Toyo Proxes T1-R, 225 45 17, £56.10 each delivered @ Demon Tweeks (£50.49 with code)

Had these on a 1.6 focus years ago. They are ok, but do not use them in snow/ice - they are absolutely dire in sub-zero conditions; theres more traction between 2 near-naked female wrestlers coated in baby oil in a paddling pool.

Personally, when buying tyres I'm more concerned with grip than rolling resistance (rating F). If you want harder tyres, then that's fine, but (as I say, personally) longevity is not a factor when I assess tyres as being top or not.

Wet grip (C, which isn't fantastic) is a consideration, and as you will see from my previous post I do put importance on that and that's why RS3 are an equally good shout for me.

These are decent performance tyres for higher powered cars, designed for spirited driving. They are not necessarily right for a low power car driven carefully, where something with less grip and more longevity might be more appropriate.

They are well reputed (you only need to read the reviews on any site you care to find), and that combined with personal experience of the tyres, is why I call them "top tyres". Hopefully that is not too subjective an assertion to be included in the description, but I'm fine with it if a mod wants to edit it out.

Either way, they are certainly a bargain, at this price, if you already know what you're looking at and already know what you want.

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How can they be top tyres when the ratings are F and C?

wadz03

What are these like compared to uniroyal rains sport?

If you go off the EU labelling results then the uniroyals have a better rating.

I have uniroyals on both my cars and find them perfect, living in the north the roads are usually wet/damp so good wet grip won it for us.

Thanks OP

Voucher code of NEWR17 takes off an extra 10% too.

Mine came off at the last page (checkout) prior to confirming paying method - the total didn't change till then despite pressing the apply button.
But it works...two 225/45/17 94w came to a few pence over £100.

wadz03

What are these like compared to uniroyal rains sport?

Ha, very apt question- I have Rainsport 3 on both my cars and love them. Similar price, too. But I've had T1-R in the past and been very impressed. I'd say in the dry the Proxes edge it, in the wet the RS3 do. The Proxes probably last a little better IME.

You cannot go wrong with either tyre though to be fair (although different tyres perform differently on different cars, so you might want to check out make/model specific forums before deciding).

Honestly, if I had to buy 4 tyres tomorrow, I don't know which I'd choose between these or RS3.
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£238 for the size i need
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SilverBandit

Need new summer tyres for my wife's 123dFront tyres - £58.30 - … Need new summer tyres for my wife's 123dFront tyres - £58.30 - bargain!Rear tyres - £183.55.... hmmm.. maybe not :(Think I'll be going with the RS3 from Asda Tyres (£402 inc fitting for all four)Read lessRead more

Have you checked whether a slightly different size is (a) suitable for your vehicle, and (b) also much cheaper?

Looks like you're all good on 225 45 17 all round (assuming you don't have 18s that is) babybmw.net/for…925

Why not just go 225 40 18 on the rear? The difference in rolling radius is less than half a cm (so the difference between new and used tyres).

Have tried RE050s before (not runflat, and not 18s, so a bit more compliant) and really liked them (particularly in the wet), £££ though.

wadz03

What are these like compared to uniroyal rains sport?

Superior in the dry, no where near as good in the wet. Also their sidewalls aren't any where near as soft, which may give better response during turn-in.

My experience of these is they are a very soft compound, which is great in the summer as they're super sticky. Come winter or wet weather they're below average at best. You'll also burn through them at a fair rate too, with them being so soft.
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Jules_HT

Personally, when buying tyres I'm more concerned with grip than rolling … Personally, when buying tyres I'm more concerned with grip than rolling resistance (rating F). If you want harder tyres, then that's fine, but (as I say, personally) longevity is not a factor when I assess tyres as being top or not. Wet grip (C, which isn't fantastic) is a consideration, and as you will see from my previous post I do put importance on that and that's why RS3 are an equally good shout for me.These are decent performance tyres for higher powered cars, designed for spirited driving. They are not necessarily right for a low power car driven carefully, where something with less grip and more longevity might be more appropriate.They are well reputed (you only need to read the reviews on any site you care to find), and that combined with personal experience of the tyres, is why I call them "top tyres". Hopefully that is not too subjective an assertion to be included in the description, but I'm fine with it if a mod wants to edit it out.Either way, they are certainly a bargain, at this price, if you already know what you're looking at and already know what you want.Read lessRead more

cool story

fonzie2107

​Having used both I prefer rain sports. The toyos are slightly better in t … ​Having used both I prefer rain sports. The toyos are slightly better in the dry, but not by much.The rain sports also seemed softer and more comfortable to me.Read lessRead more

The Toyo Proxes used to be a popular choice but have been surpassed by newer tyres.

The Rainsports are superior imo, although have soft sidewalls.

I think the 225's were under £60 from ears or camskills.

cheeky_chops

dont get confused with toyo t1s tyres. These are one step down from … dont get confused with toyo t1s tyres. These are one step down from r888's so unless you track your car occasionally or only use it in the summer, they aren't suitable as a daily year round tyre. Good price though!Read lessRead more

They're more than 1 step down from the R888. They don't compare at all. R1R would be the next step from R888 if you look at it that way.

vtec

cool story

Was a direct reply to the post 2 before mine. Thanks for your valuable contribution though, I'm sure everyone appreciates the input.

cheeky_chops

the pic above of a different tyre not the t1r!

Fair play, I had just used the library pic from the section in which the tyre can be found on Demon Tweeks. Didn't mean to mislead. Have replaced with a pic of the actual tyre, cheers.

Standard price for not great tyre really... few quid more and you get Goodyear F1

Surprised Demon tweets is still going,

Back in the Max Power days of the mid 90's (where every weekend there would be a cruise on somewhere) Demon Tweeks were always quite expensive.

Still,nice to see they have stood the test of time.

weswart

How can they be top tyres when the ratings are F and C?

Because of all the other things like handling, dry weather grip and tyre wear.
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What are these like compared to uniroyal rains sport?

225/40/18 £58.30 each without scathel's code " blOdy bargain " HOT HOT Deal thanx Op

they are around the same price at most places for what i can see
225/45/17 £56 my tyres
225/40/18 £59 mytyres

about average price for these - decent tyre

I wouldnt get uniroyals again as the last set lasted just 7K miles

taahmed786

£238 for the size i need

Ouch. Monster truck?

£123.48 for my size..Ill stick with my Nokian zlines.

118luke

Had these on a 1.6 focus years ago. They are ok, but do not use them in … Had these on a 1.6 focus years ago. They are ok, but do not use them in snow/ice - they are absolutely dire in sub-zero conditions; theres more traction between 2 near-naked female wrestlers coated in baby oil in a paddling pool.Read lessRead more

​This made me lol

118luke

Had these on a 1.6 focus years ago. They are ok, but do not use them in … Had these on a 1.6 focus years ago. They are ok, but do not use them in snow/ice - they are absolutely dire in sub-zero conditions; theres more traction between 2 near-naked female wrestlers coated in baby oil in a paddling pool.Read lessRead more

If you're fitting high performance summer tyres and expecting them to do anything in winter, you're doing it wrong. If you are fitting these then you probably want a second set of wheels with some winter tyres on for November-March.

these tyres are good but not enough for hard driving as the edges lose rubber

cheaper at mytyres. This isn't a deal

281.15 for mine

Fit these to a decent performance car and they are good, had them on my old Focus ST and dry grip was excellent, wet grip was good enough for the conditions. Only lasted 5k miles on my ST though, although the crap Ford alignment and dodgy oil filled wishbone rubbers were more the reason for that!!

Need new summer tyres for my wife's 123d
Front tyres - £58.30 - bargain!
Rear tyres - £183.55.... hmmm.. maybe not
Think I'll be going with the RS3 from Asda Tyres (£402 inc fitting for all four)

£216.77 for 4 on eBay Demon Tweeks (£54.19 each).

Fine in the dry, wet weather grip not so good from experience.

Jules_HT

Have you checked whether a slightly different size is (a) suitable for … Have you checked whether a slightly different size is (a) suitable for your vehicle, and (b) also much cheaper?Looks like you're all good on 225 45 17 all round (assuming you don't have 18s that is)Read lessRead more

Thanks, the winter wheels are 17" and 205/50R17 all round (Avon Ice Touring.) The summer tyres are 18"s - 215/40R18 front - expensive, so use 225/40R18 instead - and 245/35R18 on the rear. Currently on Bridgestone Potenza runflats which are horrible (far too stiff.)

Must be another one of these niche HUKD threads, I just ask for the cheapest tyre each time :-)

Stubbarama

Must be another one of these niche HUKD threads, I just ask for the … Must be another one of these niche HUKD threads, I just ask for the cheapest tyre each time :-)Read lessRead more

Depends what you drive I guess, if you are putting 500nm through the rear tyres you need them to be the best you can. I only buy Michelin these days, but Good Year etc are all just as good.

£132 per tyre for me but if I select 45 instead of 50% profile then the price drops to £58.

The problem is that I just need fronts and I have 50s on the rear ....... it's ok to mix but I'd rather not.

stockdam

£132 per tyre for me but if I select 45 instead of 50% profile then the … £132 per tyre for me but if I select 45 instead of 50% profile then the price drops to £58.The problem is that I just need fronts and I have 50s on the rear ....... it's ok to mix but I'd rather not.Read lessRead more

yes (the gap between arch and tyre will increase slightly and the 50s are slightly more comfortable)

SilverBandit

Need new summer tyres for my wife's 123dFront tyres - £58.30 - … Need new summer tyres for my wife's 123dFront tyres - £58.30 - bargain!Rear tyres - £183.55.... hmmm.. maybe not :(Think I'll be going with the RS3 from Asda Tyres (£402 inc fitting for all four)Read lessRead more

Hopefully BMW will sack their designer who came up with the concept of putting different size tyres on the rears.No doubt. Perhaps he or she is from the same family who thought a get you home kit instead of a spare wheel would be a good idea.