Skylake PC - 3.3GHz Intel i5 Quad Core, 8GB DDR 4, 120GB SSD, 1TB, WiFi, GTX 960 £551.99 @ Ebay / cclcomputers

rooney10

over priced ? .... Really ? Can you tell me where I can get these parts … over priced ? .... Really ? Can you tell me where I can get these parts to build this PC for cheaper if this one is ,like you say 'over priced' ....I understand the 960 card isn't the best and I don't think anybody here suggested or implied it was either , its horses for courses surely , the 960 is also not the most expensive and no doubt if you pay more money you would secure a better card.Read lessRead more

Intel Core i5 6400 - £140
Ram - £40
SSD - £35
1 TB Hard Drive - £40
960 GPU - £160
DVD writer - £12
Total - £427. Aye, I'd call it over-priced.

You're paying £120 for what is probably a poor quality PSU (£30?), a motherboard that isn't stated and a £20 case. It isn't a good deal, it's completely average. You could buy the parts yourself for the same price or cheaper.

Also, you're just going to run into a brick wall with a 960 card over the next 2-3 years. Just buy a 970, it's worth the extra £80-90.

Oh. And it comes with no Operating System, so you'd have to fork out a fair bit for that!

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Salfordgirl1

Over priced tbh. A 960? Not the best card.

over priced ? .... Really ?
Can you tell me where I can get these parts to build this PC for cheaper if this one is ,like you say 'over priced' ....

I understand the 960 card isn't the best and I don't think anybody here suggested or implied it was either , its horses for courses surely , the 960 is also not the most expensive and no doubt if you pay more money you would secure a better card.

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This is quite expensive. Also the three year warranty is a red herring, since if you buy PC parts individually yourself they tend to have AT LEAST a three year warranty any way - some GPUs have lifetime warranties now. In any case, if the thing goes wrong you'll have to ship the entire PC to them instead of just the broken part

Building a PC is easier than LEGO, I build my first when I was in Primary School. Wrap all the parts up together and build it with your son on Christmas morning - it'd be a great bonding experience.

If I was spending this much cash on a gaming machine I'd build this: uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/f…p6h

Yes the CPU is weaker, but not that much weaker and the move to DDR4 is pointless for a mid-range gaming PC right now. You're better of getting a better GPU.

Salfordgirl1

Intel Core i5 6400 - £140Ram - £40SSD - £351 TB Hard Drive - £40960 GPU - … Intel Core i5 6400 - £140Ram - £40SSD - £351 TB Hard Drive - £40960 GPU - £160DVD writer - £12Total - £427. Aye, I'd call it over-priced. You're paying £120 for what is probably a poor quality PSU (£30?), a motherboard that isn't stated and a £20 case. It isn't a good deal, it's completely average. You could buy the parts yourself for the same price or cheaper.Also, you're just going to run into a brick wall with a 960 card over the next 2-3 years. Just buy a 970, it's worth the extra £80-90.Oh. And it comes with no Operating System, so you'd have to fork out a fair bit for that!Read lessRead more

By the time you have factored in the cost of motherboard / case and case fans which is £35 by the way and not £20 ( http://www.cclonline.com/product/192087/GMX-FALCONRED/Cases/Game-Max-Falcon-Gaming-PC-Case-inc-2-x-120mm-Red-LED-Front-Fans/CAS2406/) , psu and leads surely there is nothing in it and hence why I initially questioned your 'over-priced' remark

Also factor in some TCB with Ebay purchase and a FREE 3 year warranty (assuming this is worth nothing) then it is proven that this is certainly not 'over-priced' and is within a few pounds exactly the cost of building it yourself with a FREE 3 year warranty thrown in.
The parts selected may not be parts of your choice and I totally understand what you are saying that by spending a few pounds here and there you can tweak the system and get more bang for your buck but at this price point for these parts it cannot be considered as 'over-priced' as this simply is not true is it.

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Deeco

What's wrong with a 960 card?

960 is fine for 1080p. Don't listen to all the geeks who live in 4k world trying to squeeze every frame per second out of their machine as if their life depended on it.

don't forget to install Windows so not to have massive disappointment Christmas morning.

No mention of the power supply or motherboard (key components) I see.

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I think it's a really good deal, I'd just be concerned as to what PSU they will use to power it. It may be worth sending them a message asking for this information.

Salfordgirl1

You need to understand that with a pre-built computer, you'll be paying … You need to understand that with a pre-built computer, you'll be paying £50-150+ more than its worth for labour and profit. You will get ripped off no matter what you do. Sure, you won't have the trouble of building it or finding someone who will, but I don't think that's worth the price difference.If you want a pre-built computer, you're going to pay over the odds for what you're getting, no matter what. It's as simple as that. They over charge because they know people won't do it themselves.To someone who would build the computer themselves, this is average-poor. To someone who won't build it, this may be amazing. I'll keep an eye out, but they're all going to be around this specs and this price, because they're upper-mid range and parts are cheap.If you can pay £40-50 to get a GTX 970 you should. It will last far longer than the 960. You have option 1: Wait 2-3 years (If that) replace card for £200. Option 2: Go with the 970 for extra and replace in 4-5 years.Read lessRead more

weve been through this already and you know that that isn't the case with this deal ..... its equivalent to the price paid for the parts but with the bonus of the 3 year warranty ..... ffs we have already done the breakdown on this , lol

Ccl are a Bradford based company and have been building PCs for many years. They have only recently started selling on eBay. With every pc you get the option to upgrade or downgrade parts. My sister has had 2 pcs from them now and swears by them. No worries about the company.

dan_S

Exactly, Not a good sign really.

If you're going to vote cold or say this isn't a good deal at least provide OP with a better alternative, this is a child's Christmas present here..

Josh, you might be better posting a request here since most people here are just saying "bad deal" - uk.pcpartpicker.com/for…me/
Just post your budget and requirements e.g. running GTA 5 on medium and you don't need a monitor etc..

ollie87 has posted a nice build as well.

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That's a well balanced system Op! My only worry is what PSU are they using? And is that kingston ssd using the carp nand flash chips bringing speed down considerably? Other than that you'd struggle to build cheaper! I managed £555 before delivery on pcpartpicker, so not a bad deal at all

amazon.co.uk/ADM…1-3

This is the kind of thing I have been looking at. Holding out for Black Friday but theres not much margin for PC venders at the value end of the market so not sure what the chances are of seeing any significant saving.

Salfordgirl1

Aye, as I mentioned in my post, "You can build it yourself for less or … Aye, as I mentioned in my post, "You can build it yourself for less or the same". The problem arises when you realise:1) If you look for parts individually on sale you can build it cheaper on your own2) The fact that the company mass orders components for a cheap price, yet you can build it yourself for the sameConsidering these two I don't think it's a good deal, I think it's completely average. It's what you would expect to pay. If it was £475 it would be a good deal, but for that price? I think anyone who is patient and savvy can build a better computer for less. People sell great GPU's on here all the time for £100~ and no one ever buys them, despite the fact they're way below half RRP. That's the most expensive thing about your computer too...factor that in and you can do one for £400-470 that's actually better, although not new items.Read lessRead more

Completely agree with you , in fact the only thing I didn't agree with was your comment about this deal being over-priced which you now determine it to be 'completely average' and the 'price you would expect to pay' , which once again I am total agreement with you
Glad we cleared that one up .... so to summarise this deal is NOT over-priced and is bang on for the price you pay , not an amazing deal agreed but not over-priced either

I've not voted either way to be honest as I bagged a hotter deal the other week off Amazon for a Sedatech PC - core i3 with radeon 250x and 2tb drive with a great Zalman case and windows 10 os for £280 (parts alone were worth around £420!)

McHotpoon

… http://www.amazon.co.uk/ADMI-Graphics-1600MHz-Corsair-SPEC-01/dp/B00SL85AVW/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1448030819&sr=1-3This is the kind of thing I have been looking at. Holding out for Black Friday but theres not much margin for PC venders at the value end of the market so not sure what the chances are of seeing any significant saving.Read lessRead more

For a pre built that isn't half bad for the money.

CCL has been around since I had hair, a very long time ago.

ollie87

Assuming it's not a generic Chinese case and PSU, then yes. Do you know … Assuming it's not a generic Chinese case and PSU, then yes. Do you know what brands they are?If I was building a machine for that cash I'd build this: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/yPbMsYOverclocking the G3258 to at least 3.8Ghz.Read lessRead more

Thats nice but remember a lot of places rape you when it comes to shipping.So the true cost is higher still unless you get the lot from amazon

The RS10 was mentioned earlier in this thread and may be a decent alternative. 50 quid more but has Windows already and it lists all the components so you know what you're getting. Grab a small SSD over black Friday wknd for £25 and job done.

rev6

Huh?

It's been proven over and over again that anything over a i5 is pointless for gaming. Linus Tech Tips have done loads of videos on it. A 960 is a budget card, pairing it with an i7 is the most pointless thing ever since it can't even make an i5 work hard.
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Stalast

The power supply isn't stated, so you know it's going to be absolutely … The power supply isn't stated, so you know it's going to be absolutely rubbish. It'll probably blow up after 2 years.Read lessRead more

Motherboard - hotukdeals.com/vis…701

PSU - hotukdeals.com/vis…701

Thanks to Tiptop33 for finding out from CCL

If the PSU is so bad how can they afford to use and offer a 3 year warranty?

Im going to hold off until next weekend see what goes down but I think I am going with a pre built I might build
one we will see trouble is I work right up until christmas day.

I too am looking for a gaming PC for my son but am slightly worried re eBay guarantee etc what's to say they will honour it? Are they a real company off eBay? And where would onsite be?

kirstybidefordcentre

I too am looking for a gaming PC for my son but am slightly worried re … I too am looking for a gaming PC for my son but am slightly worried re eBay guarantee etc what's to say they will honour it? Are they a real company off eBay? And where would onsite be?Read lessRead more

​Cclcomputers are trustworthy. I'm sure they have a website too.

just a small bit of advice. If you understand PCs then i would buy used - far more bang for your buck and that is what the kids want MORE FPS

Over priced tbh. A 960? Not the best card.

Id bite if it had windows for that price. Seen options like this without OS or but with older i5 4460 for around £499. Ebuyer did have Zoostorm i5 4460, 8gb,1tb,gtx960 and windows for £499 until it disappeared a week ago. Waiting for black friday now hoping to get it all for £499 with OS.

Umm sounds to good to be true . They bound to be cutting corners somewhere

kirstybidefordcentre

I too am looking for a gaming PC for my son but am slightly worried re … I too am looking for a gaming PC for my son but am slightly worried re eBay guarantee etc what's to say they will honour it? Are they a real company off eBay? And where would onsite be?Read lessRead more

Kirsty it's not even that hard to build you're own PC . Pretty much a good spec gaming PC will cost you less than 500 . Without cutting corners ,

McHotpoon

Id bite if it had windows for that price. Seen options like this without … Id bite if it had windows for that price. Seen options like this without OS or but with older i5 4460 for around £499. Ebuyer did have Zoostorm i5 4460, 8gb,1tb,gtx960 and windows for £499 until it disappeared a week ago. Waiting for black friday now hoping to get it all for £499 with OS.Read lessRead more

With ddr 4 ram as well? I haven't seen anything close to this on price with an ssd and a second hard drive as well.

But I'm open to suggestions I just need it by christmas

___Josh____

With ddr 4 ram as well? I haven't seen anything close to this on price … With ddr 4 ram as well? I haven't seen anything close to this on price with an ssd and a second hard drive as well.But I'm open to suggestions I just need it by christmasRead lessRead more

I said older I5 which is ddr 3. 120gb ssd is a similar cost to a 1tb hdd. Cheap 120gb sdd are as little as £23 ex vat from disty in volume. Amazon stonking deal was £26.99 I think for 120gb.

Dont get me wrong, this is a good deal. But its about the right price without OS.

rooney10

By the time you have factored in the cost of motherboard / case / psu and … By the time you have factored in the cost of motherboard / case / psu and leads surely there is nothing in it and hence why I initially questioned your 'over-priced' remark Read lessRead more

Aye, as I mentioned in my post, "You can build it yourself for less or the same".

The problem arises when you realise:
1) If you look for parts individually on sale you can build it cheaper on your own
2) The fact that the company mass orders components for a cheap price, yet you can build it yourself for the same

Considering these two I don't think it's a good deal, I think it's completely average. It's what you would expect to pay. If it was £475 it would be a good deal, but for that price? I think anyone who is patient and savvy can build a better computer for less.

People sell great GPU's on here all the time for £100~ and no one ever buys them, despite the fact they're way below half RRP. That's the most expensive thing about your computer too...factor that in and you can do one for £400-470 that's actually better, although not new items.

Had a look around other venders are around 600 for this spec, ie Skylake.

Not bad really hot from me

McHotpoon

… http://www.amazon.co.uk/ADMI-Graphics-1600MHz-Corsair-SPEC-01/dp/B00SL85AVW/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1448030819&sr=1-3This is the kind of thing I have been looking at. Holding out for Black Friday but theres not much margin for PC venders at the value end of the market so not sure what the chances are of seeing any significant saving.Read lessRead more

Still an average card though and the price is still very high.

3d Mark score for 960 - 10380
3d Mark score for 970 - 15800

In my eyes it's worth paying more for the card and skimping in other places if you can.

Salfordgirl1

Still an average card though and the price is still very high. 3d Mark … Still an average card though and the price is still very high. 3d Mark score for 960 - 103803d Mark score for 970 - 15800In my eyes it's worth paying more for the card and skimping in other places if you can.Read lessRead more

agreed but it would be hard to build a system with a 970 card for £550 , despite skimping on other areas

Salfordgirl1

Aye, as I mentioned in my post, "You can build it yourself for less or … Aye, as I mentioned in my post, "You can build it yourself for less or the same". The problem arises when you realise:1) If you look for parts individually on sale you can build it cheaper on your own2) The fact that the company mass orders components for a cheap price, yet you can build it yourself for the sameConsidering these two I don't think it's a good deal, I think it's completely average. It's what you would expect to pay. If it was £475 it would be a good deal, but for that price? I think anyone who is patient and savvy can build a better computer for less. People sell great GPU's on here all the time for £100~ and no one ever buys them, despite the fact they're way below half RRP. That's the most expensive thing about your computer too...factor that in and you can do one for £400-470 that's actually better, although not new items.Read lessRead more

If this isn't a deal then please point me I. He direction of a deal.

Also as I have been looking a lot around this price point I can tell you confidently that this is not the average price. And when you factor in the warranty, which to be honest I have lot dealt with the company before, it seems like a deal to me.

rooney10

agreed but it would be hard to build a system with a 970 card for £550 , … agreed but it would be hard to build a system with a 970 card for £550 , despite skimping on other areasRead lessRead more

The way I see I could save around £70 with the older cpu etc. But with the same card. Where as I could pay around £40-£50 more for a 970 with cheaper cpu. Now to me the card is fine for my son right now he is 8. But I could upgrade the card if needs be in a year. Now like I said I have never owned a gaming pc before so please correct me if I'm wrong it just makes sense to me.

___Josh____

If this isn't a deal then please point me I. He direction of a deal.Also … If this isn't a deal then please point me I. He direction of a deal.Also as I have been looking a lot around this price point I can tell you confidently that this is not the average price. And when you factor in the warranty, which to be honest I have lot dealt with the company before, it seems like a deal to me.Read lessRead more

You need to understand that with a pre-built computer, you'll be paying £50-150+ more than its worth for labour and profit. You will get ripped off no matter what you do. Sure, you won't have the trouble of building it or finding someone who will, but I don't think that's worth the price difference.

If you want a pre-built computer, you're going to pay over the odds for what you're getting, no matter what. It's as simple as that. They over charge because they know people won't do it themselves.

To someone who would build the computer themselves, this is average-poor. To someone who won't build it, this may be amazing. I'll keep an eye out, but they're all going to be around this specs and this price, because they're upper-mid range and parts are cheap.

If you can pay £40-50 to get a GTX 970 you should. It will last far longer than the 960. You have option 1: Wait 2-3 years (If that) replace card for £200. Option 2: Go with the 970 for extra and replace in 4-5 years.

rooney10

weve been through this already and you know that that isn't the case with … weve been through this already and you know that that isn't the case with this deal ..... its equivalent to the price paid for the parts but with the bonus of the 3 year warranty ..... ffs we have already done the breakdown on this , lolRead lessRead more

Aye, on this one, but not others =P

Salfordgirl1

Still an average card though and the price is still very high. 3d Mark … Still an average card though and the price is still very high. 3d Mark score for 960 - 103803d Mark score for 970 - 15800In my eyes it's worth paying more for the card and skimping in other places if you can.Read lessRead more

Only shortcoming is not 4gb, it will be fine for most 1080p right now. Will look to replace next round of gpu refresh, when pascal giving 4k at more mainstream prices will do the job, and Ill have time to save for a 4k monitor :-)

Salfordgirl1

You need to understand that with a pre-built computer, you'll be paying … You need to understand that with a pre-built computer, you'll be paying £50-150+ more than its worth for labour and profit. You will get ripped off no matter what you do. Sure, you won't have the trouble of building it or finding someone who will, but I don't think that's worth the price difference.If you want a pre-built computer, you're going to pay over the odds for what you're getting, no matter what. It's as simple as that. They over charge because they know people won't do it themselves.To someone who would build the computer themselves, this is average-poor. To someone who won't build it, this may be amazing. I'll keep an eye out, but they're all going to be around this specs and this price, because they're upper-mid range and parts are cheap.If you can pay £40-50 to get a GTX 970 you should. It will last far longer than the 960. You have option 1: Wait 2-3 years (If that) replace card for £200. Option 2: Go with the 970 for extra and replace in 4-5 years.Read lessRead more

Yeah it's trade off I suppose just thought this was pretty well balanced for what I need it for. I understand where your coming from just think your being overly critical as like I said I have been looking at this price point for a while and this is the best price I have seen. I'm still undecided at the moment but I am tempted to go for this. It's the warranty that is swinging it for me.