but rather just an open port 80 connection. dead giveaway. it's not possible to do CC authorization without a secure connection.

is there something else we can do to shut them down?
31st Oct 2010
hello guys i wired money for them and didn't received item for 3 weeks and suddenly this Saturday DHL delivered it to me.
Hope you all will receive you items soon.

Bank:
Natwest

Bank Address:
11 Broadway, Stratford, London, E15 4DX

Account:
KV cameras

SWIFT/BIC:
NWBK GB2L

IBAN:
GB06 NWBK 6020 3642 2255 07

Order Total: £ 2114,95
31st Oct 2010
Seems strange that a website whose sole purpose is to rip people off would suddenly have stock to send out.
2nd Nov 2010
Wow, I'm so glad I checked. I was about to place an order for Canon 24-70mm, which is $300 cheaper on their site. Like many have said, it's too good to be true. I first noticed that on their home page, they have this similar ad as Camerabox that says "The Professional's Choise." They copied the add from Camerabox, but misspelled "choice". Those dumb-ass frauds.

Don't buy from them!
3rd Nov 2010
gmrecruitment
hello guys i wired money for them and didn't received item for 3 weeks … hello guys i wired money for them and didn't received item for 3 weeks and suddenly this Saturday DHL delivered it to me.Hope you all will receive you items soon. Bank:NatwestBank Address:11 Broadway, Stratford, London, E15 4DXAccount:KV camerasSWIFT/BIC:NWBK GB2LIBAN:GB06 NWBK 6020 3642 2255 07Order Total: £ 2114,95

BAD JOKE!!!
3rd Nov 2010
thanks for the info guys! was almost thinking of going thru with a purchase.. but of course had to do some research because it seemed TOO GOOD to be true! thanks again!