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Posted 21 August 2012
Nokia 808 Pureview Smartphone now £430 Delivered from Expansys
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I'll take the hit on cold votes for the sake of the few who are after this innovative smartphone, this is the lowest price so far from a UK seller - it's bound to drop in price in the coming months like all other smartphones but for those who can't wait then £430 is a decent enough price
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sorted byDid you actually read the review?
"There are inexpensive compact cameras that offer more photographer-friendly features than the 808, but as a cameraphone, the Nokia blows its competition out of the water, and significantly narrows the gap between dedicated cameras and portable communications devices to the point where ultimate convergence seems all but inevitable (and probably sooner than some commentators had realised)."
It's been widely praised in reviews for its quality. Very impressive that this camera phone got their gold award.
View quality and sound from it too are phenomenal for a phone too, but it's not a great phone overall as is widely know. More of a proof of concept more than anything.
Probably a bit obvious but I'm guessing really it's more visualised as a camera NOT a phone and only there as sort of a tech demo really? I'm guessing they only put Symbian on so they people just have that option for calls and texts...
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LOL - Thanks! no reverse psychology here - honest, i just know a few folks waiting for the phone to drop in price will appreciate this post
Absolute rot. Obviously you have never used a Nokia nHD display. Have you ever checked the resolution of "large, high-quality LCD screens" (c.f. Lumix) found on typical cameras? Or wonder why they quote the resolution as 'dots' rather than pixels? That's because 460K dots works out at a mere 480x320. So in that respect, the 808 again beats typical compact cameras because it has a bigger, and better, screen!
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Well you could, though I'd use the gf2/3 or the epl1 as examples of the cameras, but would you have those with you every day and could any of them shoot upto 41mp.
It can, Nokia are bringing it to WP8 and a date will likely be announced in two weeks by them.
The simple reason this phone does not run WP7 is that it wouldn't work with the WP7 hardware, Microsoft are very strict about the hardware WP7 must run on (currently the Qualcomm Snapdragon platform) so Nokia could not use the dedicated Broadcom hardware they had spent many years developing the Pureview technology to work with. The underlying architecture of the current Symbian platform is different to WP7 as it uses a weaker central processor and then more dedicated processing systems rather than a single power processor to do most of the work as with WP7. With more time they will be able to release it the technology on the Windows platform.
Partly this is a tech demo, they knew it would take a while before they could release the technology on the Windows platform so after spending a long time developing it and headlines about Nokia being negative they released the device anyway which makes sense. There won't be much of a market for it but for those not needing anything fancy on the smartphone side and want a decent camera, it's still worth considering. The camera is stunning, its sensor is far larger than most compacts and almost as large as the CX size sensor Nikon use in the 1 series and Sony in the new RX100.
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And give nokia a break, they will certainly bring a future, more refined, version of this to a WP8 smartphone. But it makes sense to use symbian for v1. How damn expensive do you think this would have had to be if it was a top-end smartphone hardware from the start too??
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Yes but then you're getting on to using multiple devices again..... besides how will you know if you've taken a good photo on the phone? The resolution on this phone will be like looking at an etch a sketch! lol.
I didn't buy it for it's apps ... it doesn't have that many, as folk say. I didn't buy it because it had a snazzy operating system, it doesn't, Symbian is a bit cranky at times. I bought it for the camera, I love taking photos and video when I'm out and about, it's been great that way, still is. Course I can use it as a phone too, I hate it for texting, it has the most awful user interface EVER for texting ... but it's great for photos ! Just depends on what you want from your phone, I guess, there's no rights or wrongs.
Nice deal, OP. Heat added. I want one !
Specs gsmarena.com/nok…php
GENERAL 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
Announced 2012, February
Status Available. Released 2012, June
BODY Dimensions 123.9 x 60.2 x 13.9 mm, 95.5 cc
Weight 169 g
DISPLAY Type AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 360 x 640 pixels, 4.0 inches (~184 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass
- Nokia ClearBlack display
SOUND Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
- Dolby Digital Plus
- Dolby headphone enhancement
MEMORY Card slot microSD, up to 32 GB
Internal 16 GB storage, 1 GB ROM, 512 MB RAM
DATA GPRS Class 33
EDGE Class 33
Speed HSDPA 14.4 Mbps, HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, DLNA, UPnP technology
Bluetooth Yes, v3.0 with A2DP
NFC Yes
USB Yes, microUSB v2.0, USB On-the-go support
CAMERA Primary 41 MP (38 MP effective, 7152 x 5368 pixels), Carl Zeiss optics, autofocus, Xenon flash, check quality
Features 1/1.2'' sensor size, ND filter, up to 4x lossless digital zoom, geo-tagging, face detection
Video Yes, 1080p@30fps, lossless digital zoom, LED light, check quality
Secondary Yes, VGA; VGA@30fps video recording
FEATURES OS Nokia Belle OS
CPU 1.3 GHz ARM 11
GPU Broadcom BCM2763
Sensors Accelerometer, proximity, compass
Messaging SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Email, IM
Browser HTML5, Adobe Flash Lite
Radio Stereo FM radio with RDS; FM transmitter
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
Java Yes, MIDP 2.1
Colors Black, White, Red
- MicroSIM card support only
- SNS integration
- Active noise cancellation with a dedicated mic
- HDMI port
- MP3/WMA/WAV/eAAC+ player
- MP4/DivX/XviD/H.264/H.263/WMV player
- Voice memo/command/dial
- Organizer
- Document viewer
- Video/photo editor
- Predictive text input
BATTERY Standard battery, Li-Ion 1400 mAh (BV-4D)
Stand-by Up to 465 h (2G) / Up to 540 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 11 h (2G) / Up to 6 h 50 min (3G)
MISC SAR US 1.21 W/kg (head) 1.46 W/kg (body)
SAR EU 1.23 W/kg (head)
Price group
TESTS Display Contrast ratio: Infinite (nominal) / 4.698:1 (sunlight)
Loudspeaker Voice 71dB / Noise 64dB / Ring 78dB
Audio quality Noise -89.7dB / Crosstalk -89.0dB
Camera Photo / Video
Battery life Endurance rating 34h
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PureView hopefully will be revealed for WP8 at Nokia's conference on September 5th.
Hot it's not
What a rip off for a poorly spec'd phone which has an overpriced camera.
dpreview.com/art…iew
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Here's why i posted this deal and also ordered the phone today...
The camera tech is truly unique, innovative and a revolutionary quantum leap from current camera technology, check out this review specifically re the camera module from respected photography site... dpreview.com/new…iew, it's better than most standalone compacts and rival DLSRs in certain aspects, lots of other favourable reviews on the web for the phone itself too
The OS isn't too bad, it's not as user friendly or stable as iOS, WP and Android, but in many ways it is far more powerful . It has versions of most core applications (minus i think the official Kindle and Audible), the only real shortfall is amount of games
I currently have an SGS2 so i can't be considered a Symbian fanboy, but i open minded about the pros and cons of Symbian and think the 808 will be a great buy for some users. I chose this over a SGS3, both are very different phones with their own strengths, i love the imaging, but will miss certain apps - especially the range of games on Android
The 808 is about convergence like other smartphones, the USP is an awesome camera in a smartphone (if you can live with the power, quirks and effective end of life of Symbian), i personally rather carry one device than a DSLR and a separate phone.
Apart from the 41mp camera in the 808 there are other many positives including ....
Xeon flash - worth pointing out as other phones only have LED flash
FM transmitter
Replaceable battery
Micro SD card
USB on the go - in theory connect hard drives and other devices
Love or hate it - the Symbian OS has features not in other OSes likes multitasking, sideloading of media files etc
I can't help thinking that for that price you could get a better phone and a better camera. I got an HTC Evo 3D for £200 and a Lumix TZ10 for £90, though secondhand. You could get a TZ20 new for about £150.
Not voting hot or cold.
The reason it's on Symbian is because this is the OS they did the research on and the camera software is all written and optimised to work with Symbian.
No as I mentioned above all the R&D and software optimisation is for Symbian. The best user experience for this sensor is currently Symbian, it will be utilised on future devices with different operating systems.
Wp7 is just as dead, symbian still outsells it, besides it nor wp8 can cope with pureview currently.
And that date will be next year...
I think some people just want the one device; it's not practical always having a phone and camera with you.
For the full tech possibly but I expect some type of PureView to be in at least one of Nokia's debut WP8 devices this autumn.
If it had been a Nokia Pureview 808 with 12-15mp camera would it have gained so much interest and won so many awards, nah.
it needs win 8 (win RT) to incorporate the camera in to .. you can bet big time on this seeing its way in to a top end nokia win 8 phone which will take the battle to the iphone x
Do you not own a computer or a tv to view your photos on? lol