Lenovo B50 Laptop - Intel Celeron 2815 Dual Core 1.86Ghz - 4GB RAM - 320GB HDD - 15.6" - Windows 8.1 @ ebuyer - £199.98 (Potentially £169 after cashback via Lenovo - scheme updated until the end of Sept)

Elevation

4gb and just 320gb hard disk - even discounting the poor CPU this is not … 4gb and just 320gb hard disk - even discounting the poor CPU this is not worth it. As for the old chestnut coming soon in the comments about "whack a bigger hard disk in and swap out the CPU and it's a real bargain" - well then you'll be spending the extra on those so why not just buy a better laptop in the first place? (_;) Incoming "great as a backup PC"...well firstly it isn't a PC it's a laptop, secondly you'll be wanting a newer one after a year or so at this level of spec.Read lessRead more

I disagree with this opinion. I sell laptops with spec like this where I work and they work very well for the average user. It's £169 and it will do web browsing, facebook etc and it won't be slow like a netbook. These prices are actually excellent now, yes you can buy an i3, i5,i7 most people won't even tax an i3 CPU. If you want a cheap laptop that works then buy this because it does work for the average user.

I've personally sold over 3,000 laptops. This is fine for email and web browsing, runs Libre Office just fine if you want a free Office application. Windows 8.1 boots up nice and quick. If you want pain then get a really cheap AMD based laptop or a netbook then you'll see what slow means.

Plenty of people have bought i5, i7 laptops from me for £500 or so and I've asked what do you need it for and they just say general use, they just want the best because they can afford it, can they use the power of the laptop, not a chance in hell, complete waste of money for them, but that's their choice.
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Cashback deal available with this product until 31st Aug 2014

Claim £30 cash back from Lenovo when you buy this laptop.
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It's written twice here:

lenovo-offers.com/uk/…ing

Second entry it says until August 31st.

Surely a great deal for £169?

crap cpu= waste of money

4gb and just 320gb hard disk - even discounting the poor CPU this is not worth it. As for the old chestnut coming soon in the comments about "whack a bigger hard disk in and swap out the CPU and it's a real bargain" - well then you'll be spending the extra on those so why not just buy a better laptop in the first place? (_;) Incoming "great as a backup PC"...well firstly it isn't a PC it's a laptop, secondly you'll be wanting a newer one after a year or so at this level of spec.

sancheez

Well duh.Of course the HDD was the bottleneck! You would have to be … Well duh.Of course the HDD was the bottleneck! You would have to be running a seriously prehistoric laptop for it not to be.But my old netbook benchmarked a similar score to this (in the 900's somewhere) and even with 3gb of RAM, SSD and running Lubuntu (plus it had dedicated NVidia GFX) it was still pretty sluggish to use. Given the very similar spec, I can't see this being much better. My folks would probably put up with it, but most folk who've made much use of any sort of PC will likely find it sluggish. Even with an SSD replacing the HDD.Read lessRead more

If you can't conduct a conversation properly "well duh" without resorting to being childish then this chat is over.

fishmaster

It's easy, you just put the old HDD in a USB caddy, then when the … It's easy, you just put the old HDD in a USB caddy, then when the partition letters appear in Computer in Windows, you find the partition with Windows directory on it, then go the Users folders (Vista/7/8 ) or Documents and Settings (XP) then select your user account and it will ask to take permission of that folder, then you can access the data.Read lessRead more

Thanks much appreciated

Looks like it's been extended
techradar.com/new…804

Very nice deal, heat added

I have bought one of these because of the price however I don't know if it's faulty or if the trackpad is just so unresponsive but I would probably spend a little more money if I was buying again...

got to be worth it.

heat from me even though i just bought the dell

InTheKnow444

heat from me even though i just bought the dell

dell ? from here ?

fishmaster

I disagree with this opinion. I sell laptops with spec like this where I … I disagree with this opinion. I sell laptops with spec like this where I work and they work very well for the average user. It's £169 and it will do web browsing, facebook etc and it won't be slow like a netbook. These prices are actually excellent now, yes you can buy an i3, i5,i7 most people won't even tax an i3 CPU. If you want a cheap laptop that works then buy this because it does work for the average user.I've personally sold over 3,000 laptops. This is fine for email and web browsing, runs Libre Office just fine if you want a free Office application. Windows 8.1 boots up nice and quick. If you want pain then get a really cheap AMD based laptop or a netbook then you'll see what slow means.Plenty of people have bought i5, i7 laptops from me for £500 or so and I've asked what do you need it for and they just say general use, they just want the best because they can afford it, can they use the power of the laptop, not a chance in hell, complete waste of money for them, but that's their choice.Read lessRead more

Could you recommend me a laptop which has newest processor i3? looking for something more updated . Any brands will do, and a slightly good screen would be great. Thanks

fishmaster

I disagree with this opinion.

Don't worry - the second I clicked to submit I already knew you would. ^_^ I'd say the average person these days wouldn't even bother buying a laptop to use Facebook they'd just do it on their phone. I think you'd be surprised at just what grunt the most seemingly basic games actually need. I'm not talking about Titanfall and such I'm talking about point and click adventure games - where my i3 chugged my i5 does not (this is on my laptop - my PC handles all the serious games). So therefore if after a little while of owning this "just for Facebook" they then wanted to try out a game or 3 even on a lower level they'll have realised what a mistake they've made.

Fishmaster: This is a Bay Trail processor laptop so it is effectively a netbook, they're good for tablets, kind of, but it would not make for a fast laptop - it might be okay for browsing and watching videos etc but I expect it will struggle a bit with anything more taxing.
Here's a basic comparison of speed with a last generation celeron: cpubenchmark.net/com…php?cmp[]=2158&cmp[]=1991

My old crap hp dv6 is kapunk but hd is perfect would i be able to put my hd in a caddy and boot this laptop from my hd using win 7

I've just had one delivered at the weekend only to find that the laptop does not work

From the info I can gain, without taking the laptop apart, it appears the motherboard is shot

Laptop is being collected after a few phones calls for a full refund

IMO the quality & feel of the laptop matches the price, however I cant vouch for how it runs as mines never worked

You do get what you pay for

& no I wasnt expecting a Macbook for £170, but the quality & feel of my 7 year old laptop is 100% better
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Voodle

Fishmaster: This is a Bay Trail processor laptop so it is effectively a … Fishmaster: This is a Bay Trail processor laptop so it is effectively a netbook, they're good for tablets, kind of, but it would not make for a fast laptop - it might be okay for browsing and watching videos etc but I expect it will struggle a bit with anything more taxing.Here's a basic comparison of speed with a last generation celeron: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2158&cmp[]=1991Read lessRead more

I know it's a Baytrail laptop, the other Celerons 1007U etc are based on Ivybridge/Haswell.

Video acceleration doesn't work properly in Chrome, but it works in other browsers.


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Bristle Hound

I've just had one delivered at the weekend only to find that the laptop … I've just had one delivered at the weekend only to find that the laptop does not workFrom the info I can gain, without taking the laptop apart, it appears the motherboard is shotLaptop is being collected after a few phones calls for a full refundIMO the quality & feel of the laptop matches the price, however I cant vouch for how it runs as mines never worked :(You do get what you pay for& no I wasnt expecting a Macbook for £170, but the quality & feel of my 7 year old laptop is 100% better Read lessRead more

clearly you didn't get what you paid for?

Hmmm.

I paid the same price for an Asus X401a over a year ago. CPU in that is about double the power of the one in this. It took putting an SSD in mine to make it (what I regard as) nice to use. (Admittedly, I did get a very good deal on it at £200 - minus the SSD which came out of my old Netbook)

Suspect even for basic use, this would probably feel pretty sluggish.

My OH has a cheapo Lenovo laptop (not this one - hers is an i3 model. Cost around £300) and it feels just as cheaply made as my Asus. Trackpad on both is pretty horrible. Keyboard on mine is worse than hers but neither are great.

Not voting on this one.

Elevation

Don't worry - the second I clicked to submit I already knew you would. … Don't worry - the second I clicked to submit I already knew you would. ^_^ I'd say the average person these days wouldn't even bother buying a laptop to use Facebook they'd just do it on their phone. I think you'd be surprised at just what grunt the most seemingly basic games actually need. I'm not talking about Titanfall and such I'm talking about point and click adventure games - where my i3 chugged my i5 does not (this is on my laptop - my PC handles all the serious games). So therefore if after a little while of owning this "just for Facebook" they then wanted to try out a game or 3 even on a lower level they'll have realised what a mistake they've made.Read lessRead more

Laptops are not great for gaming, I'm not sure that people would be buying it for point and click adventure games, it can certainly run Java/Flash based games. This laptop is for general usage where it works perfectly well.

If you need an i3 to run your software then you don't have average needs. Like I said I sell them and I get feedback from customers and we sell what they need, and advise them if the laptop is more powerful than they require.

Also I won't disagree with anyone despite the history I've had with them if I think their opinion is right. I've sold thousands of laptops, I like to think I have some idea the requirements of an average customer.
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Guys, for those who intended to upgrade the processor at later stage, this Celeron processor is soldered on the motherboard.

Source:
ark.intel.com/pro…GHz

Sockets Supported: FCBGA1170

sancheez

Hmmm.I paid the same price for an Asus X401a over a year ago. CPU in that … Hmmm.I paid the same price for an Asus X401a over a year ago. CPU in that is about double the power of the one in this. It took putting an SSD in mine to make it (what I regard as) nice to use. (Admittedly, I did get a very good deal on it at £200 - minus the SSD which came out of my old Netbook)Suspect even for basic use, this would probably feel pretty sluggish.My OH has a cheapo Lenovo laptop (not this one - hers is an i3 model. Cost around £300) and it feels just as cheaply made as my Asus. Trackpad on both is pretty horrible. Keyboard on mine is worse than hers but neither are great.Not voting on this one.Read lessRead more

Yes because the CPU was not the problem but the HDD. I've got an i7 Haswell laptop with a HDD (I'm not changing it because I'm selling it), it gets totally owned by my Q6600 desktop with SATA 2 and an SSD. The bottleneck is the HDD not the CPU in your case.

I'd like to see opinions from people who've actually used this laptop spec rather than guessing.

£169 laptop, runs much better than a netbook. It's a decent price for what it is. All these laptops are cheaply build with a cheap chassis, they have to cut corners to get the price down.
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stone3t

Guys, for those who intended to upgrade the processor at later stage, … Guys, for those who intended to upgrade the processor at later stage, this Celeron processor is soldered on the motherboard.Source:http://ark.intel.com/products/79051/Intel-Celeron-Processor-N2815-1M-Cache-up-to-2_13-GHzSockets Supported: FCBGA1170Read lessRead more

Virtually no one would upgrade the CPU and many such as modern Toshibas are BIOS crippled to stop you upgrading anyway, like C850 it will shut itself off every 30 minutes if you upgrade the CPU.

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fishmaster

Yes because the CPU was not the problem but the HDD. I've got an i7 … Yes because the CPU was not the problem but the HDD. I've got an i7 Haswell laptop with a HDD (I'm not changing it because I'm selling it), it gets totally owned by my Q6600 desktop with SATA 2 and an SSD. The bottleneck is the HDD not the CPU in your case.I'd like to see opinions from people who've actually used this laptop spec rather than guessing.Read lessRead more

Well duh.

Of course the HDD was the bottleneck! You would have to be running a seriously prehistoric laptop for it not to be.

But my old netbook benchmarked a similar score to this (in the 900's somewhere) and even with 3gb of RAM, SSD and running Lubuntu (plus it had dedicated NVidia GFX) it was still pretty sluggish to use. Given the very similar spec, I can't see this being much better. My folks would probably put up with it, but most folk who've made much use of any sort of PC will likely find it sluggish. Even with an SSD replacing the HDD.

annagh11

My old crap hp dv6 is kapunk but hd is perfect would i be able to put my … My old crap hp dv6 is kapunk but hd is perfect would i be able to put my hd in a caddy and boot this laptop from my hd using win 7Read lessRead more

I also thought about using this to replace my old crap backup laptop HP DV6 with AMD X2 Dual-Core Mobile RM-75 processor, then I had look at PassMark CPU Benchmark, and guess what? This shinny new Intel Celeron N2815 is even slower compared to the couple of years old AMD Turion X2!!!

stone3t

I also thought about using this to replace my old crap backup laptop HP … I also thought about using this to replace my old crap backup laptop HP DV6 with AMD X2 Dual-Core Mobile RM-75 processor, then I had look at PassMark CPU Benchmark, and guess what? This shinny new Intel Celeron N2815 is even slower compared to the couple of years old AMD Turion X2!!!Read lessRead more

It could be no worse then the HP DV6

stone3t

I also thought about using this to replace my old crap backup laptop HP … I also thought about using this to replace my old crap backup laptop HP DV6 with AMD X2 Dual-Core Mobile RM-75 processor, then I had look at PassMark CPU Benchmark, and guess what? This shinny new Intel Celeron N2815 is even slower compared to the couple of years old AMD Turion X2!!!Read lessRead more

It is, but it's all relative I bet you paid around £500-£600 for that laptop, if you paid that now the laptop would be way overspec for your needs, also it probably had Vista on it, this laptop is running Win 8.1 it will run fine. You couldn't pay £169 for any decent laptop when you purchased your HP DV6.

fishmaster

It is, but it's all relative I bet you paid around £500-£600 for that l … It is, but it's all relative I bet you paid around £500-£600 for that laptop, if you paid that now the laptop would be way overspec for your needs, also it probably had Vista on it, this laptop is running Win 8.1 it will run fine. You couldn't pay £169 for any decent laptop when you purchased your HP DV6.Read lessRead more

Yeah your right i did pay big money for it but only about 2 yrs ago and it had win 7
but going back to my orginal question can i boot to windows 7 on this laptop by connecting my old hd from the HP to it i.e. that is just plug in the old hd and boot from that

annagh11

Yeah your right i did pay big money for it but only about 2 yrs ago and … Yeah your right i did pay big money for it but only about 2 yrs ago and it had win 7but going back to my orginal question can i boot to windows 7 on this laptop by connecting my old hd from the HP to it i.e. that is just plug in the old hd and boot from thatRead lessRead more

No is the simple answer.

fishmaster

No is the simple answer.

so that means i have to buy a cheap HP DV6

annagh11

so that means i have to buy a cheap HP DV6

Why?

Just stick the old HDD in a cheap USB caddy, take permissions of the user account where the data is and then you have access to all your data.

fishmaster

Why?Just stick the old HDD in a cheap USB caddy, take permissions of the … Why?Just stick the old HDD in a cheap USB caddy, take permissions of the user account where the data is and then you have access to all your data.Read lessRead more

didnt realise i could do this in any computer thought i had to boot it to the old hdd which is win 7

So the comments are slagging this and yet it's getting hot.....I understand the comments section allows us to show off our knowledge but you can't say 'if you spent', the point is the price FFlipsS.


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Hot deal!!

annagh11

didnt realise i could do this in any computer thought i had to boot it to … didnt realise i could do this in any computer thought i had to boot it to the old hdd which is win 7Read lessRead more

It's easy, you just put the old HDD in a USB caddy, then when the partition letters appear in Computer in Windows, you find the partition with Windows directory on it, then go the Users folders (Vista/7/8 ) or Documents and Settings (XP) then select your user account and it will ask to take permission of that folder, then you can access the data.
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it's a crappy processor for two reasons: it's cheap and it's low power, giving your wallet and battery life more longevity. Intel don't make them just to be crappy. think about it before posting stupid comments..

torquatus

it's a crappy processor for two reasons: it's cheap and it's low power, … it's a crappy processor for two reasons: it's cheap and it's low power, giving your wallet and battery life more longevity. Intel don't make them just to be crappy. think about it before posting stupid comments..Read lessRead more

It should give decent battery life as well.

If you don't care about battery life then change the power options to high performance.

fishmaster

It should give decent battery life as well.

that is the point I am making..